Rare anti-coup protest in Thailand

[djjamie]

I wonder what the reaction would have been had Prayuth said "I warn the protesters not to come, otherwise they will all be arrested. There will be no space reserved for the protest but only jails awaiting them. There will be no talk whatsoever, only arrests. And the Chiang Mai people should not let these people, who are like garbage, mess around."

That is a typical narrative of a ruthless Junta right? Imagine the uproar had Prayuth said that. The UDD supporters would be up in arms. TVF would have a melt down from the apologists coming out denouncing him and stating "See, they are bad" or "This is no surprise from the Junta" or "The Junta have really shown their true colors here"

Unfortunately it wasn't a quote from Prayuth. It was a quote from the last government's deputy PM.

Let that sink in. This is from a government that purported to be democratic. The CM people he is referring to is the ruthless terrorist group called RCM51. An organization of which had no issues with violently attacking gays, killing DJ's fathers or attacking anyone else that disagreed with the terrorist aka UDD ethos in CM.

Seems the Junta are showing more signs of democratic tendencies than the PTP did. AND the Junta have never ever purported to be democratic unlike the PTP.

Now when the deputy PM stated the above there was silence front the yingluck camp. There was even justification of it simply because the deputy PM was a PTP member. Statements were witnessed like "Plodprasop has a point" or "They don't need protestors ruining the imagine of Thailand" or "The protestors are yellows in disguise so should all be arrested anyway" or "They should protest away from the water summit so as not to be seen by inter nation press" Not one red denounced this. Democracy when it suits them. Justification for a lack there of when it doesn't.

No hint of that cancerous UDD narrative here. A few arrests and the journey towards democracy continues. The democracy that will ensure that democratically elected deputy PM's cannot get away with being undemocratic 1 second after the ballot box results are finalized and that protestors are NOT threatened by terrorist organizations if they dare try to have their voice heard. It is because of Plodprasops ilk and underlying, violent streak that Marshal law is in place and is why reform is needed.

Well done to the Junta for showing such restraint. The next government could learn a few things from this Junta.

Edited February 14, 2015 by djjamie

[ballpoint]

The students are gradually ramping up the dissent. The parade last week, now this.

The junta will be having sleepless nights over what's coming next and how to deal with it!

Actually, Thaksin and the red leadership would be the ones having sleepless nights if a real pro-democracy movement were to ever kick off in Thailand.

[NickJ]

Have any of you really really researched anything in regards to this Kingdom? Are do you just try and paste upon it what you think is right??? My Father.....used to say that 85%of the world cant find his own ass.

most of you are Fools that. Would never have found your way here if not for the intenet.....most likley ever have left your home born city.......my Mother was born here in 1933.....i moved here in 1992.... ..I really wish most of you would just leave.

[h90]

The students are gradually ramping up the dissent. The parade last week, now this.

The junta will be having sleepless nights over what's coming next and how to deal with it!

Well knowing the great leader.... more stricter laws... less freedom (if that is possible)... go to China for hints.... complain nobody loves him... have another poll...

Go Students Go

Run Yingluk Run

or ask Thaksin for hints, because he started the internet censorship and was the one who brought the newspapers under control.....Don't need to look to China

[baboon]

A brave bunch of kids practicing freedom.

Where have they been during the TRT / PTP governments?

Tucked up in their cots presumably, if they are students now. What an odd question!

[rijb]

I wonder what the reaction would have been had Prayuth said "I warn the protesters not to come, otherwise they will all be arrested. There will be no space reserved for the protest but only jails awaiting them. There will be no talk whatsoever, only arrests. And the Chiang Mai people should not let these people, who are like garbage, mess around."

That is a typical narrative of a ruthless Junta right? Imagine the uproar had Prayuth said that. The UDD supporters would be up in arms. TVF would have a melt down from the apologists coming out denouncing him and stating "See, they are bad" or "This is no surprise from the Junta" or "The Junta have really shown their true colors here"

Unfortunately it wasn't a quote from Prayuth. It was a quote from the last government's deputy PM.

Let that sink in. This is from a government that purported to be democratic. The CM people he is referring to is the ruthless terrorist group called RCM51. An organization of which had no issues with violently attacking gays, killing DJ's fathers or attacking anyone else that disagreed with the terrorist aka UDD ethos in CM.

Seems the Junta are showing more signs of democratic tendencies than the PTP did. AND the Junta have never ever purported to be democratic unlike the PTP.

Now when the deputy PM stated the above there was silence front the yingluck camp. There was even justification of it simply because the deputy PM was a PTP member. Statements were witnessed like "Plodprasop has a point" or "They don't need protestors ruining the imagine of Thailand" or "The protestors are yellows in disguise so should all be arrested anyway" or "They should protest away from the water summit so as not to be seen by inter nation press" Not one red denounced this. Democracy when it suits them. Justification for a lack there of when it doesn't.

No hint of that cancerous UDD narrative here. A few arrests and the journey towards democracy continues. The democracy that will ensure that democratically elected deputy PM's cannot get away with being undemocratic 1 second after the ballot box results are finalized and that protestors are NOT threatened by terrorist organizations if they dare try to have their voice heard. It is because of Plodprasops ilk and underlying, violent streak that Marshal law is in place and is why reform is needed.

Well done to the Junta for showing such restraint. The next government could learn a few things from this Junta.

I'm sensing a pattern in your logic... 'junta for democracy' ... 'bombing for peace' ... ' screwing for virginity'

Edited February 14, 2015 by rijb

[ballpoint]

Have any of you really really researched anything in regards to this Kingdom? Are do you just try and paste upon it what you think is right??? My Father.....used to say that 85%of the world cant find his own ass.

most of you are Fools that. Would never have found your way here if not for the intenet.....most likley ever have left your home born city.......my Mother was born here in 1933.....i moved here in 1992.... ..I really wish most of you would just leave.

What made your father think the world was interested in finding his ass, and what happened to the 15% who did manage to find it?

[brewsterbudgen]

I wonder what the reaction would have been had Prayuth said "I warn the protesters not to come, otherwise they will all be arrested. There will be no space reserved for the protest but only jails awaiting them. There will be no talk whatsoever, only arrests. And the Chiang Mai people should not let these people, who are like garbage, mess around."

That is a typical narrative of a ruthless Junta right? Imagine the uproar had Prayuth said that. The UDD supporters would be up in arms. TVF would have a melt down from the apologists coming out denouncing him and stating "See, they are bad" or "This is no surprise from the Junta" or "The Junta have really shown their true colors here"

Unfortunately it wasn't a quote from Prayuth. It was a quote from the last government's deputy PM.

Let that sink in. This is from a government that purported to be democratic. The CM people he is referring to is the ruthless terrorist group called RCM51. An organization of which had no issues with violently attacking gays, killing DJ's fathers or attacking anyone else that disagreed with the terrorist aka UDD ethos in CM.

Seems the Junta are showing more signs of democratic tendencies than the PTP did. AND the Junta have never ever purported to be democratic unlike the PTP.

Now when the deputy PM stated the above there was silence front the yingluck camp. There was even justification of it simply because the deputy PM was a PTP member. Statements were witnessed like "Plodprasop has a point" or "They don't need protestors ruining the imagine of Thailand" or "The protestors are yellows in disguise so should all be arrested anyway" or "They should protest away from the water summit so as not to be seen by inter nation press" Not one red denounced this. Democracy when it suits them. Justification for a lack there of when it doesn't.

No hint of that cancerous UDD narrative here. A few arrests and the journey towards democracy continues. The democracy that will ensure that democratically elected deputy PM's cannot get away with being undemocratic 1 second after the ballot box results are finalized and that protestors are NOT threatened by terrorist organizations if they dare try to have their voice heard. It is because of Plodprasops ilk and underlying, violent streak that Marshal law is in place and is why reform is needed.

Well done to the Junta for showing such restraint. The next government could learn a few things from this Junta.

Nice try, but smacks of desperation. If your junta has such democratic tendencies, then why not allow free speech?

Sure reform is needed; but not at the point of a rifle.

[tbthailand]

We want are false paid for soccer democracy back......with who ever has the most money is the most democratic.......democratic rule here will never happen as it appears in rhe west. Its a matter of who will rule and in that possitio n who will have the people at heart....Benevolent????

sorry it is not the people with the most money that wins

how amusingly true in Thailand

[Jumper]

I just posted that I "Like" ddjamie's post. He had some very thoughtful comments in support of Phrayut that I agree with. In the situation that was confronting Thailand last May, a coup might actually have been the only reasonable option.

I truly hope the good General succeeds in his efforts to revamp the Thai political scene, but I also hope that he understands that big things spawn from small beginnings.

[PatOngo]

The students are gradually ramping up the dissent. The parade last week, now this.

The junta will be having sleepless nights over what's coming next and how to deal with it!

You obviously don't remember General Suchinda.1992.

[Briggsy]

Both sides will escalate till the Army start shooting people. It is a well known dance in which both sides know their roles and tend to stick to them. The massacre, which will occur, will end Prayuth's (if he is still in charge) political career but open a new one for him as a privy councillor out of the limelight along with some other state positions, board of Thai Airways, perhaps. He will be replaced and elections called for a few months hence and the whole cycle will recommence.

[khunsiam]

The students are gradually ramping up the dissent. The parade last week, now this.

The junta will be having sleepless nights over what's coming next and how to deal with it!

Im not sure if its a joke or that you really believe it. The army is firmly in power and the only ones scared are the red shirts. Not a peep from them they are either scared or they did not get paid. Probably both.

A few students scaring the army. Real funny... if is was a big protest or nation wide maybe but just this is nothing.

the army can't even control a few taxi drivers in Samui

[scorecard]

And as I've said before AFP way less than balanced or even truthful in their report.

[scorecard]

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The students are gradually ramping up the dissent. The parade last week, now this.

The junta will be having sleepless nights over what's coming next and how to deal with it!

Im not sure if its a joke or that you really believe it. The army is firmly in power and the only ones scared are the red shirts. Not a peep from them they are either scared or they did not get paid. Probably both.

A few students scaring the army. Real funny... if is was a big protest or nation wide maybe but just this is nothing.

the army can't even control a few taxi drivers in Samui

You really think the army should be seeing taxis on Samui as their highest priority?

You remind me of a lady in our village who tells the neighbors everyday she's very disappointed that the general has not come to fix her sagging fence.

You have anything more constructive to offer on the big picture overriding problems?

Edited February 14, 2015 by scorecard

[MrPerfect]

Excellent!

Let Freedom Ring.

So Thaksin can buy the election.....500 Baht.....

If Thaksin only wins because he pays 500 baht, why don't the Yellow minority cowards all chip in and pay 600 Baht...guaranteeing their win? Surely the donations from Sutheps "great mass of the people" could easily outbid Thaksin. Your logic doesn't add up, your team will never win an election and so you attempt to denigrate democracy - the best form of government mankind has ever created.

[tbthailand]

And as I've said before AFP way less than balanced or even truthful in their report.

is there something in the article that you would call 'less than truthful'?

[Ricardo]

How very fortunate that AFP just happened to be there, in the right time & place, to report this story.

[angiolo]

Oh dear,if the Chinese have influence here there could be some shooting in the square

[tbthailand]

Excellent!

Let Freedom Ring.

So Thaksin can buy the election.....500 Baht.....

If Thaksin only wins because he pays 500 baht, why don't the Yellow minority cowards all chip in and pay 600 Baht...guaranteeing their win? Surely the donations from Sutheps "great mass of the people" could easily outbid Thaksin. Your logic doesn't add up, your team will never win an election and so you attempt to denigrate democracy - the best form of government mankind has ever created.

certain factions in Thailand have never wanted democracy, so they promote bogus ideas, among them, vote buying, in order to marginalize both the people who vote and democracy itself.

It's not a complicated strategy, but it seems to work for them.

[MrPerfect]

I just posted that I "Like" ddjamie's post. He had some very thoughtful comments in support of Phrayut that I agree with. In the situation that was confronting Thailand last May, a coup might actually have been the only reasonable option.

I truly hope the good General succeeds in his efforts to revamp the Thai political scene, but I also hope that he understands that big things spawn from small beginnings.

The army let the situation occur, they supported the Yellow crims behind the scenes, they armed Sutheps thugs, they funded the illegal rioting, they undermined the police and they where derelict in their self appointed duty of protecting the Thai people from internal threats. He cannot succeed, he can only delay the inevitable, enjoy your 5 minutes of nationalistic, right wing semi-fascism, democracy always triumphs.

[heybruce]

I wonder what the reaction would have been had Prayuth said "I warn the protesters not to come, otherwise they will all be arrested. There will be no space reserved for the protest but only jails awaiting them. There will be no talk whatsoever, only arrests. And the Chiang Mai people should not let these people, who are like garbage, mess around."

That is a typical narrative of a ruthless Junta right? Imagine the uproar had Prayuth said that. The UDD supporters would be up in arms. TVF would have a melt down from the apologists coming out denouncing him and stating "See, they are bad" or "This is no surprise from the Junta" or "The Junta have really shown their true colors here"

Unfortunately it wasn't a quote from Prayuth. It was a quote from the last government's deputy PM.

Let that sink in. This is from a government that purported to be democratic. The CM people he is referring to is the ruthless terrorist group called RCM51. An organization of which had no issues with violently attacking gays, killing DJ's fathers or attacking anyone else that disagreed with the terrorist aka UDD ethos in CM.

Seems the Junta are showing more signs of democratic tendencies than the PTP did. AND the Junta have never ever purported to be democratic unlike the PTP.

Now when the deputy PM stated the above there was silence front the yingluck camp. There was even justification of it simply because the deputy PM was a PTP member. Statements were witnessed like "Plodprasop has a point" or "They don't need protestors ruining the imagine of Thailand" or "The protestors are yellows in disguise so should all be arrested anyway" or "They should protest away from the water summit so as not to be seen by inter nation press" Not one red denounced this. Democracy when it suits them. Justification for a lack there of when it doesn't.

No hint of that cancerous UDD narrative here. A few arrests and the journey towards democracy continues. The democracy that will ensure that democratically elected deputy PM's cannot get away with being undemocratic 1 second after the ballot box results are finalized and that protestors are NOT threatened by terrorist organizations if they dare try to have their voice heard. It is because of Plodprasops ilk and underlying, violent streak that Marshal law is in place and is why reform is needed.

Well done to the Junta for showing such restraint. The next government could learn a few things from this Junta.

Obviously you couldn't find any examples of Yingluck's government banning peaceful protests or detaining protesters without charge, so you tried to make some foolish words spoken by the Deputy PM seem important. It didn't work.

"A few arrests and the journey towards democracy continues."

I don't think any informed person ever believed the junta was interested in democracy, and as more is learned about their plans to neuter democracy the number of misinformed optimists is declining. I don't think you believe the junta will bring about a better democracy, I think you prefer the secure predictability of authoritarian government to the messy uncertainty of elected government.

You ended by congratulating the junta for restraint because they only hauled off some of the peaceful protesters. Clear evidence of your fondness for authoritarian government.

Edited February 14, 2015 by heybruce

[khunsiam]

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The students are gradually ramping up the dissent. The parade last week, now this.

The junta will be having sleepless nights over what's coming next and how to deal with it!

Im not sure if its a joke or that you really believe it. The army is firmly in power and the only ones scared are the red shirts. Not a peep from them they are either scared or they did not get paid. Probably both.

A few students scaring the army. Real funny... if is was a big protest or nation wide maybe but just this is nothing.

the army can't even control a few taxi drivers in Samui

You really think the army should be seeing taxis on Samui as their highest priority?

You remind me of a lady in our village who tells the neighbors everyday she's very disappointed that the general has not come to fix her sagging fence.

You have anything more constructive to offer on the big picture overriding problems?

you can get it if you really want

[givenall]

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Excellent!

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Let Freedom Ring.

Not everyone can handle democracy. Seen it many time already here. People vote mean nothing since they are easily bought by money and promises

[robblok]

I just posted that I "Like" ddjamie's post. He had some very thoughtful comments in support of Phrayut that I agree with. In the situation that was confronting Thailand last May, a coup might actually have been the only reasonable option.

I truly hope the good General succeeds in his efforts to revamp the Thai political scene, but I also hope that he understands that big things spawn from small beginnings.

The army let the situation occur, they supported the Yellow crims behind the scenes, they armed Sutheps thugs, they funded the illegal rioting, they undermined the police and they where derelict in their self appointed duty of protecting the Thai people from internal threats. He cannot succeed, he can only delay the inevitable, enjoy your 5 minutes of nationalistic, right wing semi-fascism, democracy always triumphs.

No it was Thaksin that started it all, the PTP would still be in power if he had not let them add his name to the amnesty list (after they send the opposition home to vote on it an other pearl of democratic example). It was this that channeled the opposition and led to the downfall of the PTP and the rule of the junta. When will the redshirts get their facts straight. Probably never as it im embarrassing to them to see how selfish their leader is and how he breaks it all down.

Even the redshirt leaders acknowledge that it was this action that led to the demise of the government.

[BirdsandBooze]

The students are gradually ramping up the dissent. The parade last week, now this.

The junta will be having sleepless nights over what's coming next and how to deal with it!

Im not sure if its a joke or that you really believe it. The army is firmly in power and the only ones scared are the red shirts. Not a peep from them they are either scared or they did not get paid. Probably both.

A few students scaring the army. Real funny... if is was a big protest or nation wide maybe but just this is nothing.

I saw them at Siam Square this afternoon and they numbered around fifty. Whatever some of the barstool blowhards here may think of them they were articulate, polite, amiable and were well recieved by the people they spoke to. Although they could hardly be perceived as a threat to the junta it still takes a bit of courage for someone to openly stand up for their beliefs at the moment.

[khunsiam]

I just posted that I "Like" ddjamie's post. He had some very thoughtful comments in support of Phrayut that I agree with. In the situation that was confronting Thailand last May, a coup might actually have been the only reasonable option.

I truly hope the good General succeeds in his efforts to revamp the Thai political scene, but I also hope that he understands that big things spawn from small beginnings.

The army let the situation occur, they supported the Yellow crims behind the scenes, they armed Sutheps thugs, they funded the illegal rioting, they undermined the police and they where derelict in their self appointed duty of protecting the Thai people from internal threats. He cannot succeed, he can only delay the inevitable, enjoy your 5 minutes of nationalistic, right wing semi-fascism, democracy always triumphs.

No it was Thaksin that started it all, the PTP would still be in power if he had not let them add his name to the amnesty list (after they send the opposition home to vote on it an other pearl of democratic example). It was this that channeled the opposition and led to the downfall of the PTP and the rule of the junta. When will the redshirts get their facts straight. Probably never as it im embarrassing to them to see how selfish their leader is and how he breaks it all down.

Even the redshirt leaders acknowledge that it was this action that led to the demise of the government.

no, the plan for the uprising was ready springtime 2013, I was informed by "yellow" friends about the conspiracy in july 2013, months before the amnesty bill voting.

[surangw]

what language were the copies of 1984 printed in, and lots of cartoons to keep the audience reading ?

[binjalin]

you have to applaud people who have had their rights taken away standing up for their freedoms

[musiclover]

U havent been here as long as I have.....trust me....the peoples votes are still paid for anytime there is an election.....

Ive been here longer than you, and can assure you that though votes may be 'paid for' as you put it , both parties have done it, and in fact it's made no difference to the results ! The 500 baht election is long gone !