Lite Beer Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Muslim Cleric Describes Traumatic Thai Police Raid in Deep South By Khaosod Eng. PATTANI — A Muslim cleric in the restive province of Pattani says he was mistreated by Thai police who claimed to find several assault rifles at his religious school last month. In a press conference yesterday, Marobi Niseng, a cleric and owner of Nahtatul Ulumidiniyah madras in Yarang district of Pattani, said Thai security forces falsely accused him of of possessing four assault rifles and one handgun that they said they found in the school.According to the report the military provided to the media, security officers discovered the weapons when they raided the religious school on 18 February. The raid was conducted by military and police officers after receiving a tip that a high-ranking militant was hiding in the district around the madras, the military's statement said.Security officers also said they found bomb-making equipment inside the school.Marobi said he and his family were relaxing in their house, which is located inside the madras compound, on 18 February when more than a hundred black-clad, armed security officers arrived. The security officers rounded up everyone outside while they searched the property, Marobi said."The security officers searched every corner of my house. They even searched my bed three times," the cleric said.According to Marobi, the officers eventually presented several assault rifles and told him to pose for a photo next to them, even though the weapons were in fact discovered in the wooded area 200 meters away from the religious school.Pol.Col. Somboon Puangmalai, superintendent of Yarang Police Station, admitted yesterday that the weapons were found "outside the area of the madras" but did not elaborate any further. He also told Khaosod there is no evidence that links the weapons with Marobi at the moment."Currently, we are waiting to see whether the results of fingerprints and DNA tests match anyone," Pol.Col. Somboon said. Read More: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1426388186 -- Khaosod English 2015-03-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Always18 Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 I am certainly not pre-judging the outcome of any forensic examination, but this thoroughly reprehensible process by which the RTP force suspects to pose alongside alleged evidence PRIOR to any charges being laid or court proceedings taking place is nothing short of an attempt to pervert justice. Shameful behaviour but not untypical of a lawless, third-world country.................. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trogers Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 Perhaps the raid would be less traumatic with a week's notice? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sealbash Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 It is also a possibility that not all Moslems are honest and trustworthy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siam2007 Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 Just wonder how traumatic must be the almost daily abduction, raping and then killing of scores of young females happening in ISIS or BOKO HARAM controlled areas...... but sure, I will shed a tear for the Islam cleric in the South.... it's a lovely world we live in, after all..... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod reborn Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Nothing the cleric says would support a claim that the search was traumatic or that he was mistreated. The photo-op is unnecessary but SOP for the RTP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchurch259 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I am certainly not pre-judging the outcome of any forensic examination, but this thoroughly reprehensible process by which the RTP force suspects to pose alongside alleged evidence PRIOR to any charges being laid or court proceedings taking place is nothing short of an attempt to pervert justice. Shameful behaviour but not untypical of a lawless, third-world country.................. This Photo Opt thing flies in the face of what we Westerners call "Due Process". Even if they confess and are still going have trial, it is wrong. Confess and no trial it becomes publicity/propaganda !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srikcir Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 The true trauma is that all Thai Muslems are treated with suspicion as they are not like loyal, Buddhist Thai people. They don't share Thai people's culture and history. It may be for this reason that various Thai military efforts to "win their hearts and minds" through extra security and civil gifts really is unappreciated. The Thai military continously sends the message of unrestrained Thai mastery over the Thai Muslims. Yet, it expects Muslims to give up their culture and religious heritage in exchange for absorption into Thai society. Prayut has not changed the military's 40-year approach to resolution of the Muslim conflict and likely to continue to fail until a Thai government is willing to recognize the issue of soverneignty. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 If the guns were found on HIS property he is GUILTY. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WitawatWatawit Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 If the guns were found on HIS property he is GUILTY. But they weren't found on "his" property. You must suffer from short attention span. It's hard to maintain a balance these days,especially with places like madrassas (not madras) and pondoks, too much emotion involved. But somewhere along the line, judicial rights must be respected, and this posing of the cleric with the weapons is very, very wrong, both legally and morally. If he is duly convicted of terrorism offences, then let the fires of hell crash in on him, but until then he remains innocent. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I am certainly not pre-judging the outcome of any forensic examination, but this thoroughly reprehensible process by which the RTP force suspects to pose alongside alleged evidence PRIOR to any charges being laid or court proceedings taking place is nothing short of an attempt to pervert justice. Shameful behaviour but not untypical of a lawless, third-world country.................. So you take the Muslim cleric at his word without any doubt he might be making stuff up to protect his ass? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alwyn Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 There's apost describing a bomb attack in Pattani targeting monks and injuring 6. I wonder if they found it traumatic? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick01827 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I am certainly not pre-judging the outcome of any forensic examination, but this thoroughly reprehensible process by which the RTP forces to pose alongside alleged evidence PRIOR to any charges being laid or court proceedings taking place is nothing short of an attempt to pervert justice. Shameful behaviour but not untypical of a lawless, third-world country.................. Are you serious, do you think the rifles/bomb making equipment dropped out of the sky!!!!!! These Muslim scum want to take over the world, they've tried to do it twice before without success. I presume you don't think it's shameful to cut people's heads off, throw gay people from building's, stone women to death......open your eyes to what's going on! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 It is also a possibility that not all Moslems are honest and trustworthy. I am 100% certain of that.. Where do you think all the troubles are coming from????????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BSJ Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 I think if I was a terrorist or a terrorist sympathiser it would be highly unlikely I would be storing military weapons and bombs in my own house. But I would want them close by so that if I was in need of military weapons and bombs.....for what ever reason, they would be close at hand. I think the police are on to something here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango66 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 who are dropping the bombs ? Muslim or Police ? Who hiding that criminals ? Muslims or RTP ? whomthey are targeting ? Teachers which teach their children a cultural life !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I am certainly not pre-judging the outcome of any forensic examination, but this thoroughly reprehensible process by which the RTP force suspects to pose alongside alleged evidence PRIOR to any charges being laid or court proceedings taking place is nothing short of an attempt to pervert justice. Shameful behaviour but not untypical of a lawless, third-world country.................. As there is no trial by jury here in Thailand it doesn't really matter does it.. Although I agree it's all just for the police to look good and get on tv or in the papers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EnglishJohn Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 And I wonder if this cleric has knowledge about who are the bad guys in this area very local to him, but is keeping it to himself. A muslim will never betray another muslim to a non-muslim. My opinion now is that the majority inwardly support the terrorists, but not strongly enough to take action themselves. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Ingalls Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I would also do a ballistic test and see if any or all of the victims that have been killed in the past 6 months match bullets retrieved. If they do, Hang the bastard by his toes!.......The weapons were hidden in the woods. The Muslim Cleric caught word the police were coming to search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) “Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.” ― Albert Einstein Edited March 15, 2015 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) The usual Muslim oppression card being played here, they are masters at posing as the victims. Traumatic having arms found on the premises, didiums then, not as traumatic as being blown up or getting beheaded. Of course he knew, lying is second nature and permitted in Islam Edited March 15, 2015 by dragonfly94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Off topic posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleyclarkey Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Does he preach peace, reconciliation and tolerance in his Mosque? Maybe his sympathy should be directed at; TA...Pattani Bomb Targets Buddhist Monks, Injures 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) military and police officers receiving a tip.They found four assault rifles, one handgun and bomb-making equipment.What is here traumatic?The raid?Or that they found terror weapons near his islam school?Traumatic it is when you're in a bomb blast and see all the body parts of innocent people flying through the air.To become a teacher at a islam school or a preacher in a mosque, it needs the approval of all within the islamic community.This leading figures in the Islamic community often know exactly what's going on. Edited March 15, 2015 by tomacht8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 The Muslim cleric might be surprised at the description of the trauma victims of Muslims terrorists have had to endure...quit whining...and next time take your rifles more than a few meters from your house to hide them... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Do you know what we call opinion in the absence of evidence? We call it prejudice.” ― Michael Crichton, State of Fear Edited March 15, 2015 by Bluespunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuddy Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 If the guns were found on HIS property he is GUILTY. But they weren't found on "his" property. You must suffer from short attention span. It's hard to maintain a balance these days,especially with places like madrassas (not madras) and pondoks, too much emotion involved. But somewhere along the line, judicial rights must be respected, and this posing of the cleric with the weapons is very, very wrong, both legally and morally. If he is duly convicted of terrorism offences, then let the fires of hell crash in on him, but until then he remains innocent. What sort of wing nut are you The weapons were found at the school The guy was there Fool you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 If the guns were found on HIS property he is GUILTY. But they weren't found on "his" property. You must suffer from short attention span. It's hard to maintain a balance these days,especially with places like madrassas (not madras) and pondoks, too much emotion involved. But somewhere along the line, judicial rights must be respected, and this posing of the cleric with the weapons is very, very wrong, both legally and morally. If he is duly convicted of terrorism offences, then let the fires of hell crash in on him, but until then he remains innocent. What sort of wing nut are you The weapons were found at the school The guy was there Fool you are "Pol.Col. Somboon Puangmalai, superintendent of Yarang Police Station, admitted yesterday that the weapons were found "outside the area of the madras" but did not elaborate any further. He also told Khaosod there is no evidence that links the weapons with Marobi at the moment." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuddy Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I am certainly not pre-judging the outcome of any forensic examination, but this thoroughly reprehensible process by which the RTP force suspects to pose alongside alleged evidence PRIOR to any charges being laid or court proceedings taking place is nothing short of an attempt to pervert justice. Shameful behaviour but not untypical of a lawless, third-world country.................. This Photo Opt thing flies in the face of what we Westerners call "Due Process". Even if they confess and are still going have trial, it is wrong. Confess and no trial it becomes publicity/propaganda !! Hey mate Due process has been suspended. When will wing nuts like you get it in your head that we are under martial law. That means no due process. And just by the way, This is Thailand. Where do you live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dragonfly94 Posted March 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2015 Do you know what we call opinion in the absence of evidence? We call it prejudice.” ― Michael Crichton, State of Fear Do you know what we call guns found in a Mosque?- Islamic terrorism! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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