webfact Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Bus crash on Khao Kor kills three BANGKOK: -- A chartered double-deck tour bus with about 30 passengers crashed into a concrete barricade on the hilly Highway 12 from Phitsanulok to Lomsak last night, and overturned, killing three and wounding 28. The incident happened at 02.00 am Friday near Kilometre marker 109-110 in Khao Kor district where road repair work was on.The tour bus from Chonburi was running down the hilly stretch of the highway on its way to Laos.However without noticing the road repair work ahead which had no warning light signals, the driver rammed the bus into concrete barriers and overturned.Three passengers thrown outside the bus from impact were crushed beneath the overturned bus. They were killed.Rescue workers and highway police were alerted and rushed some 28 injured passengers to three hospitals, Khao Kor, Lomsak and Petcharat.They were all from Chonburi on the way to tour Vientiane in Laos. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/bus-crash-khao-kor-kills-three -- Thai PBS 2015-01-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kalbo123 Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Horrible news of course, but with more then 25.000 people killed in Thai traffic every year, I start to wonder why this is news, I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand..Nothing will change. Sad days for all the people involved. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Another............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 "However without noticing the road repair work ahead which had no warning light signals, the driver rammed the bus into concrete barriers and overturned." Charge the road contractor, charge the authorities for having no warning lights. So many times, I've seen that driving in Thailand. How many deaths they expect to see before they take any action? RIP to the diseased and hope a speedy recovery for the injured. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 I know I have come close to hitting these barriers several times. For some reason they do roadwork in unlit areas that is pretty dark even with headlights and suddenly there is a barrier across the road in front of you with no form of warning signs or lights at all. Travelling at 100k( the legal limit) you dont have a lot of time to brake and move to the otherside of the road, often there is just a huge hole in the road where they have dug it up but no one stops to think to warn motorists that it is there. The ones running the roadworks should be charged with murder here, if they had bothered to use signs and warning lights it would not have happened, it appears profits are more important than lives in Thailand or is it that they are too lazy to put them out. Warning signs/lights are badly needed in this country how long till we get someone with the balls to tell the contractors they have to use them or face severe penalties. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Route 12 is one of the most dangerous in Thailand, but also one of the most picturesque. Nice restaurants and hilltop coffee stations along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fareastguy Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I know I have come close to hitting these barriers several times. For some reason they do roadwork in unlit areas that is pretty dark even with headlights and suddenly there is a barrier across the road in front of you with no form of warning signs or lights at all. Travelling at 100k( the legal limit) you dont have a lot of time to brake and move to the otherside of the road, often there is just a huge hole in the road where they have dug it up but no one stops to think to warn motorists that it is there. The ones running the roadworks should be charged with murder here, if they had bothered to use signs and warning lights it would not have happened, it appears profits are more important than lives in Thailand or is it that they are too lazy to put them out. Warning signs/lights are badly needed in this country how long till we get someone with the balls to tell the contractors they have to use them or face severe penalties. They should charge Prajin with criminal negligence and seek his impeachment as head of ministry of transport. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacceka Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Sad. Wear a seat belt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 This is good news. Only three dead. Better than the usual eight or ten. Things are getting better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragickingdom Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 incompetence rules. Barriers everywhere the first sign three meters in front of the barriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westaurel Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Badly but so common, one more accident killing people ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Horrible news of course, but with more then 25.000 people killed in Thai traffic every year, I start to wonder why this is news, I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand..Nothing will change. Sad days for all the people involved. "I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand." As you could in any other country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid old goat Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! and paying for a night guard to watch the lights would be out of the question even when the consequences are well known. perhaps they should be charged with meditated murder right after you determine how much complicity there is with the local body snatchers/hospitals/etc Edited January 30, 2015 by rabid old goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 "However without noticing the road repair work ahead which had no warning light signals, the driver rammed the bus into concrete barriers and overturned." Charge the road contractor, charge the authorities for having no warning lights. So many times, I've seen that driving in Thailand. How many deaths they expect to see before they take any action? RIP to the diseased and hope a speedy recovery for the injured. The diseased do not need your goulish RIP wishes. The deceased might, but I doubt that they'd know anything about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assurancetourix Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! Na ! Na ! na & na ! Not the fault of the contractors ; niet, no, In the french " Code de la route " and certainly in the same english or german , dannish, norge...US ... book(s); it is written that the driver MUST drive according to .....what he or she can see; according to the weather, according to the road conditions.. according to .... But in Thailand it's only according to the power of the engine... So we can find coaches at some speeds often more than 120 km/h; For about 99,9 % of them , mecanics are from the middle of the last century ... I know what about I write; it was my job during nearly 40 years - coaches and big trucks all over Europe ; Ask only one question to a thai driver ( pickup, coach, truck, etan, samlo...); do you know what are security distances and why u MUST respect them ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post berybert Posted January 30, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2015 Horrible news of course, but with more then 25.000 people killed in Thai traffic every year, I start to wonder why this is news, I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand..Nothing will change. Sad days for all the people involved. "I think you can fill a daily news paper with all traffic accidents in Thailand." As you could in any other country. No you couldn't. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crocbait Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I have regularly driven that road. The road works have been going on for about 18months and at night the conditions are terrible. As stated no warning signs that the road is being diverted etc. Amazing there aren't worse accidents along that stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMajor Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 snip...I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! Reminds me of Newfoundlanders extinguishing lighthouses to have some nice wreckage to plunder at dawn. Those were the days my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Nobody cares These threads are useless as anybody who is anybody is chauffeur driven or flies to a destination. I check the below everyday to stop me from using public transport/motorbikes over here! Keeps me frosty! https://www.facebook.com/News.Thailand.Online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Yesterday on the same track from Lom Sak to kao Koh I was faced with one of these super buses trying to pass in a curve he had no vision. Thanx to my driving skills I am still alive. I was about to turn around, take his number and charge the mofo with attempted murder. Also I know that it is always a no win situation and kept going cursing for a while. One of the most dangerous roads in Thailand and no cops to be seen at all times. i wished I had a tank, which I used to drive when I was in the army. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 "However without noticing the road repair work ahead which had no warning light signals, the driver rammed the bus into concrete barriers and overturned." Charge the road contractor, charge the authorities for having no warning lights. So many times, I've seen that driving in Thailand. How many deaths they expect to see before they take any action? RIP to the diseased and hope a speedy recovery for the injured. The diseased do not need your goulish RIP wishes. The deceased might, but I doubt that they'd know anything about them. That gouliash (Hungarian soup) might be appreciated by the survivors. OTOH, the deceased may appear to be rather ghoulish after a few days. Sad but all too common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcharanan Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 This is good news. Only three dead. Better than the usual eight or ten. Things are getting better! Such an intelligent post. Are you one of the Brits seen on Bangkok Airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnehaha Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 While I agree in principle with posts #4 & 5 it does seem to be the contractors at fault, but I've seen this happen in my area,( in one incidence several times at one particular set of road repairs) I asked the very same question to the contractor who had to pull vehicles out of the way every morning before he could continue work.... the answer was plain & simple: We put up warning signs & lights every night but people steal them to sell for cash/recycling or materials for something else !! TIT nothing more to be said !! 15 years ago ... a friend of mine bought / built a nice home in upscale neighborhood just outside Beijing. The road in was windy and the residents put cash together to upgrade the road, paying for surveying, paving, painting etc. The local govt approved. They even put in yellow cat eyes on the sides and divider. It was a very nice few km. The cat eyes in particular were something I do not recall ever seeing in China before. Within a week all the cat eyes had been dug up and stolen. Sold? where? They were left with little gauges that they filled in and left alone. They put up street lights and these were stolen. They replaced them and finally they remained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 terribly scary area to drive through 'little switzerland' especially in a bus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Strangely enough all the building sites you see in Thailand have the usual safety notices displayed. I have seen sites were I would have closed down but they still have the Safety signs displayed. Unfortunately Safety in Thailand is a word nothing more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKASA Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 12 will be much better when they get done with the four lane, but I think the drivers will be pretty much the same as before. I am not sure there is much change between pre construction and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Route 12 is one of the most dangerous in Thailand, but also one of the most picturesque. Nice restaurants and hilltop coffee stations along the way Route 12 is a very long road,It goes all the way to Mukdahan. I have not been on that road from Phitsanulok, but once you turn left before Phetchaburn, it is not really a bad road at all, as long as the horny elephants are not on it, if so, your car may end up getting shagged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Discover Thainess!!! RIP to the victims, condolences to the families... Now what, Mr. PM? Oh yes - why not crack down on small foreign-part-owned tourism businesses, the ones who don't operate these Thailand to the Thais VIP buses with Yaa Baa addicted drivers who kill thousands of people every year? That would be a great start, wouldn't it... since all you officials can do is to point away from the guilty Thai persons or businesses to others, preferrably foreigners who do things by the books. While we are at it - crackdown on scuba operators (part-foreign owned ones only) would be cool too - this certainly will stop your useless Thai drug addicted drunks, who call themselves drivers, from killing people on a daily basis! Keep up the good work in cleaning up Thailand's act! Power to the people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Route 12 is one of the most dangerous in Thailand, but also one of the most picturesque. Nice restaurants and hilltop coffee stations along the way If you live to see them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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