Rimmer Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 New Pattaya police chief tells officers to stop taking bribes PATTAYA:--New Pattaya police chief, Pol. Col. Sukthat Pumpunmuang told officers to stop taking bribes and focus on snatching thefts and tourist druggings to clean up the city’s image. In a meeting with officers at Pattaya City Hall Jan. 22, the new superintendent - the brother of national police chief Gen. Somyos Pumpunmuang - said snatchings of jewelry and handbags occur 30-50 times a month in Pattaya with the perpetrators getting young, now often in the 15-16 age range. The second most-reported crime is the drugging and robbery of tourists, usually by transvestites and female prostitutes on Pattaya Beach, he said. Sukthat said if those two types of crimes could be controlled, the city’s crime problem would greatly be diminished. - See more at: http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/new-pattaya-police-chief-tells-officers-to-stop-taking-bribes-44586#sthash.byQTd44k.dpuf -- Pattaya Mail 2015-01-30 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 No good, chief, just telling them. Catch some of them taking bribes, punish them and then what you say will be heard by the others. Unfortunately, bribery and corruption has been flourishing for many years in the RTP. Fortunately, the new government is here to change things, and they will. Give them time....... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrWorldwide Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 No good, chief, just telling them. Catch some of them taking bribes, punish them and then what you say will be heard by the others. Unfortunately, bribery and corruption has been flourishing for many years in the RTP. Fortunately, the new government is here to change things, and they will. Give them time....... how do you get promoted in the rtp ? not exactly the kind of role model junior cops need, whatever his official record. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 QUOTE: "PATTAYA:--New Pattaya police chief, Pol. Col. Sukthat Pumpunmuang told officers to stop taking bribes and focus on snatching thefts and tourist druggings to clean up the citys image." A new job focus, colonel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldsailor35 Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 No good, chief, just telling them. Catch some of them taking bribes, punish them and then what you say will be heard by the others. Unfortunately, bribery and corruption has been flourishing for many years in the RTP. Fortunately, the new government is here to change things, and they will. Give them time....... Pay them a decent wage and then this would'nt be happening. How is a young policeman expected to live on Bht8000 per month and no police housing. The whole situation is ludicrous to say the least. Pay them a decent wage and they will value their jobs, the riff raff will quickly fall by the wayside and Thailand might just get a decent police force. 56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post inzman Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Speaking of young, how did a guy that young get to his position. Lucky to have the brother he has. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Well, that is hereby solved then. NOT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 No good, chief, just telling them. Catch some of them taking bribes, punish them and then what you say will be heard by the others. Unfortunately, bribery and corruption has been flourishing for many years in the RTP. Fortunately, the new government is here to change things, and they will. Give them time....... Pay them a decent wage and then this would'nt be happening. How is a young policeman expected to live on Bht8000 per month and no police housing. The whole situation is ludicrous to say the least. Pay them a decent wage and they will value their jobs, the riff raff will quickly fall by the wayside and Thailand might just get a decent police force. A lot of the most crooked people around are rich. Are you saying that paying more would turn a crook into an honest person? Do stings and throw their butts in jail until they are either all gone or wise up. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alocacoc Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Why Pattaya gets every few months a new police chief? Not really trustworthy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petercool Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Some slur posts, some troll posts and one using profanity removed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 He also warned officers - particularly traffic cops - to stop taking bribes. With cameras in every phone and social media so prevalent there are “eyes and ears” everywhere, he said. Officers caught taking bribes would damage the image of Pattaya.He made special mention of traffic police and said there have been many complaints about the large number of checkpoints, which people see as bribe-taking centers. He said officers must justify the need for checkpoints and clarify if they are to prevent crime or control traffic.The meeting wrapped with a greeting by Pattaya Mayor Itthiphol Kunplome, who assured officers that city hall had no intention of taking over some of the jurisdiction of police and said the city wants to support the police department either through food, drinks or allowances.- See more at: http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/new-pattaya-police-chief-tells-officers-to-stop-taking-bribes-44586#.dpuf So, don't do it because it is wrong/illegal, but because you will get caught on camera, and that will damage our reputation. And then the Mayor offers free drinks, food and allowances. Don't know what to say, really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaiyapoon Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Last 'new' guy said the same.Little or no change at all. They would need to bring in a whole new team. One or two new guys at the top will get nothing done. Just making the right noises. Expect a few clamp downs to get in the headlines then nothing much till the next new guy comes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casindonet Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Bribes?? No never in thailand. Mafia?? No none in thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I believe the guy, he probably means it , even if he knows it will never happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepperMe Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 No good, chief, just telling them. Catch some of them taking bribes, punish them and then what you say will be heard by the others. Unfortunately, bribery and corruption has been flourishing for many years in the RTP. Fortunately, the new government is here to change things, and they will. Give them time....... Not much point. All he can do is ask nicely and hope they will conform which they will not. The problem is that anyone in this country who seriously attempts to stop any corruption in the police will find themselves dead within a month...... Accident or suicide of course, and this goes right up to the top. That is what stops the crack downs. It is why corruption will remain part of Thailand daily life, and will never be stopped. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pungdo Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Back home in Australia where I come from, the state of Queensland more precisely, they had a massive inquiry into the Police force and corruption 25 years ago, that went on for quite a while, the net result of it all was that the Police Minister, the Police Commissioner and a few other high ranking coppers all went to jail for their efforts.Another major point made by the inquiry was that they believed the police were underpaid and it fostered a corrupt force, ie: pay them well and then they will have no reason or excuse to be corrupt.The same applies here, they pay their own way through the police college, they buy their own uniforms and weapons, although they do get a gun allowance, the higher the rank the higher the allowance. They ride their own motor bikes around and presumably buy their own fuel and as previously mentioned get paid a pittance.Now if that is not a scenario for the breeding of corruption, then I don't know what is, pay them to go to college, supply their uniforms and pay them a decent wage, then they have no excuse to be corrupt, jail the ones who won't play the game and it will eventually sort itself out.I was told by a volunteer copper I used to know a good while back that, unlike back home in the west, the fines dished out don't go into consolidated revenue, it goes into a pot and is divided up at the station by rank at the end of each month, at the time he told me that (7 or 8 years ago), he said watch them, they will be out in force the last 2 weeks of each month, hitting up all and sundry for anything they can think of, these days it seems to be every week, times must be tough.It will never stop until they address these issues. Edited January 30, 2015 by Pungdo 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKdreaming Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 good start , just that he used the words is something , Accepting that you are a "bribe aholic" is the first step to recovery....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 A few more posts removed mainly for out of place poor humour and adding nothing to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtof2 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 New Pattaya police chief, Pol. Col. Sukthat Pumpunmuang told officers to stop taking bribes So, he confess that they are taking bribes. Amazing ! In most countries, admitting this would make a huge scandal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ALLSEEINGEYE Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 The RTP system is broken at it's core. The police have to pay for their positions (as much as $1 million USD for police chief of a large and lucrative city) then get paid a disgustingly low salary. The system is and always has been set up to be corrupt. Until the system itself is reformed there is zero chance of the corruptions stopping. This is nothing but lip service and a waste of breath. Change the system then actually hold people accountable for their actions. Otherwise just shut up and carry on as usual. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) New Pattaya police chief tells officers to stop taking bribes Sounds good, but I wonder if this is going to happen or will they just pretend to follow his order but carry on as before? or will he fall down from a high building? I wish him success and good luck and btw it is not only about taking bribes but also about pressuring for bribes Edited January 30, 2015 by sweatalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavezzi Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Why Pattaya gets every few months a new police chief? Not really trustworthy. huh? Do you know why banks change directors often? They do for the same reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mush78 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I respect what he said , at least must know many police involve with women who working in pattaya and asking huge money from foreigners .. Many women source of income from blackmailing foreigners .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 He will only make his mark if he stamps out the jet-ski mafia, which operates right out of his new station 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBrainer Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 He is correct in saying that controlling those two types of crime will go a long way to improving Pattaya's international image. I wish him all the best in his effort. I hope that he finds time to have a look at all of those nasty Eastern Block hookers that have recently migrated to 2nd Road between Pattaya Tai, and where the road splits to got to Jom Tien or Pratumnak hill. They have been multiplying lately, and it only takes a short stroll through this section of road, to find them everywhere, lurking in the shadows. Not sure who they are paying to be left alone, but they definitely do not help the cities reputation, and should be cleared out ASAP. I suppose that it is partly because of the suppression of these activities on Beach Road, that has caused some go them to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gchurch259 Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 I do not know this Gentleman personally, or any other Policeman for that matter, and I doubt any of you know him either. So, it is amazing the garbage that comes across this posting. Yes, he had to remind them again about bribes, first lesson in management is tell, then tell them what you just told them, sometimes it sinks in. At least he is starting to straighten out the problems. His experience and past is none of my business as I did not promote him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastguy Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 BIB to stop taking bribes & do real police work.... Ohhh no sir !! not in his life time or anyone else's that might follow with another broom in his footsteps! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichinThailand Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 No good, chief, just telling them. Catch some of them taking bribes, punish them and then what you say will be heard by the others. Unfortunately, bribery and corruption has been flourishing for many years in the RTP. Fortunately, the new government is here to change things, and they will. Give them time....... Do you ever wake up from these dreams?? You will discover nightmares!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 The RTP system is broken at it's core. The police have to pay for their positions (as much as $1 million USD for police chief of a large and lucrative city) then get paid a disgustingly low salary. The system is and always has been set up to be corrupt. Until the system itself is reformed there is zero chance of the corruptions stopping. This is nothing but lip service and a waste of breath. Change the system then actually hold people accountable for their actions. Otherwise just shut up and carry on as usual. There are actually plans underway for a major change in the RTP. Public meetings start soon and many suggestions have been discussed publicly recently. Will it happen? Will these changes work? Who knows, but it's being discussed at the highest levels. All we can do is keep our fingers crossed. From what I've heard, this new chief of police is pretty good. He deserves some time to see if he can sort things out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 A reminder to some of one of the rules people agree to when signing up for ThaiVisa membership ... 6) You will not post comments that could be reasonably construed as defamation or libel. Defamation is the issuance of a statement about another person or business which causes that person to suffer harm. It does not have to be false to be defamatory. Libel is when the defamatory statement is published either in a drawing, painting, cinematography, film, picture or letters made visible by any means, or any other recording instruments, recording picture or letters, or by broadcasting or spreading picture, or by propagation by any other means. Defamation is both a civil and criminal charge in Thailand. *(You could find yourself in a lot of trouble given the laws in Thailand if a defamatory post is allowed to stand. Thai Visa could be ordered by a court order to release your ISP detail and you could be the one facing Jail Time or a very heavy fine.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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