HHTel Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 As stated only a couple of months ago by the finance minister - Thailand is far from being ready for the AEC. He states that only 10% of companies have readied themselves. The MRA is a voluntary arrangement between members. There will not be a free flow of labour. It's agreed that only skilled and professional workers are to be considered. Thailand will still protect it's 'reserved occupations' Work permits will still be required by foreigners. Add to all that the official language is English! My gut feel is that Thailand will last up to two years as part of the AEC and will then withdraw just as some member countries of the EU are considering their withdrawal at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Just to clarify, is this referring to ASEAN, which has been in existence since 1967, or the coming ASEAN Economic Community (AEC)? Good to see other thinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I doubt that it will be very successful. I believe that Thailand believes that they will be the leader of ASEAN, but I don't think that is going to cut it with some of the other members. The cultures are vastly different with no common language or common religion. There are a lot of differences between the member states. They will bump along, but they would bump along with or without ASEAN. Nailed it. The Thais have never been able to learn more English than is necessary to distract you while they pick your pocket. Buddhism and Islam will not exactly walk hand in hand. Look at the south. Warlords can never be taken seriously and nobody will. Can you imagine the current joker trying on his nonsense with other leaders? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Within the EU Germany is financing the lot...who will play this part here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teatree Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 ASEAN will be a success because it is more democratic than the EU. Each country has its own say. The day there is a president of ASEAN making all of the decisions is the day it will fail, like the EU. Yes, it will move more slowly, but what's wrong with that? Also, ASEAN is simply about business, not one identity with one currency. The countries of ASEAN will be business partners, not fools. For now this is true, but the EU started along the same lines and changed gradually into the undemocratic mess we have today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I wish people would differentiate between ASEAN for which there is a long standing charter and has a chairmanship rotating annually and the AEC which is an Economic Community set up by members of ASEAN and does not become effective until the end of the year (2015). It makes for very confusing reading. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 as long as the labour is cheap and the laws weak then Asean will be a success for Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 it will be a success for business people that have had a gut full of thai workers Those 2 words cannot be used together "Thai ........................................................Workers" there Ive kept them apart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiyaibob Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) If this is truly to be an economic community similar to the EU it will mean that there should be freedom of movement and employment in all of the member countries. This should mean that ASEAN nationals from other countries will be able to come to work in Thailand with no need for a visa or work permit. Do you honestly see the Thai Government allowing other nationals to take the jobs of Thai workers? I have asked this question of several people and they suggest that the Thai Govt will only allow professionals and those with specific qualifications to work here freely. Not really an even playing field. I am looking forward to seeing highly qualified and "professional" agogo dancers from all asean countries down walking street Edited March 11, 2015 by kaiyaibob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 For God's sake, read the posts before replying and update yourselves of the facts. ......'people have suggested'......'I've asked several people'......'This should mean that ASEAN nationals from other countries will be able to come to work in Thailand with no need for a visa or work permit. Do you honestly see the Thai Government allowing other nationals to take the jobs of Thai workers?....... Agreements have already been reached and are well documented. Let's leave fantasy and summations aside and stick to the facts. I'm done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Thailand will be the ball and chain that will make it difficult to succeed. Thailand should be excluded for a couple of decades until it can prove to the world it is stable. Even one more coup then Thailand should be banned for life, it's not mature enough or developed to play on the big stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronwparker Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 If the EU is having difficulties what chance does Asean have? There is so much corruption here anda HUGE gap between the rich and poor. The Thais are very good a some things,sadly education and invention aswell as thinking are not very good here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Aleman Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 9, ( nine), of the 10 members will be a success but none beginning with the letter " T " ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schondie Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 As I'm setting up an export company in the near future I would the AEC to work for my benefit but I know that things won't work as intended. Crooked Customs officials, and most importantly, the Thai mindset aren't going to change any time soon. Being realistic, I imagine the AEC to carry on being postponed time and time again until the whole thing is forgotten about. Thailand should benefit from it but the changes to the Foreign Business Act are the main stumbling block to getting it passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thailand has already put the date back from the beging of this year now to the end of this year if your lucky that should now tell you how much of a success it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcwaterfall Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) For God's sake, read the posts before replying and update yourselves of the facts. ......'people have suggested'......'I've asked several people'......'This should mean that ASEAN nationals from other countries will be able to come to work in Thailand with no need for a visa or work permit. Do you honestly see the Thai Government allowing other nationals to take the jobs of Thai workers?....... Agreements have already been reached and are well documented. Let's leave fantasy and summations aside and stick to the facts. I'm done! Yes. You are. December 2015 will be an interesting time. Edited March 12, 2015 by tlcwaterfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thailand has already put the date back from the beging of this year now to the end of this year The secretary general of ASEAN announced the delay in 2012 from January 2015 to December 2015 having been agreed by members. Thailand is only one member and doesn't have the power to call the shots. The announcement in 2012 also stated that no further delays will be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Thailand has already put the date back from the beging of this year now to the end of this year The secretary general of ASEAN announced the delay in 2012 from January 2015 to December 2015 having been agreed by members. Thailand is only one member and doesn't have the power to call the shots. The announcement in 2012 also stated that no further delays will be considered. True statement. Why do the Thai-haters keep putting out bogus information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n210mp Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Its a cunning plan IMO To amass and attract cheap workers from those Countries not up to Thailands high standards of worker safety and massive social security benefits.. As I remember they did a similar thing n the UK a long time ago in not only allowing Asians in to do all those pesky jobs that the Brits refused to do but gave them passports as well. . Edited March 13, 2015 by n210mp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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