webfact Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 REGIONAL PERSPECTIVEAsean must be prudent on Islamic StateKavi ChongkittavornThe NationBANGKOK: -- With a few hundred fighters from Indonesia, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines active in the Islamic States (IS) in Syria and Iraq, Asean must take concrete action now to tackle the issue of their activities head-on and in comprehensive ways.Since the last Asean Summit in Nay Pyi Taw, Myanmar, the grouping has issued four statements in less than four months on the rise of IS - a record in responding to a specific problem - reiterating its determination to fight against violent extremism and promote moderation.At the retreat last month, Asean issued a statement, which said the ministers "condemn and deplore the violence and brutality committed by extremist organisations and radical groups in Iraq and Syria, whose impact increasingly poses a threat to all regions of the world."With a 47 per cent Muslim population among the 625-million Asean people, the grouping must form sustainable and effective policies to prevent its citizens from joining the IS and stemming extremism and militancy.That would mean political, socio-economic and other issues must be addressed holistically. The role of civil society, youth organisations and media, social media in particular, are pivotal and must be looped in otherwise the government efforts would be in vain. In Asean, Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei are predominately Muslim. Over half of Asean citizens are Malay-speakers.Given the Asean diversity and individualism, it is also difficult to keep track of their citizens overseas. Asean is very concerned that the returned fighters could spread their experience around the region. Worse, they could use some of the grouping's territory for training grounds. Currently, the Philippines has the largest number of overseas workers in the Middle East. The numbers over there of other members such as Indonesia and Thailand, which used to be huge, have dwindled. There are at least 300,000 Thai-Malay dual citizenship holders criss-crossing the border. The pool of Asean students studying in the Middle East is large - but fortunately most return home after graduation.For the time being, each Asean member has its own plan to fight violent extremists, especially the home-grown groups. Their cooperation is limited to intelligence exchanges and some training. More diversified cooperation should be encouraged. For instance, Singapore has a good programme on de-radicalisation of extremists. Indonesia and Malaysia are engaging in inter-faith dialogue with various moderate Muslim groups. Thailand is struggling with its own preventive measures to ensure that the IS ideology would not penetrate into its southern provinces.What Asean needs to do now is work together and come up with common and doable action plans that leave no holes for the IS to take advantage of. Malaysia, the current chair of Asean, must take the lead in forceful ways. All best practices deriving from the local environment must be studied and considered whether they could be shared, retaining the unique circumstances of each Asean member. Kuala Lumpur is planning a ministerial meeting on violent extremists in October.As a regional peacemaker, Malaysia has been active in the peace process in Mindanao, the Philippines. Current efforts in the southern provinces of Thailand are also still a work in progress. It remains to be seen how the chair will utilise the Global Moderate Movement, which morphed into an Asean agenda in 2011, as a key tool in promoting moderation and inter-faith dialogue.Following the September 2001 attacks, Asean has been identified as the second front for the fight against the terrorists, which prompted Asean members to work together. The Asean Convention on Counter Terrorism (2007) was completed in 90 days as the Asean leaders pushed for such a challenging document. Implementation so far has been unsatisfactory.The rise of IS and new recruitment inside the region has forced the policy-makers to dwell on domestic conditions and find ways to mitigate them. In the past decade, for instance, there have been numerous incidents of religious intolerance and prosecution in the member states, especially in Myanmar, Indonesia and Malaysia. According to the latest study by the Jakarta-based Human Rights Resource Centre, Asean has to do more to promote religious tolerance, which has been its hallmark. The study concluded there is a close connection between violent religious persecution and conflict, which affects more than religious communities.Asean's five-decade history has shown that whenever the grouping is faced with external challenges - in whatever form - its leaders would come together and form common coalitions. The Paris Peace Agreement, the Chiang Mai Initiative, the SARS campaign and the Convention to Counter Terrorism were testimonies to their joint efforts that made the grouping what it is today. No doubt the IS is now the grouping's biggest challenge.To be effective, any resolve must be addressed as an Asean issue, even though half of the grouping is more active than the other half. Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, the Philippines and Singapore have their counter-extremist plans but still lack coordination. Other members such as Cambodia, which used to be a transit point for terrorists, must also be brought in. Porous borders and inefficient controls with non-Southeast Asia - as well as those within Asean members - allow undetected movement of potential extremists.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Asean-must-be-prudent-on-Islamic-State-30254658.html-- The Nation 2015-02-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 With Asean having islamic states as members, they are in the door already. Too late. 50 years from now, Thailand will be islamic, just like France and the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Stranger Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 With Asean having islamic states as members, they are in the door already. Too late. 50 years from now, Thailand will be islamic, just like France and the UK. http://static.thaivisa.com/forum//public/style_emoticons/ default/thumbsup.gif Add Canada to that list. I'll disagree that Thailand will not go this way as they're not afraid like the west. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think they are getting a bit carried away here,if you look at IS map of the boundarys of their crackpot caliphate would appear if they swept all before them [like Israel or Iran will just roll over],it does not include southeast asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always18 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I seem to recall a Thai government spokesman a couple of years ago saying something to the effect that terrorists would never attack Thailand as Thailand is friendly with all other nations.........................sooooo, nothing to worry about then, really.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think they are getting a bit carried away here,if you look at IS map of the boundarys of their crackpot caliphate would appear if they swept all before them [like Israel or Iran will just roll over],it does not include southeast asia. I'm not so sure.......the IS seems to have way of recruiting globally....financed with huge "donations", it seems from the Gulf states and an interminable desire to expand..... Southern Philipines, southern Thailand, Indonesia (Aceh most definately) and Malaysia would without doubt, have many supporters among their populations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomross46 Posted February 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2015 Every time the government fights violent extremists, the International Human Rights left wing liberals scream human rights violation. They say nothing about the killing of teachers, murder of school children or car bombs. It is time to go on the offensive, or else there will be an increase of terrorist activities, The extremist are not limited to IS, but also those controlled by organized crime family's. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FangFerang Posted February 23, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2015 Humanely dealing with an inhumane enemy is Hobson's Choice. Some people only respect force and aggression, which is a bitter necessity. I am a left wing liberal. I also own several guns and hold a black belt in Taekwondo that I earned in Korea. I believe in peace, but keep my defenses strong. These are not human beings. They are monsters. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 "Current efforts in the southern provinces of Thailand are also still a work in progress." General Prayut promised peace with Malay-Thai insurgents by end of 2015. So ISIL threat does not exist in Thailand. The Thai military has won the "hearts and minds" of the MT people by forcibly reminding them they must owe their allegiance to the Buddhist government. What can possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 It like they shall take over Asean I doubt this will be good for tourism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Humanely dealing with an inhumane enemy is Hobson's Choice. Some people only respect force and aggression, which is a bitter necessity. I am a left wing liberal. I also own several guns and hold a black belt in Taekwondo that I earned in Korea. I believe in peace, but keep my defenses strong. These are not human beings. They are monsters. several guns..how old are you...????...........so are they in thailand with you or dont you live here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Humanely dealing with an inhumane enemy is Hobson's Choice. Some people only respect force and aggression, which is a bitter necessity. I am a left wing liberal. I also own several guns and hold a black belt in Taekwondo that I earned in Korea. I believe in peace, but keep my defenses strong. These are not human beings. They are monsters. Well I have an air rifle and air pistol and a leather belt I brought in Topland. I also believe in peace and as for the inhumane enemy as you call then, I believe they and their supporters should be hit so hard and as often as needed until they are eradicated or at least curtailed to the point that the moderates of this group can again take control for the betterment of all concerned. Edited February 23, 2015 by Artisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Humanely dealing with an inhumane enemy is Hobson's Choice. Some people only respect force and aggression, which is a bitter necessity. I am a left wing liberal. I also own several guns and hold a black belt in Taekwondo that I earned in Korea. I believe in peace, but keep my defenses strong. These are not human beings. They are monsters. Well I have an air rifle and air pistol and a leather belt I brought in Topland. I also believe in peace and as for the inhumane enemy as you call then, I believe they and their supporters should be hit so hard and as often as needed until they are eradicated or at least curtailed to the point that the moderates of this group can again take control for the betterment of all concerned.I've got 2 BB guns, a catapult, and a pair of braces I bought in Big C. Annihilation of ISIS and it's supporters will buy time in the battle against Islamists before another cult surfaces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 With Asean having islamic states as members, they are in the door already. Too late. 50 years from now, Thailand will be islamic, just like France and the UK. 60 years ago we were all going to be Nazi's. Now crawl back under your stone and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 What ISIS Really Wants http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ This is from a left-of-center magazine in the US. Obama says ISIS in not Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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