webfact Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 British Man killed in South Pattaya Road CrashPATTAYA: -- In the early hours of Tuesday a fatal road crash occurred on the Sukhumvit Road in South Pattaya which resulted in the death of a 50 year old British motorcyclist.Police and medics rushed to the scene of the crash in front of the Thai Namtip Company and dealt with the incident which involved a truck and a high powered motorbike driven by Mr. Gregory Lee Simmons from Somerset, UK.Mr. Simmons was pronounced dead-at-the-scene and was lying on the road next to his red-plated motorbike. Police surmised that the bike had rear-ended a stationary truck, driven by Khun Manit aged 41. He had parked the truck in the right-hand carriageway with his hazard lights activated and was in the process of erecting signs for the upcoming Money Expo Event.Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/168780/british-man-killed-in-south-pattaya-road-crash/-- Pattaya One 2015-02-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Used to see him often as we used to use the same bar, very nice Guy. RIP Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thai roads are dangerous and full of people (and dogs) doing the most stupid things. There are much safer places in the world to drive fast, for those who feel they must. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted February 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. How many lives must be lost because of such idiocy. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jip99 Posted February 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. How many lives must be lost because of such idiocy. You obviously have not been out in the sticks - having any lights on a parked vehicle is unusual. Having hazard lights on a vehicle parked on the Sukumvit Road (which is a well-lit road) at least gives drivers a decent chance of avoiding it. If excessive speed or drink are involved it makes it harder. RIP Greg. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopis108 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Some of these chaps riding these highly powered bikes take huge chances and drive crazily and too fast-as do the young Thais who can afford these bikes-so obviously we will get these unfortunate and terrible accidents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chaiyapoon Posted February 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. How many lives must be lost because of such idiocy. The reality is that this sort of thing goes on all the time.Thais are simply not aware enough or just don't care.This isn't going to change in our lifetime. We who choose to live or stay here MUST modify our driving style to take this into account or more fatal and serious injuries will occur. RIP and my thoughts are with his family and friends at this time. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recycler Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 RIP, the hazard lights are not visible behind the open loading door of the truck, but off course nobody is at fault here again..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amykat Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I can't see any lights on the back of that truck. If they exist, and it is still dark, why are they turned off in the photo? I doubt they exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konying Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Any chance he was drunk to miss the truck? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 He died what he loved doing best. Driving without paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 RIP, the hazard lights are not visible behind the open loading door of the truck, but off course nobody is at fault here again..... The fault clearly lies with the rider. If he cannot see a truck, with the use of a headlight and reflective surfaces, not to mention eyesight, he should not have been riding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johnnie99 Posted February 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2015 If you could all stop blaming the Thai and realise that it is the duty of a rider or driver to pay attention and look out for hazards, your comments would make more sense. If he didn't see the damned truck, he was riding too fast. Hero? No. Fool. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 RIP, the hazard lights are not visible behind the open loading door of the truck, but off course nobody is at fault here again..... The fault clearly lies with the rider. If he cannot see a truck, with the use of a headlight and reflective surfaces, not to mention eyesight, he should not have been riding. Can't argue with that. I am not sure what a motocy would be doing in that lane, unless turning right/U-turning). RIP anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublin Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I can't see any lights on the back of that truck. If they exist, and it is still dark, why are they turned off in the photo? I doubt they exist. The lights are on but the tailgate is covering them,,, look at the left hand side of the truck.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I thought that "Money Expo" event had finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted February 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. How many lives must be lost because of such idiocy. agree, seen it many times on major roads and motorways were roadworks are taking place, a few cones placed 100m before the obstruction is not enough, in the UK the lane would be closed up to a mile or more before you reach the obstruction. Sukumvit is a major multi lane road and to have this truck parked at night in the middle of the right hand lane with only hazard lights flashing is lunacy and pure laziness, ok they say he was driving at high speed - a large motorbike always sounds like it's going at high speed even if it isn't, a convenient excuse to blame the bike rider even though the truck driver and his zero attempt to safely manage this lane obstruction especially at night was inadequate and dangerous and an accident waiting to happen, I know people will imagine Greg driving on the outside lane and going straight into the rear of the truck, it is more likely he was making a pass on another large vehicle and moved right were he got no warning of the obstruction or was behind a large vehicle that moved left Road safety is none existent - roadworks are especially dangerous as there seems to be no particular thought regulations or planning RIP Greg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. How many lives must be lost because of such idiocy. Hey chap, I've seen police cars parked in the fast lane looking for law breakers.............. RIP biker.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I can't see any lights on the back of that truck. If they exist, and it is still dark, why are they turned off in the photo? I doubt they exist. The lights are on but the tailgate is covering them,,, look at the left hand side of the truck.... correct, the lights cannot be seen at all and for those that are laying blame with Greg on this, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and would be better not speaking at all - there are ways to describe people who have a lot to say and find themselves generally ignored 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richusa Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Dangers.....Riding a motorcycle in Thailand after dark. Booze, Riding on Sukhumvit at night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I can't see any lights on the back of that truck. If they exist, and it is still dark, why are they turned off in the photo? I doubt they exist. The lights are on but the tailgate is covering them,,, look at the left hand side of the truck.... correct, the lights cannot be seen at all and for those that are laying blame with Greg on this, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and would be better not speaking at all - there are ways to describe people who have a lot to say and find themselves generally ignored I refer you to post #12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Opinions may differ but civility when posting and/or replying to posts is expected on the forum. Thank you. One offensive post and a reply quoting it have been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) correct, the lights cannot be seen at all and for those that are laying blame with Greg on this, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and would be better not speaking at all - there are ways to describe people who have a lot to say and find themselves generally ignored "...you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and would be better not speaking at all..." Does that same sentiment not apply to you also? Did you witness this accident? You omit to mention the witness who allegedly filmed him at high speed on his dash cam. Edited February 4, 2015 by Sviss Geez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. How many lives must be lost because of such idiocy. Could have easily been a truck broken down, a truck turning right, or a truck just going slower than the bike. Clearly this guy for what ever reason was not looking where he was going, or what he could see did not register until too late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddinChonburi Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Another death for no good reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. If they are working on the central reservation then there is no reason why they should not park on the outside lane. Better that than crossing the whole carriageway on foot endlessly. I've driven along Sukumvit at night and it is mostly quite well-lit. Anyone driving at a reasonable speed and in control of his vehicle and senses should spot an obstacle well before hitting it. And anyone who cant see what's in front of them within stopping distance should be driving much more slowly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Come on.....give the truck-driver a break..........."driving a stationary truck" is hard enough!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Were there warning triangles placed behind the truck at a sufficient distance? Hazard lights on or not, 'parking' in the right hand lane surely is not permitted.....putting up advertising boards is not excuse enough. If they are working on the central reservation then there is no reason why they should not park on the outside lane. Better that than crossing the whole carriageway on foot endlessly. I've driven along Sukumvit at night and it is mostly quite well-lit. Anyone driving at a reasonable speed and in control of his vehicle and senses should spot an obstacle well before hitting it. And anyone who cant see what's in front of them within stopping distance should be driving much more slowly. You may be right Kitten, but in one way or the other this partly blockage of the right-lane confuses loads of people. A lot of "finding the correct lane actions" resulting in riders and drivers going crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYumpoochai Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Some of these chaps riding these highly powered bikes take huge chances and drive crazily and too fast-as do the young Thais who can afford these bikes-so obviously we will get these unfortunate and terrible accidents. Here we go AGAIN with the pansy brigade trying to tell us what we should do with our lives. If youre too scared to go faster than walking pace then stay at home and leave other people to do what they enjoy.more people die on tiny little scooters than on nasty big motorbikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 A slur post removed. You are all reminded to keep it civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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