Do's and don'ts in Thailand - Dating Etiquette

[amykat]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

Didn't you know, that "drooping grannies" around the world, have been hearing that Thailand has an excess amount of single, western "drooping GRANDPAS" wandering around looking for sex???

They are here for YOU "true blue"

[uptheos]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

Didn't you know, that "drooping grannies" around the world, have been hearing that Thailand has an excess amount of single, western "drooping GRANDPAS" wandering around looking for sex???

They are here for YOU "true blue"

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

Edited April 9, 2015 by uptheos

[amykat]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

Didn't you know, that "drooping grannies" around the world, have been hearing that Thailand has an excess amount of single, western "drooping GRANDPAS" wandering around looking for sex???

They are here for YOU "true blue"

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

Except that there is a big difference between "older Western women" and "older Western men in Thailand" and I doubt that would appeal to 99.99% of women ...no matter what their financial situation is, or age, or looks, or ....well I don't know, maybe ...if you think men like George Clooney are available by those terms? I'm pretty sure, even if a female wants to pay for it, this is one the last places on the planet, we would think to look for MEN.

[uptheos]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

Didn't you know, that "drooping grannies" around the world, have been hearing that Thailand has an excess amount of single, western "drooping GRANDPAS" wandering around looking for sex???

They are here for YOU "true blue"

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

Except that there is a big difference between "older Western women" and "older Western men in Thailand" and I doubt that would appeal to 99.99% of women ...no matter what their financial situation is, or age, or looks, or ....well I don't know, maybe ...if you think men like George Clooney are available by those terms? I'm pretty sure, even if a female wants to pay for it, this is one the last places on the planet, we would think to look for MEN.

Well, I have seen a few western women with Thai guys..

The Thai guys were skinny, with moussed up hair and wearing vans type sneakers.

Maybe the Thai guys come a bit cheaper than George Clooney types

[Loaded]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

Didn't you know, that "drooping grannies" around the world, have been hearing that Thailand has an excess amount of single, western "drooping GRANDPAS" wandering around looking for sex???

They are here for YOU "true blue"

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

Except that there is a big difference between "older Western women" and "older Western men in Thailand" and I doubt that would appeal to 99.99% of women ...no matter what their financial situation is, or age, or looks, or ....well I don't know, maybe ...if you think men like George Clooney are available by those terms? I'm pretty sure, even if a female wants to pay for it, this is one the last places on the planet, we would think to look for MEN.

I know a couple of middle-aged farang women who buy out youngish hill-tribe guys from gay bars. Many of these guys aren't gay anyway but are 'gay for pay'. The women don't hide it nor should they.

I've also know several young farang women who had 'rasta' boyfriends. Some of these guys were as bad as any bar girl - sucking money and having many sponsors on the go at the same time.

Edited April 9, 2015 by Loaded

[amykat]

I just want to be clear here, that I am not judging women who want to be with Thai guys ...in a relationship.

Personally, without listing the reasons why, I just can't understand, nor would I enjoy, paying someone for sex. So I was reacting to that.

However, maybe if I went out and felt that 75% of the men around me, were guys like George, or Cary Grant ...and they were available for $20 or $30, and ALL my friends did it, well maybe I would start to think differently. I probably would tend to go for the full "boyfriend" deal though and convince myself they really loved me rather than other options.

And next, I don't think Thai guys are known for good looks, probably for the exact reasons that the girls ARE known for good looks. That is a personal thing so if someone else likes that look, that is fine, but I believe it is not popular with my peers.

Apparently a lot of women really like those Korean pop stars who I hear are men?? Hard for me to see that they are men, they seem to be trying damn hard to look like very feminine girls, and I am not attracted to girls ...so not to them. I think for Western women, they would be low on the looks list.

In general, I wish sex exploitation did not exist, and I would feel bad about seeing any women buying hill tribe people, because it would fit that definition for me, and I would worry about that female too.

It is sad really that any discussion about love life, HERE, almost instantly turns into discussion about money and paying for sex ...like we are all doing that as normally as going grocery shopping. But that is what it is! Carry on everyone ....

Maybe the OP could chime in with some progress reports??

[beau thai]

I hope it's way too early for the OP to issue progress reports- other than to say he is in research mode. If he is looking for a life partner no doubt he will take more than a few days...

Not entirely sure without re-reading, how this thread about dating etiquette got immersed in 'paying for sex'..

There is a difference, in my mind at least, for a cash payment for a one nightstand (for guys, gals or Ladyboys), and a western/thai couple getting together for the long term,where the wealthier partner contributes to a better lifestyle for both.

In my experience in the west, women generally have on their mental list of attributes they look for in a partner, 'Is he a good provider'? Same same in Thailand. And why not?

And before I get misquoted, I didnt say it is the main criteria but just usually somewhere on the list. That's all. A quick Google check on Psychology Today reflects just that but maybe we are both wrong.

My point is that the OP should be able to date a younger woman if she makes him happy, and if she is at least partially attracted to him because he offers her a better lifestyle and treats her better than many thai men seem to treat their women, then that is their business, and good luck to them both.

Why should he feel criticized for 'fooling around' with a younger woman? If they are both happy together, like many farang/thai couples,, whatever the age gap, fine.

[true blue]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

Didn't you know, that "drooping grannies" around the world, have been hearing that Thailand has an excess amount of single, western "drooping GRANDPAS" wandering around looking for sex???

They are here for YOU "true blue"

sorry love I would rather cut my throat,than go or been seen with,a overweight crinkly blue rinse white farang female.if there is not at least a 50 year age gap with my thai female conquests im not really interested or aroused.

[Konini]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

We come here to stare disapprovingly at you, of course.

[Konini]

so funny this topic always wondered why a drooping grannie would want to come to los other than a holiday for a week or so.long term though no, surely there life is with there grand kids, or the bingo hall, or is it darby and joan clubs if there still desperate,for company, back home is the place,not here in Thailand.even they must admit next to most thai ladys there is no contest.5/6 years ago a elder farang lady was a rare sight in cnx,wondered why the change there is quite a few around now.

Didn't you know, that "drooping grannies" around the world, have been hearing that Thailand has an excess amount of single, western "drooping GRANDPAS" wandering around looking for sex???

They are here for YOU "true blue"

sorry love I would rather cut my throat,than go or been seen with,a overweight crinkly blue rinse white farang female.if there is not at least a 50 year age gap with my thai female conquests im not really interested or aroused.

Love! LOVE!!! Hold steady now girls.

(One time when we were back in UK whilst living in Australia I bought something in a shop and the checkout chic called me love. I was dumbfounded - hadn't been called Love since leaving England. Even my husband did a doubletake, and on the way out he whispered 'Did she just call you Love?')

Anyway, without wanting to disparage or insult you in any way, it's pretty obvious from your posts in this thread that you came to Thailand for the Thai girls - nothing wrong with that, good luck to you. But not everybody comes for that, and not only dried up wizened old hags - even men! I know a few who don't bother with girls (or boys, or katoeys). Maybe burnt from a previous relationship either here or back home, maybe (shock, horror) not everyone is overly interested in perusing that particular holy grail. We're here because why not? No other reason. Lived our first 23 years in England, a couple of years in NZ, 20 years in Melbourne, few years drifting around town to town and now we're in Chiang Mai. Because we can. And because why not. We have to live somewhere, it's as good as anywhere else, it suits us for the time being. Probably the same with a lot of other people too.

(I feel I have to balance the ledger by saying that as you are not interested or aroused in the 'grannies' hanging around town, I do hope that you have considered that the grannies are probably thinking the same thing about the grandpas around town, most of whom would find it hard to get a good reading on an arousal meter.)

[Berkshire]

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

I'm constantly amazed how people think that men and women are the same with regards to sex. Can you "perform" with a woman whom you are not attracted to? I certainly can't and it wouldn't matter how much money was thrown at me. It takes a certain kind of man to be able to perform under any and all conditions, which is why there are so few male prostitutes compared to women. I thought this was fairly well understood.

[uptheos]

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

I'm constantly amazed how people think that men and women are the same with regards to sex. Can you "perform" with a woman whom you are not attracted to? I certainly can't and it wouldn't matter how much money was thrown at me. It takes a certain kind of man to be able to perform under any and all conditions, which is why there are so few male prostitutes compared to women. I thought this was fairly well understood.

'Service' can mean many aspects of companionship, if you want to reduce it to purely sex that's your choice.

[Ozziepat]

OK, $0.02 more, or less.

If you want to date a western woman over 40, good luck with that.

If you want to have fun with a Thai woman, understand there are (simplistically speaking) several groups:

1. Educated, upper class Thais you will probably never meet. Most of these over 20-something will be married to upper class Thai men and have children.

2.Middle class (for Thai) women, often with some education, who are divorced , usually with children, and aren't impressed with Thai men. They are interested in financial stability and might or might not want marriage. many will be working women with shops or conventional jobs.

3. Lower class girls and women who are struggling in low paying jobs, or outright involved in sex for money, whose priorities are money, money and money. They might be fundamentally good people, but their circumstances have shaped their lives and priorities.

You can have friends from 2, and potentially a fun and rewarding relationship, but be up front about YOUR priorities and don't expect sex to happen in a hurry if at all. Thai women from proud families with old fashioned values don't as a rule do sex outside of marriage unless they are truly desperate, and you don't want to take advantage of that condition. Do plan to pay for most things, even if the woman has a job or business. All farang are (wrongly) viewed as wealthy by most Thais, so don't take it personally. General dating rule until you get to know someone MUCH better: honest, friendly, generous, considerate, undemanding, complimentary. Thai women are women, and they appreciate being treated this way. Western women of a certain age, depends.

Women (often younger) from from category 3 are generally amenable to just about anything - as a business proposition. Don't expect more than that and you won't be disappointed. They can be genuinely friendly, personable, etc., but not for long for free. And the quid pro quo can be many things: cash, clothes, better education or training, improved living conditions, scooter repair, mother's dental work... This list is endless. No need to bare your soul or bank account, and fewer "rules" apply. Just don't forget these girls are people and many have had few choices in life.

Good luck. :-)

[Berkshire]

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

I'm constantly amazed how people think that men and women are the same with regards to sex. Can you "perform" with a woman whom you are not attracted to? I certainly can't and it wouldn't matter how much money was thrown at me. It takes a certain kind of man to be able to perform under any and all conditions, which is why there are so few male prostitutes compared to women. I thought this was fairly well understood.

'Service' can mean many aspects of companionship, if you want to reduce it to purely sex that's your choice.

Well if that's what you mean...... When I think of male prostitutes, I can't help but think of the Richard Gere character in American Gigolo.

Edited April 10, 2015 by Berkshire

[MaeJoMTB]

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

I'm constantly amazed how people think that men and women are the same with regards to sex. Can you "perform" with a woman whom you are not attracted to? I certainly can't and it wouldn't matter how much money was thrown at me. It takes a certain kind of man to be able to perform under any and all conditions, which is why there are so few male prostitutes compared to women. I thought this was fairly well understood.

You can buy a tablet to solve that problem from 10bht up.

[chingmai331]

555. 10 baht for such a pill? U r mad. Well, maybe a compressed tab of horny goatweed buds but the aftertaste is less than pleasant and the mechanism of action non-existent.

A real pill, eg Cialis, will cost u about 500 baht each in paks of 4. Get it up and keep it there.

[MaeJoMTB]

555. 10 baht for such a pill? U r mad. Well, maybe a compressed tab of horny goatweed buds but the aftertaste is less than pleasant and the mechanism of action non-existent.

A real pill, eg Cialis, will cost u about 500 baht each in paks of 4. Get it up and keep it there.

Nope, Viagra from India sell for 40bht a packet of 4 (Burma boarder markets).

Fake in the definition of unlicensed, but work fine.

Thai government approved tablets are slightly more expensive at around 150bht for 4 from the pharmacy.

[BadBouy]

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

I'm constantly amazed how people think that men and women are the same with regards to sex. Can you "perform" with a woman whom you are not attracted to? I certainly can't and it wouldn't matter how much money was thrown at me. It takes a certain kind of man to be able to perform under any and all conditions, which is why there are so few male prostitutes compared to women. I thought this was fairly well understood.

'Service' can mean many aspects of companionship, if you want to reduce it to purely sex that's your choice.

With out "service" it is not a relationship just friendship/companionship. There are a good number of couples I know where men have hooked up with ladies for money, this is not just my opinion, it is shared by many of my friends that know these couples. The men have a decent or better education but are lazy EG one has a masters degree and builds bicycles for LL Bean, he is an absolute turd of a man. His lady is a very nice woman that fits the less delicately described appearance above, LPN with 6 figure salary which goes a long way in the state of Maine. There are more of this sort of man I am seeing now than ever before.

Berkshire I feel similar to you If I am not interested I can not fake it. I kin ow a number of men that fell the same way, and mostly because of woman's changing attitudes do not date all that often.

Here's a video about that by a young woman, kind of out of the mouth of babes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O60atA59xgE

[amexpat]

Unwatchable. She, like, mumbles and like, slurs in like, valley girl speech patterns with porn-style music thumping.

[NancyL]

If the young woman in the video is "typical" of young western women today, then it's no wonder western guys are interested in having a relationship with a Thai woman. That gal looks attractive enough, but the entire effect is destroyed the moment she speaks. She has a total inability to organize her thoughts, use appropriate vocabulary or enunciate properly. Looks like her local education system failed her as miserably.

[daoyai]

If the young woman in the video is "typical" of young western women today, then it's no wonder western guys are interested in having a relationship with a Thai woman. That gal looks attractive enough, but the entire effect is destroyed the moment she speaks. She has a total inability to organize her thoughts, use appropriate vocabulary or enunciate properly. Looks like her local education system failed her as miserably.

Her stream of conciousness rant does eventually start to make sense and she makes some valid points about dating amongst her socioeconomic class. I think many TVF males would find her interesting IF she were willing.

Edited April 11, 2015 by daoyai

[Loaded]

My kids were watching Doc McStuffins this morning on the Disney Junior channel. I was forced to watch.

In brief it's a young girl whose toys come alive when adults aren't around. It's normally good clean fun.

However, this morning I noticed the evil reach of feminism take over the story.

The knight in shining armour offered to help the princess in the tower. The princess became angry and said I don't need your help - fair enough - but then a song started and she started singing indignantly that anything a man could do, she could do better (not equally but better). They then charged each other on horses and guess what? that's right, the princess knocked the feeble knight off his horse. She then stood hands on hips and I thought she was about to kick him in the balls.

As an adult, I know this is ridiculous, but I started thinking that this was actually an insidious form of branwashing. it's a continuation of the subtle change in society in the West that has left men confused about their role and also in fear of women. That's right, fear; a woman can make an unsubstantiated claim of sexual assault/harassment against any man and he will be sacked/charged, possibly imprisoned and publicly named as a sex offender. And don't even mention divorce settlements for unsuccessful women who marry successful men.

I would hate to live in the West nowadays for this and a number of other reasons. I also think that it wouldn't be long before I clashed with a Western wife because it's absolutely ridiculous to say the genders are equally capable of the same things. Men should be allowed to behave like men imo and have opinions that they are not scared to voice.

Edited April 11, 2015 by Loaded

[ScarpoFongness4U]

It all washes out the first time she hands you her panties telling you they will be less chafing under your golf pants and you not only obey this seemingly innocuous command but you thank her for selecting the purple ones that matchesd your stripes on your socks and after the golf game you undress and ask if she has a clean pair for after your shower and if she isn't. Busy you have time to clean her feet and do her nails

[NancyL]

If the young woman in the video is "typical" of young western women today, then it's no wonder western guys are interested in having a relationship with a Thai woman. That gal looks attractive enough, but the entire effect is destroyed the moment she speaks. She has a total inability to organize her thoughts, use appropriate vocabulary or enunciate properly. Looks like her local education system failed her as miserably.

Her stream of conciousness rant does eventually start to make sense and she makes some valid points about dating amongst her socioeconomic class. I think many TVF males would find her interesting IF she were willing.

I suspect many TVF males would find her even more interesting if she simply stopped talking.

[chingmai331]

Nothing wrong with ladies panties under the golf trousers, regardless of color. But must be cotton as the nylon or rayon ones don't breathe well. The real task is finding a pair of ladies undies big enough to fit me well.

And if you think that any lady questions my unders whilst i'm taking them off in her presence, once she sees my hidden package her thoughts are truly focused on the meat of the matter.

[ScarpoFongness4U]

There's a lot of young single Thai guys that will gladly service the 'drooping grannies' if the price is right.

Age doesn't seem to be a barrier between young Thai girls and old men with money, so I would assume it works the other way too.

I'm constantly amazed how people think that men and women are the same with regards to sex. Can you "perform" with a woman whom you are not attracted to? I certainly can't and it wouldn't matter how much money was thrown at me. It takes a certain kind of man to be able to perform under any and all conditions, which is why there are so few male prostitutes compared to women. I thought this was fairly well understood.

'Service' can mean many aspects of companionship, if you want to reduce it to purely sex that's your choice.

With out "service" it is not a relationship just friendship/companionship. There are a good number of couples I know where men have hooked up with ladies for money, this is not just my opinion, it is shared by many of my friends that know these couples. The men have a decent or better education but are lazy EG one has a masters degree and builds bicycles for LL Bean, he is an absolute turd of a man. His lady is a very nice woman that fits the less delicately described appearance above, LPN with 6 figure salary which goes a long way in the state of Maine. There are more of this sort of man I am seeing now than ever before.

Berkshire I feel similar to you If I am not interested I can not fake it. I kin ow a number of men that fell the same way, and mostly because of woman's changing attitudes do not date all that often.

Here's a video about that by a young woman, kind of out of the mouth of babes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O60atA59xgE

I like her style, but I'll still pay for her dinner

[WinnieTheKhwai]

OK, $0.02 more, or less.

If you want to have fun with a Thai woman, understand there are (simplistically speaking) several groups:

1. Educated, upper class Thais you will probably never meet. Most of these over 20-something will be married to upper class Thai men and have children.

2.Middle class (for Thai) women, often with some education, who are divorced , usually with children, and aren't impressed with Thai men. They are interested in financial stability and might or might not want marriage. many will be working women with shops or conventional jobs.

3. Lower class girls and women who are struggling in low paying jobs, or outright involved in sex for money, whose priorities are money, money and money. They might be fundamentally good people, but their circumstances have shaped their lives and priorities.

You can have friends from 2, and potentially a fun and rewarding relationship, but be up front about YOUR priorities and don't expect sex to happen in a hurry if at all. Thai women from proud families with old fashioned values don't as a rule do sex outside of marriage unless they are truly desperate, and you don't want to take advantage of that condition.

How about middle class women with a perfectly fine uni education and job, who aren't divorced and don't have children and also realize it's the 21st century when it comes to sexual attitude?

(EDIT: Although your categories may have been specifically intended for the OP who is close to 60 years old; then it's indeed pretty likely that someone aged 40 or so and up has been divorced or widowed. (Not sure though why they wouldn't be impressed with Thai men categorically; also that would be a problem because there aren't too many non-Thai men to go around, compared to the overall single female population.)

And the holding out for sex was very last century. And especially if they're divorced with children; if sex doesn't happen within a week then frankly I'd be looking at alternatives.

Edited April 12, 2015 by WinnieTheKhwai

[uptheos]

I think a lot of the older foreign ladies would be more attractive if they learned to dress appropriately, particularly the overweight ladies.

Clothes that are too tight or wearing wide flower printed dresses that looks like a tent, in order to try and disguise their size just isn't cool.

I've often criticized Thai women in the past for being unable to throw an outfit together, i.e. finishing it off with sparkling shoes and a hello kitty bag with keys dangling, but it seems that foreign ladies are just as bad if not worse, but in a different sort of way.

[Beng]

Most important don't is...don't lose face ever.

[ScarpoFongness4U]

The older western women in Thailand are not seeking sex

The women 35-55 are not looking for sex,

They in most cases talk to a wetsern man they think is a sexpat

If your lucky you find the lone tourist from Europe or Asia

The american girls dont have the same problem as they are more predators and know what they want and waste no time

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