Lite Beer Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Russia keen to buy more farm products from Thailand BANGKOK: -- Russia has expressed its interest to purchase more farm products such as rice and rubber from Thailand. Offer to buy from Thailand was made during a courtesy call on the Thai Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan at the Government House by Russian Ambassador to Thailand Mr Kirill Mikhailovich Barsky yesterday.At the same time, Thailand also proposed to form a joint panel to discuss the plan and suggested the sales should be made on a government-to-government basis for transparency.The courtesy call was made as Thailand and Russia are set to celebrate the 120th anniversary of their diplomatic relations in 2016.During the meeting, the two sides discussed cooperation on trade and investment.They agreed to foster bilateral military cooperation through exchange visits of military personnel between the two countries at various levels.Gen Prawit confirmed that he would attend an international meeting on anti-terrorism to be hosted by Russia in April.He also thanked Russia for understanding Thailand’s situations and for supporting the interim government’s roadmap to achieve national reconciliation and its reform efforts to help Thailand return to democracy. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/russia-keen-buy-farm-products-thailand -- Thai PBS 2015-02-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Just get paid in hard currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Only because no one else will sell to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfree2 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Yes, get some of that rice before it disappears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 A few off topic posts have been removed from view. Amazing how the US gets brought into topics (negatively) that have nothing to do with the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiolo Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 High Thai baht , low value rouble...Got to be expensive for the R ussians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Got to be lots of low grade rice laying around warehouses for dear Mr. Putin. Can even accept trade for Russian vodka and caviar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StasD Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Only because no one else will sell to them You made me sad. I think I must drink vodka and eat caviar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowman Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Russia ain't got no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I've been trying to open relations with a company in Russia who have goods I will buy if we could just get communications opened to discuss the matter I send emails in English with a Russian translation, told them I am Australian living in Thailand.....maybe I should get the wife to do it. Email em with Thai text! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegum Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Gov to Gov transactions 4 more transparency? First China now Russia? Betting the wrong horse? At least they have the same kind of corruption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 "They agreed to foster bilateral military cooperation through exchange visits of military personnel between the two countries at various levels." First China, now Russia. Why in the world does Thailand need to align itself militarily with the Chinese AND Russians? Thailand faces NO external security threats. Thailand has no mutual borders with either country. It has by extension common seas and air space with China but absolutely no geographical commonality with Russia. Maybe getting the backing of two of the nations on the permanent UN security council though is a good idea if Prayuth is planning some drastic military operations in Thailand. He might need to forestall possible UN resolutions or actions."Gen Prawit confirmed that he would attend an international meeting on anti-terrorism to be hosted by Russia in April." What timing by the Russians. They see every Ukrainian soldier as a "terrorist." Perhaps the meeting will occur in Crimea, Russia and Prawit can help Putin understand Thailand's circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowman Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 "They agreed to foster bilateral military cooperation through exchange visits of military personnel between the two countries at various levels." First China, now Russia. Why in the world does Thailand need to align itself militarily with the Chinese AND Russians? Thailand faces NO external security threats. Thailand has no mutual borders with either country. It has by extension common seas and air space with China but absolutely no geographical commonality with Russia. Maybe getting the backing of two of the nations on the permanent UN security council though is a good idea if Prayuth is planning some drastic military operations in Thailand. He might need to forestall possible UN resolutions or actions. "Gen Prawit confirmed that he would attend an international meeting on anti-terrorism to be hosted by Russia in April." What timing by the Russians. They see every Ukrainian soldier as a "terrorist." Perhaps the meeting will occur in Crimea, Russia and Prawit can help Putin understand Thailand's circumstance. First China, now Russia. Why in the world does Thailand need to align itself militarily with the Chinese AND Russians? Thailand faces NO external security threats. Thailand has no mutual borders with either country. It has by extension common seas and air space with China but absolutely no geographical commonality with Russia. Because the civilised world doesn't accept the coup. Thailand has no friends at the moment and beggars can't be choosers: Russia, North Korea and China - sooner the Generals are gone the better it will be for all Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Russia actually has very little debt, their economy is OK despite low oil prices, unlike many western countries. What the Wall St criminal's rating agencies downgraded them, big deal. Now if the silly money printing Euros stupidly agree to cancel exports to keep their US money printing masters happy then that would seem like a good opportunity for Thailand to step in and make a few baht. As to no one liking the Thai military government I watched the generals speech the other night and he seemed very sincere and made a lot of sense. The only ones complaining would be those wanting a corrupt "democratic" puppet that does their bidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfree2 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Russia actually has very little debt, their economy is OK despite low oil prices, unlike many western countries. Please explain how having your entire economy based on oil production is anywhere near a sound fiscal position? The Russian government has put price controls on Vodka suppliers as the cost of goods has skyrocketed. Which school of economic thought describes an economy with price controls as "OK"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 hehe this is beginning to get interesting, Russia is running out of options China will do business with anyone and Thailand is being ignored and looking for anyone who will smile and receive them, all are looking to make a few quid, Russia and China would dearly love to sell Thailand arms and the generals here do like their big boy toys and useless purchases to look cool. I cant imagine Russia will find the baht and rouble exchange much cop for the near future but it has little choices at the moment, neither does Thailand and its looking like the EU trade might go south if Thailand dosnt match up to standards which its been warned more than once about already. I wonder how trade partners that are supporting sanctions on Russia will view any trade move by Thailand, I expect the moment trade includes anything military stuff will happen. An absolute monarchy ( or as good as ) cozying up to communist ( or as good as ) regimes, not very compatible systems. I wonder if Thais realise what those two did to their royal rulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Anniversary next year! That's great thing to celebrate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 A few off topic posts have been removed from view. Amazing how the US gets brought into topics (negatively) that have nothing to do with the US. So there is another one out there!! I thought I was the only one Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 With the slide of the rubble I doubt that they will be able to buy many farm products from Thailand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 If Thailand does not wish to encourage further negative perceptions from the EU, it will not consider engaging in "sanction busting" transactions. Russia has blocked the import of food from the EU in retaliation to the sanctions imposed by the EU. Hopefully, the Thai military administration understands the implications of increasing trade now, in the middle of an illegal invasion of the Ukraine. Both Germany and France have invested heavily in a "truce" between the Ukraine and Russia and its proxy militia. Unfortunately, the Russians have not respected the "truce". The end result is that the Germans and French are angry. Both France and Germany are major foreign policy leaders in the EU and the German foreign ministry was involved heavily in the setting of the EU's common position on the Thailand coup and human rights. Canada and Poland have the toughest stance on the Ukraine invasion and have been lobbying the rest of the world hard to be tougher. The Poles are now joined by the free Baltic states in eexpressing their concern about Russia's military expansionism, and both Sweden and Norway are concerned. Does Thailand really want to upset Sweden and Norway, two of its valuable tourist visitor sources? The USA is under pressure to do more. Even the Chinese have not been supportive of Russia on this issue, although they have stayed quiet. I expect that if Thailand proceeds with the activity it will learn what a cold shoulder in foreign relations can and will do. Someone with an understanding of international relations needs to explain to the General what will happen if the EU is pissed off. There will be no more smiles and reluctant acceptance of Thailand's activities .It will instead translate into, some strong messages that should get the attention of the General. Putin is pushing the envelope daring his European and Baltic neighbors to have a regional confrontation, and Thailand now is considering cosying up to the Russians. Not very bright is it? I will be surprised if this even happens as the Russians are notorious for not paying their bills in a timely manner. The Thais will want their money up front, and the Russians don't do that. In the meantime, Thailand has grabbed some attention again, for all the wrong reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfree2 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The funny thing is that, as others astute posters have mentioned, it won't be the Americans who will confront the Thais. It will most likely be the Germans via the pseudo political entity known as the EU which will first warn and then impose sanctions on Thailand. It's really just a game of magical chairs. The French, German, Dutch, et al. are furious with Russia and have called in their chips with the US to that end. The US is mildly ticked off Thailand and might, over a few beer at the Berlin embassy, ask the Germans to slap some sense into this "administration." I'd say take away the BMWs and Mercedes Benz and the Thais will straighten up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Russia actually has very little debt, their economy is OK despite low oil prices, unlike many western countries. Well, if you think this figure is 'very little', then I guess we must be living on different planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Russia actually has very little debt, their economy is OK despite low oil prices, unlike many western countries. Well, if you think this figure is 'very little', then I guess we must be living on different planets. It is very little compared to the debt per GDP ratio. It is 11% Look at Australia. Quite a robust country economically and they are double this at 22% Debt per citizen in Russia is $1 700usd odd a person. In Australia it is $18 000usd. "Very Little" is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundee48 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> If Thailand does not wish to encourage further negative perceptions from the EU, it will not consider engaging in "sanction busting" transactions. Russia has blocked the import of food from the EU in retaliation to the sanctions imposed by the EU. Hopefully, the Thai military administration understands the implications of increasing trade now, in the middle of an illegal invasion of the Ukraine. Both Germany and France have invested heavily in a "truce" between the Ukraine and Russia and its proxy militia. Unfortunately, the Russians have not respected the "truce". The end result is that the Germans and French are angry. Both France and Germany are major foreign policy leaders in the EU and the German foreign ministry was involved heavily in the setting of the EU's common position on the Thailand coup and human rights. Canada and Poland have the toughest stance on the Ukraine invasion and have been lobbying the rest of the world hard to be tougher. The Poles are now joined by the free Baltic states in eexpressing their concern about Russia's military expansionism, and both Sweden and Norway are concerned. Does Thailand really want to upset Sweden and Norway, two of its valuable tourist visitor sources? The USA is under pressure to do more. Even the Chinese have not been supportive of Russia on this issue, although they have stayed quiet. I expect that if Thailand proceeds with the activity it will learn what a cold shoulder in foreign relations can and will do. Someone with an understanding of international relations needs to explain to the General what will happen if the EU is pissed off. There will be no more smiles and reluctant acceptance of Thailand's activities .It will instead translate into, some strong messages that should get the attention of the General. Putin is pushing the envelope daring his European and Baltic neighbors to have a regional confrontation, and Thailand now is considering cosying up to the Russians. Not very bright is it? I will be surprised if this even happens as the Russians are notorious for not paying their bills in a timely manner. The Thais will want their money up front, and the Russians don't do that. In the meantime, Thailand has grabbed some attention again, for all the wrong reasons. Very good synopsis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It hardly makes sense with the extremely high baht and a low ruble how can they afford Thai produce. It is a wonder that Thailand is exporting anything at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maramook Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Russia actually has very little debt, their economy is OK despite low oil prices, unlike many western countries. Please explain how having your entire economy based on oil production is anywhere near a sound fiscal position? The Russian government has put price controls on Vodka suppliers as the cost of goods has skyrocketed. Which school of economic thought describes an economy with price controls as "OK"? You must be crazy if you think that 9% is "...entire economy based on oil production" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Russia actually has very little debt, their economy is OK despite low oil prices, unlike many western countries. Please explain how having your entire economy based on oil production is anywhere near a sound fiscal position? The Russian government has put price controls on Vodka suppliers as the cost of goods has skyrocketed. Which school of economic thought describes an economy with price controls as "OK"? You must be crazy if you think that 9% is "...entire economy based on oil production" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia Russia is unusual among the major economies in the way it relies on energy revenues to drive growth. The country has an abundance of natural resources, including oil, natural gas and precious metals, which make up a major share of Russia's exports. As of 2012 oil and gas sector accounted for 16% of the GDP, 52% of federal budget revenues and over 70% of total exports.[25][26] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Sorry, but English language only, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maramook Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Only because no one else will sell to them Of course. How about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS ? - it's already half of the population of the planet And don't forget that sanctions not only hurt Russia, but EU also are being hurt. And it's a big question who suffers more. http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/european-union-continues-to-suffer-from-western-sanctions-against-russia/ http://www.euractiv.com/sections/europes-east/bulgaria-says-it-suffering-eu-sanctions-russia-310612 http://www.france24.com/en/20150209-russia-sanctions-have-cost-eu-21-bn-euros-says-spain/ Edited February 22, 2015 by Maramook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) If Thailand does not wish to encourage further negative perceptions from the EU, it will not consider engaging in "sanction busting" transactions. Russia has blocked the import of food from the EU in retaliation to the sanctions imposed by the EU. Hopefully, the Thai military administration understands the implications of increasing trade now, in the middle of an illegal invasion of the Ukraine. Both Germany and France have invested heavily in a "truce" between the Ukraine and Russia and its proxy militia. Unfortunately, the Russians have not respected the "truce". The end result is that the Germans and French are angry. Both France and Germany are major foreign policy leaders in the EU and the German foreign ministry was involved heavily in the setting of the EU's common position on the Thailand coup and human rights. Canada and Poland have the toughest stance on the Ukraine invasion and have been lobbying the rest of the world hard to be tougher. The Poles are now joined by the free Baltic states in eexpressing their concern about Russia's military expansionism, and both Sweden and Norway are concerned. Does Thailand really want to upset Sweden and Norway, two of its valuable tourist visitor sources? The USA is under pressure to do more. Even the Chinese have not been supportive of Russia on this issue, although they have stayed quiet. I expect that if Thailand proceeds with the activity it will learn what a cold shoulder in foreign relations can and will do. Someone with an understanding of international relations needs to explain to the General what will happen if the EU is pissed off. There will be no more smiles and reluctant acceptance of Thailand's activities .It will instead translate into, some strong messages that should get the attention of the General. Putin is pushing the envelope daring his European and Baltic neighbors to have a regional confrontation, and Thailand now is considering cosying up to the Russians. Not very bright is it? I will be surprised if this even happens as the Russians are notorious for not paying their bills in a timely manner. The Thais will want their money up front, and the Russians don't do that. In the meantime, Thailand has grabbed some attention again, for all the wrong reasons. Hello - would that be the same France that has expressed keen interest in Thailand's railway building projects and the same Germany who recently signed a much vaunted MOU on technical college and workplace skills development with Thailand? One thing about the EU, it's parliament and council of ministers takes hypocrisy and self national interest to new highs. The EU rarely speaks or acts with one voice for long because they rarely agree among themselves. Support a coup in Egypt and Ukraine but not in Thailand. France was happy to sell warships to Russia - and only suspended the deal very reluctantly when its EU "partners" applied extreme pressure. In fact, over the years France has happily sold weapons to anyone with some form of acceptable payment. Still we can rely on the UK and "Dave's" government to make sure everyone toes the line. Whoops, no. The Lord Mayor of London has just visited Thailand to promote business. Guess they forgot to tell him he was meeting with wicked coup members and shouldn't come. No wonder Putin is chancing his arm - sadly, the EU is nothing without American muscle. Edited February 22, 2015 by Baerboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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