Drug dealers are the scum of the earth and should be wiped from the face of it

And who are you to decide what people do?

When I was a kid in the '60s we called his type 'control freaks.'

I think this is how The Who got started

I think this is how The Who got started

And some drugs of course.

I think this is how The Who got started

And some drugs of course.

I think it was black bombers back in the day - or French blues if you were rich or connected..

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

Didn't advocates of the Volstead Act ask the same thing?

Can see why though. I can't walk anywhere without tripping over all these drunk 7 and 8 year old kids

I was not going to bite but i will A lot of drug dealers are supplied by SOME and a I say Some, before some one jumps in and says they are not all bad. The Police. I know of some police who regularly stop drug dealers. The dealer, does a deal , not to be arrested if an amount is handed over, then the Person who i call the police gives it to another entrusted friend who then sells it again. I know because a female friend of mine got involved, when the hit the fan she was made the scape goat, she is now in prison for about 7 years, Yes she should not have got involved but.7 years while the main culprit gets away with it, As always is the case with drug dealers only the minnows get caught and do the time.

Edited February 22, 201511 yr by Thongkorn

The war on drugs has been a complete failure.

Not for those groups making money from it, including government bodies and companies that actually rely on it to exist.

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Actually people have been using drugs since the beginning of time it was just moralist and religious fanatics (and big business) That limited it for their own reasons.

Of course some people will stay addicted to drugs.. as long as they don't bother others what is the problem. Problem is when they can't get drugs.. when its to expensive and they need to steal or resort to violence to get it. The price of drugs would be so cheap if it was legal. So a lot of that crime is gone. And look in Holland to see that the amount of drug users as a percentage is not higher as that in a strict controlled country like the US or OZ.

I like the children analogy.. too bad it holds no water. Alcohol is a drug (hard-drug at that) that is legally for sale.. in general I don't see many young kids drunk in the playground now. Why would it be different with drugs.. I wrote an other post about a card system where only those that can handle drugs can buy it. Sure you got resale.. but else coppers would never come out behind their desks. So let them work for their money a bit too. No system will be 100% perfect (else we would have it already) but what we have now does not work and limits personal freedoms.

We already have alcohol that increases violence.. and we are still ok that people consume it. Now I actually feel that violent drunks should get a few chances.. and after that they loose the right to consume alcohol. (card system) Go after the problem people instead of a banning it for all. Same can apply for the more dangerous drugs not everyone turns into a homicidal maniac after a tablet.. no matter how much moralist like to paint that picture. If you are caught acting violent under influence.. you loose the privilege and tough laws apply. Sounds a lot better as assuming. Just imagine this young males are more likely to commit rape.. we don't all lock them up before they commit the crime..by the drug logic we should as being a young male increases the risk of that crime so put him in jail before he proves the point. Ok I know you can choose not to use drugs but not choose not to be a young male.. but its an example.

But I doubt people will ever see eye to eye about this, but after years of suppression finally the times are changing.

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Drugs that increase violence in society. You mean alcohol?

anyone got a link to report a drug dealer in los . selling heroin plus ice to farangs, i do not agree with it, i never grassed anyone in my life but this idiot needs stopped and its well known what he is doing.

Edited February 23, 201511 yr by dirtycash

anyone got a link to report a drug dealer in los . selling heroin plus ice to farangs, i do not agree with it, i never grassed anyone in my life but this idiot needs stopped and its well known what he is doing.

I know quite a few people who sell drugs, not by choice by chance, I to don't like druggy s, but i do Value my life. I would not get involved,

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Do you drink? yes, I mean alcohol and do answer honestly.

I live opposite a family that deals and another family 2 houses down the road from us.

Its only a small village between Donsak and Suratthani, but there are numerous dealers !!

The police rock up occasionally but never find anything

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Do you drink? yes, I mean alcohol and do answer honestly.

No he does not.. I might not like his point of view but he is no hypocrite. Have had this discussion with him before and he told me he does not drink and I believe him.

caffeine, alcohol and tobacco: YAWN

are there any good drugs that are legal in thailand?

I remember anchoring out near Pattaya in 1979, Fishing poles were used to cast out gifts to the small boats and bundles of Thai Stick were hooked on. "The Good Ole Days"

I have a 4 year old dual citizen Thai Aussie son. Drug dealers, shoot them.

I have a 2 year old dual citizen Thai British son. Drug dealers, remove the need for them.

Legalise all drugs for adults, regulate distribution, and redirect the money saved on a pointless and unwinnable 'war', and the tax income gained, toward education regarding moderation and choices. Also fund detox and care for those that don't learn it where necessary - as with alcohol and tobacco.

Edited February 25, 201511 yr by rwdrwdrwd

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

sadly you seem unaware of which side of the line you fall.

I have a 2 year old dual citizen Thai British son. Drug dealers, remove the need for them.

Legalise all drugs for adults, regulate distribution, and redirect the money saved on a pointless and unwinnable 'war', and the tax income gained, toward education regarding moderation and choices.

Also fund detox and care for those that don't learn it where necessary - as with alcohol and tobacco.

Why should people who dislike drugs pay for idiots who make a conscientious derision to kill themselves, Fact Alcohol and drugs, and Tobacco kill. You choice but don't involve me

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Do you drink? yes, I mean alcohol and do answer honestly.

No. I do not drink alcohol at all. Nor do I smoke and nor do I take Viagra (questions someone else asked earlier).

Legalizing cannabis would probably remove a lot of the incentive to use more dangerous substances like yabba, or abuse alchohol

New study confirms (the obvious) that it's safer than alcohol or tobacco http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/new-study-suggests-risks-marijuana-use-have-been-overestimated

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Do you drink? yes, I mean alcohol and do answer honestly.

No he does not.. I might not like his point of view but he is no hypocrite. Have had this discussion with him before and he told me he does not drink and I believe him.

Thanks Rob.

I'm actually probably one of the most anti alcohol persons on the planet, don't drink it, can't stand the smell of liquor and can't stand listening to the waffle drunks go on with. I've dealt with no shortage of alcohol fuelled violence in my professional career and without a doubt it's one of the most costly and destructive substances on the planet. my wife is a non drinker too.

Of course there are always people that consume substances without causing any problems (Robs point) BUT they're in the minority imo and the mess of the masses blocks them out.

I do drink coffee (someone else's question), I'm not sure I'm at problem levels with it as I mostly consume2 a day, sometimes 3 but I never run amuck after doing so. No other prescription medication or otherwise with the exception of a paracetamol if I get a headache or something.

Countries around the world make huge $$$$$$ from taxing alcohol and cigarettes ...... But I wonder what the true costs of these 'legal' substances are? I don't see any need to add further substances to the list.

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Drugs that increase violence in society. You mean alcohol?

DEFINATELY !

Alcohol is the worst one.

Glad you agree. I don't drink, smoke or take other drugs, but I have been a "party animal" when I was younger: alcohol, pot, coke, speed, heroin, xtc, you name it I did it. Alcohol and speed are real killers imo. Cannabis just makes you lazy and slow, legalize it I say.

Edited February 26, 201511 yr by Mr Somtam

It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

Do you drink? yes, I mean alcohol and do answer honestly.

No he does not.. I might not like his point of view but he is no hypocrite. Have had this discussion with him before and he told me he does not drink and I believe him.

Thanks Rob.

I'm actually probably one of the most anti alcohol persons on the planet, don't drink it, can't stand the smell of liquor and can't stand listening to the waffle drunks go on with. I've dealt with no shortage of alcohol fuelled violence in my professional career and without a doubt it's one of the most costly and destructive substances on the planet. my wife is a non drinker too.

Of course there are always people that consume substances without causing any problems (Robs point) BUT they're in the minority imo and the mess of the masses blocks them out.

I do drink coffee (someone else's question), I'm not sure I'm at problem levels with it as I mostly consume2 a day, sometimes 3 but I never run amuck after doing so. No other prescription medication or otherwise with the exception of a paracetamol if I get a headache or something.

Countries around the world make huge $$$$$$ from taxing alcohol and cigarettes ...... But I wonder what the true costs of these 'legal' substances are? I don't see any need to add further substances to the list.

I don't agree actually that they are a minority.. I think its part of your views because you were a cop. You were always called when there was a problem. So you always saw people at their worst.

If you look at the huge amounts of drugs that are caught during transportation you can only imagine how much of the stuff is not caught. Then you have an idea of how much is being consumed. If the ones that consume drugs and don't cause troubles were a minority I can assure you every street would be full of junkies and every minute there would be a fight in every village or city.

I think the people causing trouble are a minority and there might be an increase (not even sure) but its the task of the police to get people for being a problem on drugs.. not for going after those that are not.

Anyway more and more countries and states (Alaska the latest) are making weed legal. They were thinking about making kratom legal here again and in the past they did not have a problem here with weed too. Anyway I always bring out my country as an example and so far nobody really goes into that discussion as its one they often loose.

The war on drugs has been a complete failure. Maybe the police are tired of knocking their heads against a wall.

Is there anywhere in the world where the war on drugs actually works?

Even in countries with the death penalty for drug related offenses doesn't act as an effective deterrent...

Maybe it's time to come up with a better solution.

I have a 2 year old dual citizen Thai British son. Drug dealers, remove the need for them.

Legalise all drugs for adults, regulate distribution, and redirect the money saved on a pointless and unwinnable 'war', and the tax income gained, toward education regarding moderation and choices.

Also fund detox and care for those that don't learn it where necessary - as with alcohol and tobacco.

Why should people who dislike drugs pay for idiots who make a conscientious derision to kill themselves, Fact Alcohol and drugs, and Tobacco kill. You choice but don't involve me

You already are, considerably more.

Every taxpayer

1 - Has funded a wholly unsuccesful international 'war' for the last 45 years

2 - Funds long term incarceration of simple users at an astronomic yearly cost

3 - Pays for vastly extravagant police numbers in order to enforce this 'war' (a number of whom, across the world, are in on the game)

4 - Pays far higher insurance premiums (and enjoys a lower quality of life) due to petty crime commited by addicts that pay 100 times the manufacturing cost for bad quality addiction-optimised substances

5 - Suffers the cost of the distribution of these substances by nefarious types that use the money to fund international terrorism among other activities.

And many more.

Official, regulated distribution and manufacture would remove each of those costs, and have a far smaller financial and social impact to the non drug user. It would also (as with the regulated tobacco and alcohol industry) create both jobs and tax revenue.

Edited February 26, 201511 yr by rwdrwdrwd

I have a 2 year old dual citizen Thai British son. Drug dealers, remove the need for them.

Legalise all drugs for adults, regulate distribution, and redirect the money saved on a pointless and unwinnable 'war', and the tax income gained, toward education regarding moderation and choices.

Also fund detox and care for those that don't learn it where necessary - as with alcohol and tobacco.

Why should people who dislike drugs pay for idiots who make a conscientious derision to kill themselves, Fact Alcohol and drugs, and Tobacco kill. You choice but don't involve me

You already are, considerably more.

Every taxpayer

1 - Has funded a wholly unsuccesful international 'war' for the last 45 years

2 - Funds long term incarceration of simple users at an astronomic yearly cost

3 - Pays for vastly extravagant police numbers in order to enforce this 'war' (a number of whom, across the world, are in on the game)

4 - Pays far higher insurance premiums (and enjoys a lower quality of life) due to petty crime commited by addicts that pay 100 times the manufacturing cost for bad quality addiction-optimised substances

5 - Suffers the cost of the distribution of these substances by nefarious types that use the money to fund international terrorism among other activities.

And many more.

Official, regulated distribution and manufacture would remove each of those costs, and have a far smaller financial and social impact to the non drug user. It would also (as with the regulated tobacco and alcohol industry) create both jobs and tax revenue.

Have to agree with this...

Does anyone actually believe the War on Drugs can ever 'win the war'?

By win, I mean that's it ... We won, no more drugs... No more war...

Of course not, so the reality is that there will always be drug users and drugs in the market place...

So if we all know that there will always be drugs in the market place, who would you prefer to run and regulate the market place?

Governments and government. Agencies that can regulate what goes into drugs and who can sell and consume and where they can be consumed?

Along with collecting huge tax revenues to fund re-jab and education and anti- drug messages

Or gangsters , terrorists, mafias and cartels? Who care for nothing other than making a buck to find their elicit businesses?

And legalizing doesn't mean the flood gate open... Still illegal to drive intoxicated, jobs can still screen and test employees if they want ... After all not allowed to get drunk on the job, even though alcohol is legal

And I don't know about you, but if heroin was legal... I ain't going out and buying any heroin...

Why, because I know how addictive and bad for you it is... And how do I know? From education and seeing what is has done to others...

But anyone who wants to do heroin now, can easily find it any where in the world ...

Also remember from when I was a teenager... Alcohol was legal and drugs illegal... But was a heck of a lot easier to buy drugs than alcohol...

Liquor stores would be fined and imprisoned if they sold to minors and as they were law abiding business men... They did not want to risk selling to minors...

But the illegal drug dealers had no such compunctions and would sell crack to a 5 year old if he had the money in his hand...

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It's interesting to see all the knowitalls on the thread that seem to think that all the drug related crime will disappear when drugs are legalised.

When will it sink in with the drug brigade that there's a lot more to drug related crime than just the current crimes of the substances being illegally made, grown and sold etc.

Do you really think that people will suddenly stop being addicted to these substances just because they are no longer illegal.

Of course then there's some on these pages that will support some drugs but not others.....they're the same people putting crapp on me because I stand solid in the face of these evil substances.

Do you crackpots really want your children and grandchildren being able to buy hard drugs at the corner store for use behind the playground toilets. Seriously.

What about the drugs that increase violence in society, like the ones UG stated above, live and let live you say?

Get real. Get a brain.

The world is slowly filling with idiots and they are starting to out number the decent folk.

I'm an ex police officer and dealt with many users so I think I can have an educated say on this.

While you are indeed correct, a large number of crimes such as theft/ fraud/ robbery can be attributed to drug addiction the arguement to legalise drugs would be that these people are addicts even though it's illegal- if drugs were legalised and controlled (just as Alcohol and Tobacco is) then the drugs would be cleaner, cheaper, those addicted would be easier to monitor than having it sold and consumed in the shadows. The taxation from such drugs could be used to help those who are hard core users, the criminal element would be greatly reduced (how many Mexicans would that save?) and the attraction to many would be decreased as it would no longer be illegal.

In my time in the police I arrested more violent drunks than people comitting crime because of "illegal" drugs.