Prayut says US disallows him to travel to the states

Baerboxer · March 14, 2015

cant go to Aussie either can he ?....for the same reason

He's seems to be speaking for the Americans again. His assumption just because Obama ain't invited him. The billionaire Wall St. connected Thaksin, a convicted criminal fugitive with 15 outstanding criminal court cases got a visa ok on a private visit, unusual for America. And the former PM Ms. Yingluck was always dropping hints about a "White House invitation" that never came.

Who America invites, allows in and doesn't invite or prohibits is there business. Hypocrisy is up the them.

As for Aussie - why would he want to visit a piss pot country with an idiot PM?

JoeLing · March 14, 2015

I'm sure he knows the reasons why the US won't let him in, so there really wasn't any reason to reiterate their stance, I was just being facetious in my earlier post, and don't really see the big deal about not letting him into the USA.

I have a love hate relationship with the USA , many of them still support terrorist organisations such as the IRAQ and often fundraise on their behalf but yet have such a Hardon for Islamic terror groups?

They have lapse immigration laws when it suits, I personally know a lad who has lived and worked there for nearly 3 years with no SS card and no green card and is also a part time firefighter.

It's a great place to visit and I have many friends living all over the various states and I've never had a bad time or experience in th numerous times I've been. Oh apart from eating grits!!! That left me feeling very unwell!! 5555

America is no different from lots of other countries as in they think they're the best but in reality they're no better or worse it's all down to how you personally interact with the people that's makes it good or bad.

Just like here, I have more grief from farangs on this site than I have from Thais around my local area. ?

I think you have to read that article again.

It said the US is not inviting him in. It doesn't say, they banned him from entering the USA.

Slightly different. I'm sure there is absolute no problem for him to go on a quick shopping trip

to New York if he wishes.

TechnikaIII · March 14, 2015

ok I give up .. why cant he travel to the USA?

I believe he can, but as a tourist, not as any sort of Head of Sate, because he achieved that status through a military coup.

Ironically, most civil minded Thais were begging for the army to intervene during the protest against the Shinawatra government. The protests were enormous, well organised and peaceful, until Thaksin Shinawatra's Red Shirt thugs started shooting up the place, and throwing grenades. I was there. The police, for reasons one can only imagine, did nothing to reign in the culprits, and always just happened to be looking the other way.

However, the USA administration places no store in any of this. They just suck on the word "democracy" as though it were some great chocolate coated phallus.

Baerboxer · March 14, 2015

I find this very interesting. The PM of Thailand has been disallowed from going to the USA, while it allows an convicted criminal on the run from the law to go. The American law, as I understand it will not allow a visa to anyone that has been convicted in a court of law. It still allowed Thakisin Shinitawatra to travel to the US after he was convicted by the court for corruption, while his Brother-in-Law, was PM.

Convicted by whom ? By an ILLEGAL putchist military government who illegaly suspended the 1997 COnstitution and arrested, tortured and massacred dozens if not hundreds of students, children, women, academics ?

According to Transparency International Thaksin govt. was BY FAR THE LEAST corrupt in Thai history, while your hero Suthep has spent all his life cheating, stealing, killing etc... He had been regarded way back years ago by Democratic Party leader Chuan Leekpai "The most corrupt people in Thailand".

You do know which government was in power when Thaksin was convicted and jumped bail do you? And you do realize Thaksin has 15 more serious criminal charges waiting in the courts should he return before the statute of limitations expire.

Suthep AFAIK hasn't been convicted of anything yet. Whatever he has or hasn't done is irrelevant to the criminal conviction and outstanding cases against Thaksin.

If you want to portray Thaksin as some honest innocent benevolent democrat then you'd best find a website where his past exploits have been widely discussed. He's probably one of the most evil and dangerous men to come out of Asia.

" By an ILLEGAL putchist military government who illegaly suspended the 1997 COnstitution and arrested, tortured and massacred dozens if not hundreds of students, children, women, academics ?" - what a load of complete nonsense. You're making this up as you go along. Did you miss the pics of the people giving the soldiers flowers when they removed the illegal self appointed caretaker PM Thaksin?

Edited March 14, 2015 by Baerboxer

thailand49 · March 14, 2015

PM or not you got to go through the process of getting a Visa, why should he go and my Thai BG can't 555, Plus he already has chosen his side of sleeping with the Chinese so why go to the U.S. and ask for more aid.

When he does go will he have to pay double for using his ATM card, will he have to pay double ..not being a American to visit the parks

eggers · March 14, 2015

What you'd expect from US admin, whether Obama's or any other President's, just a bunch of dummy spitters who think there's only one way.....USAway!

Wrong........Can't fix own probs, i.e. racial issues, healthcare, etc, etc, MYOB!!!

spermwhale · March 14, 2015

Why do you even want to go?

I remember the poor soul who survived through the killing fields of the Khmer Rogue died on the streets of USA.

First post from an America hater who has no doubt ever been to that wonderful country and experienced the true hospitality of Americans, something no other country can beat. Go see for yourself how nice Americans are before you open your trap and spout complete nonsense.

spermwhale · March 14, 2015

What you'd expect from US admin, whether Obama's or any other President's, just a bunch of dummy spitters who think there's only one way.....USAway!

Wrong........Can't fix own probs, i.e. racial issues, healthcare, etc, etc, MYOB!!!

If you read CAREFULLY, you'll see that the US has not told him he can't come. The US is not in the habit of inviting coup leaders to the US for diplomatic visits. That said, if he wanted to go, he doesn't need an invite. As a head of state he would be admitted.

VIPinthailand · March 14, 2015

I wish to be banned from entering in the USA, so they won't see my dollars.

where can I apply?

rtco · March 14, 2015

Pardon me or being dim but what the hell does "However he asked that no matter what countries or what ruling systems they have, they are all considered living in the same globe" mean. I'm damned if I know.

roo860 · March 14, 2015

I'm sure he knows the reasons why the US won't let him in, so there really wasn't any reason to reiterate their stance, I was just being facetious in my earlier post, and don't really see the big deal about not letting him into the USA.

I have a love hate relationship with the USA , many of them still support terrorist organisations such as the IRAQ and often fundraise on their behalf but yet have such a Hardon for Islamic terror groups?

They have lapse immigration laws when it suits, I personally know a lad who has lived and worked there for nearly 3 years with no SS card and no green card and is also a part time firefighter.

It's a great place to visit and I have many friends living all over the various states and I've never had a bad time or experience in th numerous times I've been. Oh apart from eating grits!!! That left me feeling very unwell!! 5555

America is no different from lots of other countries as in they think they're the best but in reality they're no better or worse it's all down to how you personally interact with the people that's makes it good or bad.

Just like here, I have more grief from farangs on this site than I have from Thais around my local area.

Did you mean the IRA?

trogers · March 14, 2015

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Why do you even want to go?

I remember the poor soul who survived through the killing fields of the Khmer Rogue died on the streets of USA.

First post from an America hater who has no doubt ever been to that wonderful country and experienced the true hospitality of Americans, something no other country can beat. Go see for yourself how nice Americans are before you open your trap and spout complete nonsense.

Yup, my pals in NY said, don't venture out in the dark. Been going this in Bangkok for decades.

English 1 · March 14, 2015

The Dumb tunnel vision Yanks have no idea as usual.

The Coupe was the best thing that happened here and it has gone very smoothly.

The good PM is doing a great job in a very difficult cultural environment.

The USA it seems cannot weigh up the fact that Thailand is at last being 'cleaned' up of the corruption and much more.

But it seems the USA prefer an elected corrupt government to an honest one!

spermwhale · March 14, 2015

Most of the posters here didn't read the whole article. He's not banned. He just hasn't been invited. It's a big difference, one that I'm sure the pea brain, PM can't wrap his noodle around. It's too complicated, as it seems for most of the people spewing their disdain for the US on this thread.

And his continued protestations that he NEVER wanted to be PM well. to that I say: Methinks he protests too much. He's power hungry and watch when he refuses to let new elections be held. Sit tight folks.

He's already showed shown he wants to stick around when he refused to endorse a proposal that coup-makers and their ilk would not be allowed to contest future elections.

smedly · March 14, 2015

cant go to Aussie either can he ?....for the same reason

funny that - what a weird world we live in

The man behind most if not all the unrest deaths and conflict in Thailand these last almost 10 years can freely travel where and when he likes - how &&&&&& up is that

Fat Haggis · March 14, 2015

cant go to Aussie either can he ?....for the same reason

He's seems to be speaking for the Americans again. His assumption just because Obama ain't invited him. The billionaire Wall St. connected Thaksin, a convicted criminal fugitive with 15 outstanding criminal court cases got a visa ok on a private visit, unusual for America. And the former PM Ms. Yingluck was always dropping hints about a "White House invitation" that never came.

Who America invites, allows in and doesn't invite or prohibits is there business. Hypocrisy is up the them.

As for Aussie - why would he want to visit a piss pot country with an idiot PM?

Some might be feeling that about coming to Thailand ?

howzat · March 14, 2015

He has got such a nice face. Reminds me of my Dad.

writeshack · March 14, 2015

Maybe he isn't welcome for an official visit, but if he were to present his passport and apply for an ordinary visa maybe it would be different. Worked for Thaksin.

Fat Haggis · March 14, 2015

I'm sure he knows the reasons why the US won't let him in, so there really wasn't any reason to reiterate their stance, I was just being facetious in my earlier post, and don't really see the big deal about not letting him into the USA.

I have a love hate relationship with the USA , many of them still support terrorist organisations such as the IRAQ and often fundraise on their behalf but yet have such a Hardon for Islamic terror groups?

They have lapse immigration laws when it suits, I personally know a lad who has lived and worked there for nearly 3 years with no SS card and no green card and is also a part time firefighter.

It's a great place to visit and I have many friends living all over the various states and I've never had a bad time or experience in th numerous times I've been. Oh apart from eating grits!!! That left me feeling very unwell!! 5555

America is no different from lots of other countries as in they think they're the best but in reality they're no better or worse it's all down to how you personally interact with the people that's makes it good or bad.

Just like here, I have more grief from farangs on this site than I have from Thais around my local area.

Did you mean the IRA?

Oops yeah damn predictive text!!!

tezzainthailand · March 14, 2015

I'm sure he knows the reasons why the US won't let him in, so there really wasn't any reason to reiterate their stance, I was just being facetious in my earlier post, and don't really see the big deal about not letting him into the USA.

I have a love hate relationship with the USA , many of them still support terrorist organisations such as the IRAQ and often fundraise on their behalf but yet have such a Hardon for Islamic terror groups?

They have lapse immigration laws when it suits, I personally know a lad who has lived and worked there for nearly 3 years with no SS card and no green card and is also a part time firefighter.

It's a great place to visit and I have many friends living all over the various states and I've never had a bad time or experience in th numerous times I've been. Oh apart from eating grits!!! That left me feeling very unwell!! 5555

America is no different from lots of other countries as in they think they're the best but in reality they're no better or worse it's all down to how you personally interact with the people that's makes it good or bad.

Just like here, I have more grief from farangs on this site than I have from Thais around my local area. ?

Spot on. Meeting Americans, one on one they are mostly fine people. And the country itself is a beauty from the Grand Canyon to the Blues Delta to New York, and it gave us rock and roll, jazz and the blues, but America is also the best example of how a rich country shouldn't be the way it is. It's gun laws are shameful and bizarre. It's health care system a joke. It's wages for low income workers shocking. It's treatment of African-Americans still far from ideal and it's belief that it should be the world's policeman will always come back to bite it. A quarter of the population of the China but a military budget second to none, and they still can't repair New Orleans.

trogers · March 14, 2015

The Dumb tunnel vision Yanks have no idea as usual.

The Coupe was the best thing that happened here and it has gone very smoothly.

The good PM is doing a great job in a very difficult cultural environment.

The USA it seems cannot weigh up the fact that Thailand is at last being 'cleaned' up of the corruption and much more.

But it seems the USA prefer an elected corrupt government to an honest one!

A corrupt govt can be bought. See Marcos.

Now see Germany and the US.

Commerce · March 14, 2015

I wish to be banned from entering in the USA, so they won't see my dollars.

where can I apply?

You have dollars?

Rather ironic isn't that?

h90 · March 14, 2015

Wah wah wah. Call elections, hell run in them too, you're doing such a good job and 93.7% of the Thai people love you so get legitimate and stop whining.

He doesn't has the money for the required vote buying without corruption

sanuk711 · March 14, 2015

Well I guess if its possible that the head of the Thai Government isn't to be allowed in we should perhaps view the ones that are welcomed with open arms.....The list of dictators is so long on Google I have just chosen a few

Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, Equatorial Guinea

Wikipedia

Ok, so this dude first rose to power about three decades ago by deposing and killing the former dictator, who also happened to be his Uncle. He then started his own vicious dictatorial regime, and has been described as Africa’s worst dictator.

He claims to be in regular contact with god, and can thus randomly kill any person he wants, without fear of retribution in the hereafter. In the 90s, the country nearly killed one of our own Ambassadors, because they thought he was practicing witchcraft. Abuses under his regime, cited by The USA own State Department, include “unlawful killings by security forces; government-sanctioned kidnappings; systematic torture of prisoners and detainees by security forces; life threatening conditions in prisons and detention facilities; impunity; arbitrary arrest, detention, and incommunicado detention.”

So why is this person the USA's buddy? Well, they made friends with him after 9/11, because (SURPRISE!) his country has oil! Lots of oil! So thats OK now. Condoleeza Rice called him “a good friend” and uh, judging by this picture, Obama seems pretty tight with him as well. In 2008, the US imported nearly $3 billion in petroleum products from Equatorial Guinea.

Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan

First of all- THIS PERSON HAS PEOPLE BOILED TO DEATH. He boils them! To death! .. He also had 400-500 people protesting his regime cordoned off and massacred by snipers in the street. Not to mention the commonplace torture, arbitrary jailings, and massive round-ups of religious minorities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andijan_massacre

Yet, Uzbeki-beki-bekistan is one of the USA best friends--they’ve got a ton of uranium there, and the USA is pretty fond of buying it from them, and they like buying our Boeing jetliners. Google image search this fella, and you’ll see him palling around with a number of top US politicos, including both Bush’s and Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State.

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia
The U.S. has had a good relationship with Saudi Arabia since 1974, when Richard Nixon became the first American president to visit the country. The ties strengthened during George W. Bush's tenure — and King Abdullah maintains a good relationship with President Obama. And yet Saudi Arabia is indisputably an authoritarian regime. There is no elected parliament, public protests are banned, and the media is controlled by the state. The United States' support of Abdullah may one day backfire, says Alex Welch at The Daily Campus. "On the day the Saudi monarchy collapses, the United States may find itself powerless to defeat any anti-American sentiment that may foster as a result."

I don't think one needs to remind Americans, just who where the bombers in 9/11.....and when every single Plane in the USA was grounded for safety, a phone call was made---& 1 Just 1 plane was exempt to return to Saudi Arabia.

Gurbanguly Berdymukhamedov of Turkmenistan
Turkmenistan borders Afghanistan, and the U.S. has pursued a strategic alliance with President Berdymukhamedov to allow arms and supplies to travel through his country. Turkmenistan received $2 million in military aid last year, and its leader has met with Secretary of State Clinton and General David Petraeus. But "Turkmenistan is run by one of the most repressive regimes in existence," says Justin Elliott at Salon. Restrictions on freedom, religion, the press, and movement are widespread, as are torture and detention of political prisoners.

Look Just Google, the list is so long, & I am talking about the present day list a lot of them Like Marcos etc supported for decades are gone----even against the USA wishes.

& you really do not want to go back into history or you will be finding guys like this being allowed in.

Adolf Hitler

BBC

Breckinridge Long was the US Secretary of State at the time Hitler was in power. While he gave Henry Ford permission to buy Nazi tanks, he purposely prevented Jewish refugees from entering the US (recommended read: The Voyage of The Damned). Also, Breckinridge and Roosevelt gave permission for a few US Companies to continue trading with Germany during the war– I.T.T.,General Motors, DuPont, Standard Oil of New Jersey, Davis Oil Co., and the Chase National Bank. Why? Because money and the stock market and not wanting to give these corporations a big sad.

Yes Thailand is such a big bad repressive dictatorship ---that's why we come on here everyday & write / Print just about anything we want to......................

Edited March 14, 2015 by sanuk711

Fat Haggis · March 14, 2015

I'm sure he knows the reasons why the US won't let him in, so there really wasn't any reason to reiterate their stance, I was just being facetious in my earlier post, and don't really see the big deal about not letting him into the USA.

I have a love hate relationship with the USA , many of them still support terrorist organisations such as the IRAQ and often fundraise on their behalf but yet have such a Hardon for Islamic terror groups?

They have lapse immigration laws when it suits, I personally know a lad who has lived and worked there for nearly 3 years with no SS card and no green card and is also a part time firefighter.

It's a great place to visit and I have many friends living all over the various states and I've never had a bad time or experience in th numerous times I've been. Oh apart from eating grits!!! That left me feeling very unwell!! 5555

America is no different from lots of other countries as in they think they're the best but in reality they're no better or worse it's all down to how you personally interact with the people that's makes it good or bad.

Just like here, I have more grief from farangs on this site than I have from Thais around my local area. ?

I think you have to read that article again.
It said the US is not inviting him in. It doesn't say, they banned him from entering the USA.

Slightly different. I'm sure there is absolute no problem for him to go on a quick shopping trip

to New York if he wishes.

Doesn't he state himself the USA disallows him to travel to the states ? Isn't that techno speak for "banned"

Isn't that not the very same thing as you're not allowed to stage protests? In other words protests are banned?

Semantics indeed, and I never said in my post any thing about him being banned ?

yellowboat · March 14, 2015

It can be hard for Thai people to get visas to go overseas. Looks like it's no different for Prayuth!

Not to worry Gen Prayuth, you'd hate it - too much bread.

Funny that once you cross the border into Indo China, the bread is rather good. Better than most bread in the US. Love the bread in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Laos has great pastries.

Other than wanting to go to America, wonder how much time Thais spend just over their own borders. Lots of bread is consumed by their neighbors.

The general or any of his cronies are delusional if they think they will be invited by any elected politicians in the west. For Japan, it is a matter of heavily vested interests.

spermwhale · March 14, 2015

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Why do you even want to go?

I remember the poor soul who survived through the killing fields of the Khmer Rogue died on the streets of USA.
First post from an America hater who has no doubt ever been to that wonderful country and experienced the true hospitality of Americans, something no other country can beat. Go see for yourself how nice Americans are before you open your trap and spout complete nonsense.

Yup, my pals in NY said, don't venture out in the dark. Been going this in Bangkok for decades.

Really? After dark? then why do they live there. I am sure they are out after dark often and without incident. What about the millions of people who are out going to dinner, shows? clubs when the sun has gone down. Are they all gunned down?

pgangeles · March 14, 2015

ok I give up .. why cant he travel to the USA?

He was not refused entry to US. Bad translation.

He just wasn't invited because of US Law which does not invite Junta leaders. Weather there good or bad for a country.

Prayut can go on his own any time he wishes.

spermwhale · March 14, 2015

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Why do you even want to go?

I remember the poor soul who survived through the killing fields of the Khmer Rogue died on the streets of USA.
First post from an America hater who has no doubt ever been to that wonderful country and experienced the true hospitality of Americans, something no other country can beat. Go see for yourself how nice Americans are before you open your trap and spout complete nonsense.

Yup, my pals in NY said, don't venture out in the dark. Been going this in Bangkok for decades.

I'll add that I have been out "after dark" in pretty much every US city I've ever visited and I survived unscathed!!!

abitmiffed · March 14, 2015

Wow they let in terrorists but not the Thai PM? the guy must have really rubbed people up the wrong way.......poor puppet.

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