kannot Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! and paying for a night guard to watch the lights would be out of the question even when the consequences are well known. perhaps they should be charged with meditated murder right after you determine how much complicity there is with the local body snatchers/hospitals/etc How can the night guard do this when hell be asleep?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Unfortunately a lot of accidents in hilly areas are caused by the drivers not knowing to use the gears to slow down, and instead just use the brakes, so when the really need them ,on a bend, they are too hot resulting in brake fade,and they find too late they cannot stop,I have even heard some drivers just knock the gear in neutral and freewheel down !, who needs brakes. regards worgeordie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnx355 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! This is exactly what I was thinking ! If there is nobody on site , warning lights, wiring etc...disappears quickly......The police forces in Thaïland do not patrol high ways . Mostly road block, speed trap and VIP escort, And naturally responding to some accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIPinthailand Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 for a Thai, faster you go safer you are and I can prove they are totally right : take 2 hard cooked eggs, smash them, you will see that the fastest egg remains intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! The have the option of hiring someone to watch them at night. They can also,put surveillance cameras to watch the site. Neither are excessively expensive. Judgements against the construction companies may convince them that there are alternatives of having claimed to being this and that, which unfortunately is helping to cause these horrendous accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brling Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Horrible news of course, but with more then 25.000 people killed in Thai traffic every year, I start to wonder why this is news, I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand..Nothing will change. Sad days for all the people involved. "I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand." As you could in any other country. If you must be a Thai apologist, then there are other threads you could chime in and defend the Thais, but please not this thread. Even the Thais are sick and tired of the road accidents in their own country. Wise up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tocquinio Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Sad story and seemingly avoidable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I know I have come close to hitting these barriers several times. For some reason they do roadwork in unlit areas that is pretty dark even with headlights and suddenly there is a barrier across the road in front of you with no form of warning signs or lights at all. Travelling at 100k( the legal limit) you dont have a lot of time to brake and move to the otherside of the road, often there is just a huge hole in the road where they have dug it up but no one stops to think to warn motorists that it is there. The ones running the roadworks should be charged with murder here, if they had bothered to use signs and warning lights it would not have happened, it appears profits are more important than lives in Thailand or is it that they are too lazy to put them out. Warning signs/lights are badly needed in this country how long till we get someone with the balls to tell the contractors they have to use them or face severe penalties Really? Most roads the limit is 90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiready Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Horrible news of course, but with more then 25.000 people killed in Thai traffic every year, I start to wonder why this is news, I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand..Nothing will change. Sad days for all the people involved. "I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand." As you could in any other country. It's obvious you missed the point entirely. .....at least in Most other Countries there adequate warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 RIP, The amount of road deaths in Thailand is frightening, a high percentage of the deaths will be motorcycles. most of the vehicles are fairly modern, with some old wrecks thrown in, but its the commercial side, lorries and buses that cause deaths everyday, that is down to the government for lack of rules, maintenance, driver training and enforcement by government departments and the police. I see we got to post 23, before some Brit bashing, quite good going really expecially in a thread about a bus crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowolf2012 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Sad. Wear a seat belt. How can you use a seat belt in a bus if you are to big for the seat belt. I'm 140 kg so every time I have to go Laos for make visa I felling I gambling with my live. The bus drive on road 2 over Khon Kaen Udon Thani and Nong khai. Road 2 in Thailand is very danger for accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowolf2012 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 This is good news. Only three dead. Better than the usual eight or ten. Things are getting better! Such an intelligent post. Are you one of the Brits seen on Bangkok Airport? What do I think is sarcasm or irony ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrosman Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I've ran out of fingers and toes to count in one month how many bus crashes occur in Thailand. Which is more safe, flying in storms or riding in a VIP bus? Here's a novel idea like in days of old in my country USA, truckers, over-the-road drivers had CB's to communicate such thinks as road conditions, accidents etc. How about the bus company makes a simple phone call daily to the authorities about the status of the roadway . Just like aircraft which get weather updates prior to departures. To simple to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 This is good news. Only three dead. Better than the usual eight or ten. Things are getting better! Such an intelligent post. Are you one of the Brits seen on Bangkok Airport? What do I think is sarcasm or irony ... Actually beowulf, Phatch was using a pint of sarcasm with a dash of irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I've ran out of fingers and toes to count in one month how many bus crashes occur in Thailand. Which is more safe, flying in storms or riding in a VIP bus? Here's a novel idea like in days of old in my country USA, truckers, over-the-road drivers had CB's to communicate such thinks as road conditions, accidents etc. How about the bus company makes a simple phone call daily to the authorities about the status of the roadway . Just like aircraft which get weather updates prior to departures. To simple to do? Thinking like a westerner again. Tsk, tsk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beowolf2012 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 So here we come to a problem I have conceived of in a long time.I think thai drivers drive good. The problem is Thai Cambodians.Thai Cambodians as a Thai national make them as Thai city cent.I'm sorry to say it, but I suppose Thailand could make a study of who is most involved in a mortorcykkel accident or car / bus accident. After the investigation is finished it will probably show the Thai Cambodians who are most involved in all accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 So here we come to a problem I have conceived of in a long time. I think thai drivers drive good. The problem is Thai Cambodians. Thai Cambodians as a Thai national make them as Thai city cent. I'm sorry to say it, but I suppose Thailand could make a study of who is most involved in a mortorcykkel accident or car / bus accident. After the investigation is finished it will probably show the Thai Cambodians who are most involved in all accident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge2bridge Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I know I have come close to hitting these barriers several times. For some reason they do roadwork in unlit areas that is pretty dark even with headlights and suddenly there is a barrier across the road in front of you with no form of warning signs or lights at all. Travelling at 100k( the legal limit) you dont have a lot of time to brake and move to the otherside of the road, often there is just a huge hole in the road where they have dug it up but no one stops to think to warn motorists that it is there. The ones running the roadworks should be charged with murder here, if they had bothered to use signs and warning lights it would not have happened, it appears profits are more important than lives in Thailand or is it that they are too lazy to put them out. Warning signs/lights are badly needed in this country how long till we get someone with the balls to tell the contractors they have to use them or face severe penalties. They should charge Prajin with criminal negligence and seek his impeachment as head of ministry of transport. You must be KIDDING. How can he be responsible for NO lights. A RED SHIRT comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIPinthailand Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thailand is very safe in my point of view , they are not at the bottom of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny S Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Horrible news of course, but with more then 25.000 people killed in Thai traffic every year, I start to wonder why this is news, I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand..Nothing will change. Sad days for all the people involved. "I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand." As you could in any other country. Not true ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid old goat Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 for a Thai, faster you go safer you are and I can prove they are totally right : take 2 hard cooked eggs, smash them, you will see that the fastest egg remains intact. try the pointy end of the stationary one into the side of the moving one. report back. will try on my next 16 baht double from 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 So here we come to a problem I have conceived of in a long time. I think thai drivers drive good. The problem is Thai Cambodians. Thai Cambodians as a Thai national make them as Thai city cent. I'm sorry to say it, but I suppose Thailand could make a study of who is most involved in a mortorcykkel accident or car / bus accident. After the investigation is finished it will probably show the Thai Cambodians who are most involved in all accident. What on earth is a Thai Cambodian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 So here we come to a problem I have conceived of in a long time. I think thai drivers drive good. The problem is Thai Cambodians. Thai Cambodians as a Thai national make them as Thai city cent. I'm sorry to say it, but I suppose Thailand could make a study of who is most involved in a mortorcykkel accident or car / bus accident. After the investigation is finished it will probably show the Thai Cambodians who are most involved in all accident. What on earth is a Thai Cambodian? Probably a bit like a French Canadian? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulchiangmai Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! The have the option of hiring someone to watch them at night. They can also,put surveillance cameras to watch the site. Neither are excessively expensive. Judgements against the construction companies may convince them that there are alternatives of having claimed to being this and that, which unfortunately is helping to cause these horrendous accidents. Benmart, have you any idea how long these road works are? I'm sure someone can give us the exact mileage but let me suggest they are well over a hundred kilometres long. Just travelled it the other day there and back. Plenty of warning signs which can be seen in the daylight but I agree very dangerous at night. Sheer drops on either side in many places, any motorcyclists who travel it from start to finish at night and survives should be given a medal, not sure if it should be for bravery or stupidity. Why they allow a contractor to rip up hundreds of k's all at once is beyond me. Why not start and finish say 10 k's at a time. As a previous writer said it has been going on for 18 months now and I cannot see for the life of me how it will be completed for at least one more year and probably a lot longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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