Work permit on a single entry marriage visa ?

[LivinLOS]

A buddy didnt take my advice and instead of going to savannakhet is on route to vientiane.. Where I am assuming he will be given a single entry non imm O based on marriage.

He is then attempting to get his work permit, has a company which he thinks is fully qualified (I have my doubts based on some of his information so far but lets say it is).

Theres no reason to think he will have problems getting a work permit because hes on a single entry visa not the extension is there ?? His travel schedule means getting the extension is hard possibly impossible due to being in and out the country every week or two.

Does it matter his work permit will be tied to a visa, thats invalidated as he leaves in another 2 weeks ?? Whats the timescale for work permit application ?? How does this work for someone who is in and out every couple of weeks ??

He REALLY should have gone and got the multi.. I know this.. But hes impulsive and listens to people in bars.

[ubonjoe]

He can get a work permit with the single entry visa.

How does he plan on leaving on a regular basis without having a multiple entry visa. If he leaves and re-enters the country without a valid non immigrant visa his work permit will no longer be valid. He can get a re-entry permit for the 90 day entry from the non-o visa but it still will only be valid for 90 days.

[Soutpeel]

Can he apply for a WP on this visa ?....yes, will they issue the WP on this maybe not some DOL want people on a non-imm B

[LivinLOS]

Off on a tangent.. Will Vientiane give a 1 year multiple if he has a bank book with over 400k.. And has had for a LONG time ?

[LivinLOS]

He can get a work permit with the single entry visa.

How does he plan on leaving on a regular basis without having a multiple entry visa. If he leaves and re-enters the country without a valid non immigrant visa his work permit will no longer be valid. He can get a re-entry permit for the 90 day entry from the non-o visa but it still will only be valid for 90 days.

Hes gone at this poorly planned it seems.. hes texting me now heading from udon to VT.. If he had done so yesterday I would have sent him to get the multi entry 1 year.

His accountant wife thinks she can get everything in 2 weeks.. I have my doubts.. Especially as hes telling me things that make no logical sense.. Then again maybe as a company lawyer / clerical she has contacts to bribe ??

His plan is to get visa.. then marriage extension (why not a business ?!?!).. then re-entry permit.. then WP..

Lots of hoops to jump through in very restrictive timescales.. While having lots of travel for work also.

[ubonjoe]

Vientiane does not issue any multiple entry non immigrant visas. Having money in the bank will not help at all.

[LivinLOS]

I am going to assume theres no issue with applying for a marriage extension.. Getting a re-entry permit.. and being back in the country at the 30 day 'under review' time ??

I can see a possible 'out' if thats workable.

[ubonjoe]

He could apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage during the last 30 days of the 90 entry he will get from the visa.

It is possible to get a re-entry permit for the under consideration period that will valid up to the report back date on the stamp.

Since it will be his first extension he may also need to be here for a home visit by immigration during the 30 days.

[LivinLOS]

Yeah and in another few weeks hes going to be in and out constantly and without ability to time these things.

From what I am chatting to him now, hes either miss informed via his wife, shes miss informed, or she has a contact who processes this for a 'fee'.. Because some of the steps he thinks are possible are not possible for normal applicants.

Eg shes told him once he has the single entry.. he doesnt even need to visit immigration for the extension.. Its all being 'handled'.. I wont say thats impossible, but its not how normal people would be able to apply.

[Soutpeel]

Eg shes told him once he has the single entry.. he doesnt even need to visit immigration for the extension.. Its all being 'handled'.. I wont say thats impossible, but its not how normal people would be able to apply.

to be fair, I am on an extension and WP and haven't paid a visit to immigration in years, every year just give my pp and WP to the office and it comes back a few days later all chopped for another year and I can tell you for certain no brown envelopes change hands either.

[ubonjoe]

Eg shes told him once he has the single entry.. he doesnt even need to visit immigration for the extension.. Its all being 'handled'.. I wont say thats impossible, but its not how normal people would be able to apply.

to be fair, I am on an extension and WP and haven't paid a visit to immigration in years, every year just give my pp and WP to the office and it comes back a few days later all chopped for another year and I can tell you for certain no brown envelopes change hands either.

That is because yours is an extension based upon working and if recall correctly they are done at the one stop center because it is a BOI company.

An extension of stay based upon marriage requires the spouse of the applicant to be present at immigration to do a statement and sign it.

I am certain though for a very large fee a under the table extension can be arranged.

[LivinLOS]

Yes my understanding was not going to do the interview together was something that would not be normal and hence need payment for. Secondly he thinks once he has his single entry visa, he simply gives her 1900 baht and his passport and everything else is 'solved' all around his travel and timing by her.. Extension, WP, etc etc.. Also within the next couple of weeks not at the end of the 90 days entry (not possible IMO??)

I am not going to claim shes not aware of the rules, tho its possible she has underestimated them.. But talking to him some things clearly dont add up, including the way hes gone at getting this.. Maybe he hasnt listened and paid attention, maybe shes said or understood it wrong, or maybe she has a simple solution that works around the conventional route.

I am not going to get in the middle of him an his missus.. Let it either work or fail based on her.

[ubonjoe]

What I don't understand is why he is getting a work permit if he is working outside the country.

[LivinLOS]

What I don't understand is why he is getting a work permit if he is working outside the country.

He (slightly) works in Thailand as well as outside.. His bread and butter is international contracts but that requires some work incountry, pricing, scheduling, planning, billing, etc.. Previously doing that in the usual grey area of most 'online work for outside clients' line as it is very arguable if thats working here.. Plus he could have 'paid' his book keeper missus to do it anyway.. Which IMO was how he should have kept it.

But now hes setting up a Thai side.. In many ways to give his missus something to work on.. Has Thai staff (who he takes internationally to work) etc etc.. And wishes to have Thai clients, Thai sales, and Thai as a part of the whole and where the head office is.. I do understand his thinking but also suspect its entirely a loss leader to make work for her and give her something to administrate. I simply cant see the headaches and costs being worth the upside.

Plus hes fed up of 10 years of 30 day visa stamps, no Thai driving license, questions on what that does to his vehicle insurance, etc etc.. Its a process to properly establish his legal base. Being on visa exempt stamps for so long does come with some drawbacks.

Me I would have gone to Savannhakhet and just got a multi.

[LivinLOS]

He could apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage during the last 30 days of the 90 entry he will get from the visa.

How firm is that last 30 days aspect ??

Meaning does this get done on officer discretion sometimes or is that a firm rule thats going to need a lot of finessing.

I dont know if hes been in the country for 90 days one time in the last 10 years.. hes in and out every week or two.

[ubonjoe]

It can be 30 or 45 days dependent upon the office used.

He could get a re-entry permit for the 90 day entry if needs to leave the country.

[LivinLOS]

yes I realise he could get a re-entry permit and wait until its later..

But right now he has a month of low travel schedule after this month I suspect it will be unusual for him to be in Thailand for more than a couple of days at a time.. Hence making doing this later, a scheduling problem.

If it can be done now, in the first 30 days of his his new single entry, then he has some time.. If not, its going to be very hard if not impossible.

Really the restrictions placed on an international business person, trying to pay taxes and be legal is crazy.. They want the money or not ?? Hes earning it out there..

[ubonjoe]

He should of went to Savannakhet for the multiple entry non-o. He could still get his work permit and do everything he plans on doing with it.

He will not be able to apply for the extension during the first 30 days of his entry.

[LivinLOS]

He should of went to Savannakhet for the multiple entry non-o. He could still get his work permit and do everything he plans on doing with it.

He will not be able to apply for the extension during the first 30 days of his entry.

Precisely the advise I told him...

"his wife said" etc.. While calling me for advise an hour from the border.