(Wife) Need to buy a gun (registered)

[marcfarang]

Hello ,

Can my wife buy a gun (any) and get it registered at the police ?

Or do she need to buy the gun directly from the police ?

We just asked 1 police officer and he told my wife that the cost will be 100'000 Baht .

A gun from the internet shop is around 50000 .

Any advice is much appreciated

TOO MANY "SCOIS" AND SERIAL KILLERS IN OUR SOI !! scary

[gerry123]

TOO MANY "SCOIS" AND SERIAL KILLERS IN OUR SOI !! scary just a question are all these people gun toters ??

[georgegeorgia]

Why do you need a gun?

[marcfarang]

yes most of those guys have guns

thats deep and real thailand , no tourists

[marcfarang]

my wife needs a gun to protect her self

you tourists have no idea , what is going on in here ......

[gerry123]

i guess moving is not an option ?? very much safer than joining the gun toters at there own game have to say certainly sounds scary

[marcfarang]

Please and kindly , has anyone bought a gun in thailand ?

no questions please , just response if you have the experience

thanks a lot

appreciated

[marcfarang]

no moving is not an option yet .. cheers

[h90]

I doubt that it is that expensive......But I don't know.

[MrTee]

what is a "SCOIS"?

[stat088]

Your wife has to get permission from the Ampher first. They will tell you the process.

[stat088]

Amphur

[billphillips]

The police offer was, I feel confident, an under the table deal. Don't buy from him. Every time he needs cash he will be back to see you, as the gun will be illegal, you will have to pay up.

I'm not sure about the Internet shop deal but its probably under the table too. The lower price would be because it's an old, much used gun and possibly used in previous crimes.

The correct procedure is to obtain the permit first and then buy a new gun from a dealer or a secondhand gun from a registered owner or dealer. The new gun is preferable every time.

To obtain a permit your wife must satisfy the head of the local government office I can't recall the exact title) that a need exists. For example ... a gold shop owner or someone that for some professional reason needs to have large sums of cash with them after the banks have closed, say perhaps a car dealer.

I'm sure that you understand that a "spot of oiling the wheels" is still necessary. No amount of extra oiling will get you a permit if your need can't be proven. It's going to cost you 1 to 200,000 ฿ to get the legal gun into your hand.

Your stated need for a gun is not sufficient in my mind and I don't think it will work. Having a permit for a gun does not entitle you to shoot in a public place. Using a gun as a threatening (self defence) device is risky. If you point the thing at a bad guy you have to be prepared to use it ... Or he could simply take it off you.

Save your cash and freedom by giving up the idea, it's a bad one.

[NeverSure]

You need to know someone high ranking such as in the police. If your wife thinks about it she knows someone who knows this person.

You have that person take you to the amphur to get approved. Then you take that paperwork to a gun dealer and buy your gun and register it back with the amphur.

Expect to grease some palms.

My experience is that a good handgun such as a Glock costs about 4 times in Thailand what it would be in the US. Figure at least 50 or 60K baht. More with brown envelopes.

You can't use that gun if it's registered to your wife. It is for one person only. You would have to go through the process yourself. So don't be caught shooting it, especially at a criminal if you don't have the license. Yes a farang can get a license.

HERE's the rub. It takes time and practice to be any good at all with a handgun. It has a short sight radius and is hard to aim while you pull the trigger. Those of us who grew up with them have it easy just like I would have it easy if I grew up with Thai. But to start out fresh is going to take a long time, training and practice to be able to overcome adrenaline and distraction at that critical moment even if she's been shooting well at targets. It has to become an instinct.

Look on the web for the technique of "point shooting". IMHO this is the best for beginners and advanced. It is a technique where you use your instincts like you do pointing your finger, rather than using the formal method of strictly the sights.

Good luck in whatever you do. Owning a gun you aren't expert with can get you into trouble if it makes you feel big and like standing your ground. Read everything you can on the internet about gun control (the type where you hit your target, LOL,) and safety and techniques. Practice and practice more.

[georgemandm]

Hello ,

Can my wife buy a gun (any) and get it registered at the police ?

Or do she need to buy the gun directly from the police ?

We just asked 1 police officer and he told my wife that the cost will be 100'000 Baht .

A gun from the internet shop is around 50000 .

Any advice is much appreciated

TOO MANY "SCOIS" AND SERIAL KILLERS IN OUR SOI !! scary

Move you would be mad to buy a gun do you know how bad guns are I am a gun owner and if you don't know much about them don't buy one and a western and thai wife with a gun bad , bad .

[kwak250]

TOO MANY "SCOIS" AND SERIAL KILLERS IN OUR SOI !! scary just a question are all these people gun toters ??

Wow your starting early on the Juice today!

most people dont talk about needing a gun until they completely trashed

Im not a tourist and still cant see why i would need a gun . Granted a few soi dogs get on my nerves

I would be more worried my wife has a gun.

Good luck and hope we dont read about you in the near future

[toybits]

No gun - Wish I had a gun.

Have gun - Wish I knew how to shoot and hit a target.

Know how to shoot - Are you willing to pull out and use the gun?

Shoot suspect - Police come and put wife in Jail for killing someone.

Is having a gun the only option?

What about Mace or pepper spray? Something non-lethal...?

Edited February 6, 2015 by toybits

[Dutchbike]

This might be a model your wife likes:

Serious, don't get into getting a gun in Thailand.

Bad Karma written all over it.

[lazygourmet]

At home, we deeply despite keeping guns..

But regarding the idiocity from people like the OP, that's why we always have some fully loaded... Just in case!!

In Thailand, gun licenses are transmutable from father to kids and licenses need to be shown to buy munitions at a shop usually located behind a mess/officer clubhouse,.

i.e. Dusit next door to the King palace is the place my wife goes for "shopping" as her father was an army officer based on those premises.

But as a foreigner don't even dream (married or not) to be able to put a foot behind the gates.

Here, as an example, is a legal license for a .45:

Edited February 6, 2015 by lazygourmet

[Guest]

It is as easy as 1,2,3 to solve this problem:

(1) Open suitcase
(2) Fill suitcase
(3) Call taxi

Been there, done that, and it worked very well indeed.

I even learned to never create another situation in my life where this conversation would be had.

Move on, and never look back.

Edited February 6, 2015 by Guest

[ukchatterbox]

You must prove the need to purchase a weapon to obtain a purchase permit from the Tessabhan, You can not buy from a shop without this. Showing wealth that needs protecting is suitable.

There is an area close to KSR that has many gun shops. Prices for a 9mm sidearm start at around 100K for a CZ model. Beretta, Glock etc are more expensive coming in at around 150K.

Military and police personnel receive 50% discount. Some people have a friend in the services to purchase for them but the downside is it must be kept in their name for a period of 5 years.

On purchasing you need to revisit the Tessabhan to register your weapon and apply for a permit. Cost for permits approx. 7K this allows you to transport the weapon also.

Ammunition isn't cheap, especially from the shops. 9mm Thai Military FMJ can be purchased at military ranges for approx. 800 Baht per 50 rounds.

[bendywire]

This has to be one of the most stupid posts I have read here on TV. You need a gun because you know that on your soi lives serial killers? Not singular but plural. Do you not see just how stuuuuupid that sounds?

[CharlieH]

I'm worried, buy a gun, like that will solve anything. If you run in a sewer you'll meet rats.

If there is a problem with your environment, change it !

Inexperience and firearms is a recipe for misery and death !

Buying a gun and using it is not like the movies or a playstation.

I suggest. the first thing you need is an attitude adjustment and reality check.

Edited February 6, 2015 by CharlieH

[Estrada]

"Wife needs to buy a gun!" Your days are numbered, start counting down.

[Dublin]

Not sure where you live, but try going to the head of the Village, where i live the guy has a brochure, rifles, pump action, glock's, S&W, M4's M16's,, depending what you want your looking at paying over double the price than the US ... stay away from the police unless its a family member...

Maybe start with a Taser before the gun!!!!

[mitsubishi]

The police offer was, I feel confident, an under the table deal. Don't buy from him. Every time he needs cash he will be back to see you, as the gun will be illegal, you will have to pay up.

I'm not sure about the Internet shop deal but its probably under the table too. The lower price would be because it's an old, much used gun and possibly used in previous crimes.

The correct procedure is to obtain the permit first and then buy a new gun from a dealer or a secondhand gun from a registered owner or dealer. The new gun is preferable every time.

To obtain a permit your wife must satisfy the head of the local government office I can't recall the exact title) that a need exists. For example ... a gold shop owner or someone that for some professional reason needs to have large sums of cash with them after the banks have closed, say perhaps a car dealer.

I'm sure that you understand that a "spot of oiling the wheels" is still necessary. No amount of extra oiling will get you a permit if your need can't be proven. It's going to cost you 1 to 200,000 ฿ to get the legal gun into your hand.

Your stated need for a gun is not sufficient in my mind and I don't think it will work. Having a permit for a gun does not entitle you to shoot in a public place. Using a gun as a threatening (self defence) device is risky. If you point the thing at a bad guy you have to be prepared to use it ... Or he could simply take it off you.

Save your cash and freedom by giving up the idea, it's a bad one.

Some BS in your post.

Need for a gun can be varied. I want to target shoot, I want to collect guns, I want to protect my self from criminal-burglar / home-invader etc etc.

Unless your wife has a criminal record you're good to go. No need for bribes but slow if without them.

Some beautiful areas of Thailand tend to have lawless low-lives in them and if you are a farang you are an instant mark for crime if you aren't careful. You city-types have no idea.

[inkorat]

Go to a legitament gun shop in your area and they can normally take care of everything.

[mitsubishi]

Not sure where you live, but try going to the head of the Village, where i live the guy has a brochure, rifles, pump action, glock's, S&W, M4's M16's,, depending what you want your looking at paying over double the price than the US ... stay away from the police unless its a family member...

Maybe start with a Taser before the gun!!!!

You have to notify the cops when you apply for a firearm AFAIK

You can get conceal carry license from the police in some areas. Military surplus rifles (semi-auto) are outlawed, unless your province was just ignoring it. Pistols are ok though.

[Zumteufel]

my wife needs a gun to protect her self

you tourists have no idea , what is going on in here ......

Lived and worked here for 9 years. No serial killers in my soi as far as I know.

[Vogele123]

Your wife can apply for a gun. I believe the "True" cost for the permit application is something like 8 Baht - yes, ridiculous. But she will certainly end up having to pay more than that (but nowhere near 50K)

You need to apply at the Ampoe initially, and will need references from the local village headman etc.

I have a friend whose wife got a permit and she has 2 x 12 gauge pump action shotguns (I believe the two cost about 100K)

It is not a quick process, but is easily doable. Goodluck.

Please post if you manage to succeed and let us know the actual costs.

I had a "dodgy" Chinese / Thai pistol that fired 12 bore "00" buck shotgun shells, but had to get rid of it as if caught I believe it can be life in prison, damn thing had a kick like a mule and you had wrist problems for a couple of days if you fired off half a dozen rounds.

The beauty of that thing was the sound when it went off would have scared the living daylights out of anyone within 100 yards without the actual need to shoot them (it couldn't hit a barn door at 20 yards) but would have been an effective deterrent.

Edited February 6, 2015 by Vogele123