Sangha Supreme Council looks favourably on Dhammachayo

[Lite Beer]

Sangha Supreme Council looks favourably on Dhammachayo
THE NATION

Phra Dhammachayo

BANGKOK: -- THE SANGHA Supreme Council yesterday decided not to take further action against Phra Dhammachayo, the abbot of Dhammakaya Temple, after the late Supreme Patriarch commanded in 1999 he be defrocked over a number of incidents including him owning the temple's land.

Phra Phrom Methi, the council's spokesman, said Phra Dhammachayo seemed to act with no ill intent and the issue was old news, with the country now undergoing a reconciliation process.

"The disciplines of Buddhist monks according to the Tripitaka are based on actual intent," he said.

Department of Special Investigation director-general Suwanna Suwannajutha said on Thursday that the DSI would summon Phra Dhammachayo if transaction details showed he received money from a key suspect in the Credit Union Khlong Chan embezzlement case.

The temple reportedly barred media members from entering its compound yesterday and refused to give interviews.

Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha said on Thursday that the Office of National Buddhism was trying to determine whether Phra Dhammachayo's monkhood had been invalidated or he had received money from the aforementioned key suspect.

The monk was indicted over the embezzlement of Bt959 million in assets donated to the temple nine years ago, but public prosecutors dropped this case after he pledged to return the assets to the temple.

Recent news reports stated that the Dhammakaya Temple had agreed to return Bt714 million "donated" to it by Credit Union Khlong Chan after the new post-coup DSI management took over the case from police, who had made little progress in the past few months despite a large number of petitions being filed by victims.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Sangha-Supreme-Council-looks-favourably-on-Dhammac-30254577.html

-- The Nation 2015-02-21

[englishoak]

Sigh ! another missed opportunity to show corruption and crime donst pay................ well done THE SANGHA Supreme Council I bet the late Supreme Patriarch is proud of you for being just like the rest of the place..... corrupt. Just goes to show wait around long enough and youll eventually find someone you can pay off

After all forgiveness is the path to enlightenment............. especially if your a thieving dodgy abbot.

[zaphod reborn]

I don't know who is more disgraceful in this case: the monk or the police.

[Robby nz]

BKK Post this morning says they are now not going to give beck the 700odd million as it has already been spent on buildings.

AMLO also says that they have no authority to seize anything from a temple as they would from an individual or company.

Edited February 20, 2015 by Robby nz

[Pimay1]

char·la·tan

ˈSHärlədən,ˈSHärlətn/

noun

noun: charlatan; plural noun: charlatans

a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill; a fraud.

synonyms: quack, sham, fraud, fake, impostor, hoaxer, cheat, deceiver, double-dealer, swindler, fraudster, mountebank;

informalphony, shark, con man, con artist, scam artist, flimflammer, bunco artist, snake oil salesman;

datedconfidence man/woman

[arthurboy]

Interesting connections and weasel dealings in this convoluted case. On Monday, Klong Chan customers were invited to register their account details with a group formed by disgruntled customers at DSI HQ at Chang Wattana to pass on to the DSI.

The DSI have promised to close the case blah blah within three months.

Given the fact that account registration was done in 2013 and 2014 - for the previous DSI team do do absolutely nothing - and given the influential connections and convoluted dealings in this criminal fiasco, this will drag on forever. In short, I believe that the (small) people will receive nothing.

It seems that the incumbent abbot of Dhammachayo temple and some of his sect have - shall we say - their backs well and truly covered.

[rametindallas]

Sangha Supreme Council looks favourably on Dhammachayo

In Thailand, Rich people are often looked on favorably. He must have good Karma. This is a cult of money and they are selling salvation to the hopelessly stupid.

[SABloke]

I don't know who is more disgraceful in this case: the monk or the police.

The Sangha Supreme Council takes the award

[jaidam]

An unfortunate coincidence. Temple has missing 700 million baht, and the Sangha Supreme just made a utterly self damaging, logic defying decision. I'm sure there are observers of this scam putting 1 and 1 together and drawing some damning conclusions.

[newatthis]

"Phra Phrom Methi, the council's spokesman, said Phra Dhammachayo seemed to act with no ill intent and the issue was old news, with the country now undergoing a reconciliation process."

Maybe M/s Yingluck would be thinking: "I wish my case could be heard before the Sangha Supreme Council."

[halloween]

I suppose it's not the right thing to ask to see the B700 million buildings and the builders' receipts.

I await the Bin-boy's effort to defend this, probably by condemning the junta's intrusion into religious affairs.

Edited February 21, 2015 by halloween

[Srikcir]

Buddhist misbehavor is why there must be a Department of Religious Affairs in the Buddhist Thai government. The nation can't trust some religious council to take necessary corrective action.

But there IS a Department of Religious Affairs that is responsible to promote and protect national Buddhism. Not very effective I guess except to fund Buddhist temples and senior Buddhist phras.

[Pimay1]

Buddhist misbehavor is why there must be a Department of Religious Affairs in the Buddhist Thai government. The nation can't trust some religious council to take necessary corrective action.

But there IS a Department of Religious Affairs that is responsible to promote and protect national Buddhism. Not very effective I guess except to fund Buddhist temples and senior Buddhist phras.

religious council. Foxes guarding the hen house comes to mind.

[Lite Beer]

Troops deployed at Paknam Bhasicharoen as activist monk urging boycott of Sangkha Council

BANGKOK: -- Troops and police were deployed Saturday morning at Wat Pakam Bhasicharoen to maintain peace and order after the activist abbot Buddha-issara called on all Buddhists to boycott the Sangkha Buddhism Council for its ruling yesterday to confirm the monkhood status of Phra Dhammachayo, abbot of the Dhammakaya temple.

Phra Buddha-issara, the abbot of Wat Or-noi in Nakhon Pathom, posted on his Facebook calling on all Buddhists to boycott the supreme Buddhism council when it did not defrock Phra Dhammachayo on alleged embezzlement charge pressed on him a decade ago.

“Stop offering alms, show no respect to them, and don’t speak to them” were what the activist abbot called, and urged all Buddhists to gather at Wat Pakam Bhasicharoen to protest.

By noon today the activist monk arrived at the Paknam Bhasicharoen temple with a number of followers and a basket of offerings to Phra Phrommoli, a member of the council, and the assistant to acting supreme patriarch His Holiness Somdet Phramaharatchamangkhlachan.

Phra Buddha-issara reportedly handed over a petition to the senior monk voicing disagreement to the ruling of the Sangkha Council which is chaired by the acting Supreme Patriarch who is also abbot of Wat Paknam Bhasicharoen.

There was no untoward incident during the peaceful meeting.

The activist abbot of Wat Or-noi later delivered the basket he brought as offering to the assistant to the acting supreme patriarch before returning to his temple.

The offerings included a pair of slippers, a stone mortar, underpants, and dok mai chan ( artificial bouquet for cremation ceremony).

The council’s ruling yesterday was a reconfirmation of the ruling made in 2000 which reaffirms Phra Dhammachayo’s monkhood status.

Yesterday, the council’s spokesman and member Phra Prommethi, pleaded with all parties concerned not to raise Phra Dhammachayo’s issue for discussion again pointing that the country is in the process of reconciliation.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/troops-deployed-paknam-bhasicharoen-activist-monk-urging-boycott-sangkha-council

-- Thai PBS 2015-02-21

[FangFerang]

This latest news about the current government clearly shows the long-term agenda of the junta and their puppet masters.

Where is djjamie when we need him?

Temple assets are State property in Thailand. The State is the junta. The junta failed miserably to adjust anyone's attitude on this one, except the judges on the Council (like the courts they all came pre-adjusted).

Edited February 21, 2015 by FangFerang

[Docno]

Troops deployed at Paknam Bhasicharoen as activist monk urging boycott of Sangkha Council

I wonder when Mr Buddha-Issara's time will come to face 'justice' in front of the Sangha. After all, this is the same 'monk' who led political protests against a sitting government, interrogated police officers who had been beaten by his henchmen, and gleefully counted cash given to him by a hotel that had been intimidated by his mob into making a 'donation'. I seem to recall that an arrest warrant had been prepared for him (after a gun battle between his secular followers and some red shirts?), but I guess in the interests of reconciliation it's all been forgotten...

[Robby nz]

This latest news about the current government clearly shows the long-term agenda of the junta and their puppet masters.

Where is djjamie when we need him?

Temple assets are State property in Thailand. The State is the junta. The junta failed miserably to adjust anyone's attitude on this one, except the judges on the Council (like the courts they all came pre-adjusted).

Where does the "Current Government" fit in to this extension of a case from 2000 ?

If you had bothered to read before posting your pile of red cow manure you would see that this is the Buddhist Supreme Council which has made this (flawed) decision and not the present Govt.

Temple assets are temple property and can not be touched by the state, the AMLO has said so only this morning in the BKK Post.

If you want to say otherwise then please post a link.

Try to get over your hate it is doing you or no one else any good.

Edited February 21, 2015 by Robby nz

[clockman]

Like a soap opera! Another area that needs close scrutiny. But! T.I.T.

[clockman]

I was in the Promenada shopping mall. Chiang Mai. And observed two men in orange robes. Enjoying a coffee, and playing with there tablet computers! Religion embracing the modern world!

[Robby nz]

Troops deployed at Paknam Bhasicharoen as activist monk urging boycott of Sangkha Council

I wonder when Mr Buddha-Issara's time will come to face 'justice' in front of the Sangha. After all, this is the same 'monk' who led political protests against a sitting government, interrogated police officers who had been beaten by his henchmen, and gleefully counted cash given to him by a hotel that had been intimidated by his mob into making a 'donation'. I seem to recall that an arrest warrant had been prepared for him (after a gun battle between his secular followers and some red shirts?), but I guess in the interests of reconciliation it's all been forgotten...

Perhaps they could also bring to justice those who attacked his dwelling : http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/tag/wat-ornoi-temple

May 13, 2014 8:29 pm

Gunmen wielding M 16 assault rifles opened fire at the residence of Luang Poo Buddha Isara inside Wat Ornoi temple in Nakhon Pathom late Monday night but caused no injury to life.

Or even those who planted the bomb at the gates of his temple :

May 12, 2014 3:20 pm

Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) police on Monday destroyed a home made explosive found hidden at the gate of a temple in Nakhon Pathom province.

You should note that the good Buddhist reds went to his temple and set fire to the monks dwellings, threw feces on the temple gates and raced around the temple grounds on motorbikes shooting.

Incidentally he did not intimidate the Thaksin owned hotel into giving a donation.

The farmers representatives who came to BKK had booked into the hotel and paid for rooms, when the hotel found out who it was that was to stay there they refused to let them stay and refused to refund the money paid.

Buddha Issara went there and confronted the hotel management on the farmers behalf and got the money paid plus percentage for the farmers trouble. This money was given to the farmers representatives.

You should note that the farmers who were denied access to the hotel were supposed to be Thaksins grass roots supporters.

[Robby nz]

I was in the Promenada shopping mall. Chiang Mai. And observed two men in orange robes. Enjoying a coffee, and playing with there tablet computers! Religion embracing the modern world!

I can tell you I also have personal experience of what can only be called horror stories of monks behavior, including sex, but that does not excuse those who would label all monks the same.

We see some of the worst cases now coming to light, which has not happened in the past, and in this case the Supreme Council appears to be somewhat lacking in its job.

[Suffinator]

Thailand ... corrupt from the very bottom to the very top. You've got more chance of finding cheese on the moon than you have of ever changing Thainess.

[Equalizer]

The disciplines of Buddhist monks according to the Tripitaka are based on actual intent," he said. Tripitaka was one of my favorite characters in Monkey.

[Smokemachine]

"Yesterday, the council’s spokesman and member Phra Prommethi, pleaded with all parties concerned not to raise Phra Dhammachayo’s issue for discussion again pointing that the country is in the process of reconciliation."

All right,guys. Anyone has a issue now, regarding criminal, fraud, corruption, domestic issue, please faster deal with it accordingly. Now is reconciliation time. Everyone will be fine now inside the reconciliation timeframe. After the reconciliation period ends, not sure how your case will ends. Hurry now.

[Enoon]

Thai Buddhism needs someone to nail "Ninety-Five Theses" to it's door.

[Godders]

If ever a country needed a Henry VIII, famed for abolishing the monasteries, this is it.

[robblok]

Troops deployed at Paknam Bhasicharoen as activist monk urging boycott of Sangkha Council

I wonder when Mr Buddha-Issara's time will come to face 'justice' in front of the Sangha. After all, this is the same 'monk' who led political protests against a sitting government, interrogated police officers who had been beaten by his henchmen, and gleefully counted cash given to him by a hotel that had been intimidated by his mob into making a 'donation'. I seem to recall that an arrest warrant had been prepared for him (after a gun battle between his secular followers and some red shirts?), but I guess in the interests of reconciliation it's all been forgotten...

Just shows how he feels about corruption.. not just YL her corruption. Seems he is a good guy true to his faith.

[Robby nz]

Troops deployed at Paknam Bhasicharoen as activist monk urging boycott of Sangkha Council

I wonder when Mr Buddha-Issara's time will come to face 'justice' in front of the Sangha. After all, this is the same 'monk' who led political protests against a sitting government, interrogated police officers who had been beaten by his henchmen, and gleefully counted cash given to him by a hotel that had been intimidated by his mob into making a 'donation'. I seem to recall that an arrest warrant had been prepared for him (after a gun battle between his secular followers and some red shirts?), but I guess in the interests of reconciliation it's all been forgotten...

Just shows how he feels about corruption.. not just YL her corruption. Seems he is a good guy true to his faith.

He is one of the good ones all right.... Just that his detractors don't know about his work with poor terminal cancer patients who cant afford hospital care.

Neither do they don't know that during the protests he put a lot of time and money into helping poor farmers that PT has somehow forgotten to pay.

All they can see is that he defied their beloved Yingluck and out thought and outmaneuvered the reds who had no answer but to resort to violence with bullets and bombs.

Which is unfortunate for it meant that he, like Suthep, was forced to employ guards to protect his group and after several had been shot and injured they resorted to carrying weapons of their own.

Now if the police had done their job there would have been no need for guards let alone armed ones.

It is also unfortunate that under the super sleuths Tarit and Chalerm the police could never find any of those who had been shooting and lobbing grenades at the protesters, even though Chalerm displayed an uncanny ability to predict when attacks would occur.

They did however manage to apprehend some of the guards carrying weapons.

[khaowong1]

I was in the Promenada shopping mall. Chiang Mai. And observed two men in orange robes. Enjoying a coffee, and playing with there tablet computers! Religion embracing the modern world!

And this bothers you how?

[Lupatria]

With the news regarding "monks & abbots" of the last couple of months I just ask myself wouldn't this country be better off without them?

Where I come from they have a special name for organisations packed with drinking, drugging, fraudsters, scamming, and murdering members. Take a wild guess and fill the blank:.............. (To give you a hint- its also the name of an archipelo off the east African coast)