Request to lift hold of Obama immigration action denied

[Publicus]

The current anti-immigration Texas lawsuit that the tea party Judge Hanen has endorsed was in fact authored by Kris Kobach, the notorious anti-immigrant lawyer and Kansas Secretary of State who authored Arizona’s SB 1070 which was stricken by SCOTUS in 2012 and who is notorious for his disastrous advice to Romney to run on the platform of “self-deportation.”

A Washington Post article published shortly after the President’s immigration executive order noted Kobach was already drafting a lawsuit and that Texas was interested in being a plaintiff. While Koback is not himself involved in the current suit, Koback is its author and its generator.

As for the extremist tea party Judge Hanen himself, in one case Hanen criticized the federal government for not bringing criminal charges against an undocumented immigrant mother whom DHS allowed to be lawfully reunited with her child, a law enacted during the administration of George W. Bush who was the same president who appointed Judge Hanen to the US District Court in southern Texas which is where the current case was filed.

In another case, Hanen wrote a 4-page opinion criticizing federal immigration policy, even though the policy had nothing to do with the legal immigrant defendant. (Source: U.S. v. Cabrera,711 F.Supp.2d 736 (S.D. Tex. May 4, 2010)).

In several other cases Judge Hanen attacked DHS for observing various existing rules and regulations that apply to certain immigrants and which are mandated or permitted by the immigration laws. http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?8483-Judge-Hanen-s-Anti-immigrant-Executive-Action-Ruling-Was-No-Surprise-By-Roger-Algase

The Republican party obliterated itself in California with its anti-immigration policies of Republican Gov Pete Wilson and Prop 138 during the 1970s. and 1980s. Since then, California has become a minority-majority state that the Democratic party has dominated in its voting over the past five elections of the president, in elections of its governor and for both houses of its state legislature. So keep it going nationally youse guyz cause you're making the GOP into the Gone Old Party of the United States exactly as it did to itself in California.

http://americasvoice.org/blog/icymi-e-j-dionne-raises-fundamental-question-facing-2016-gop-candidates-can-the-gop-learn-from-california/

Publicus my friend, when you write something that long which is heavily interspersed with terms like "extremist", "tea party," notorious", "disastrous" and so on, I don't read it. It is OTT verbosity, and contumelious, contemptuous and supercilious.

Could you please try to be more pithy?

Cheers

Thx for the promo.

Those are words that get peoples' attention cause for one thing, they are true.

Youse guyz can't refute the facts either, in post after post, thread after thread, for a long time now.

Youse guyz can read and while you quote from the post also say you don't read, yet it doesn't refute the posts I make to each immigration thread.

The Gone Old Party sounds better and better to me because it's likely to be succeeded by something better overall.

[JDGRUEN]

The current anti-immigration Texas lawsuit that the tea party Judge Hanen has endorsed was in fact authored by Kris Kobach, the notorious anti-immigrant lawyer and Kansas Secretary of State who authored Arizona’s SB 1070 which was stricken by SCOTUS in 2012 and who is notorious for his disastrous advice to Romney to run on the platform of “self-deportation.”

A Washington Post article published shortly after the President’s immigration executive order noted Kobach was already drafting a lawsuit and that Texas was interested in being a plaintiff. While Koback is not himself involved in the current suit, Koback is its author and its generator.

As for the extremist tea party Judge Hanen himself, in one case Hanen criticized the federal government for not bringing criminal charges against an undocumented immigrant mother whom DHS allowed to be lawfully reunited with her child, a law enacted during the administration of George W. Bush who was the same president who appointed Judge Hanen to the US District Court in southern Texas which is where the current case was filed.

In another case, Hanen wrote a 4-page opinion criticizing federal immigration policy, even though the policy had nothing to do with the legal immigrant defendant. (Source: U.S. v. Cabrera,711 F.Supp.2d 736 (S.D. Tex. May 4, 2010)).

In several other cases Judge Hanen attacked DHS for observing various existing rules and regulations that apply to certain immigrants and which are mandated or permitted by the immigration laws. http://blogs.ilw.com/entry.php?8483-Judge-Hanen-s-Anti-immigrant-Executive-Action-Ruling-Was-No-Surprise-By-Roger-Algase

The Republican party obliterated itself in California with its anti-immigration policies of Republican Gov Pete Wilson and Prop 138 during the 1970s. and 1980s. Since then, California has become a minority-majority state that the Democratic party has dominated in its voting over the past five elections of the president, in elections of its governor and for both houses of its state legislature. So keep it going nationally youse guyz cause you're making the GOP into the Gone Old Party of the United States exactly as it did to itself in California.

http://americasvoice.org/blog/icymi-e-j-dionne-raises-fundamental-question-facing-2016-gop-candidates-can-the-gop-learn-from-california/

Publicus my friend, when you write something that long which is heavily interspersed with terms like "extremist", "tea party," notorious", "disastrous" and so on, I don't read it. It is OTT verbosity, and contumelious, contemptuous and supercilious.

Could you please try to be more pithy?

Cheers

Thx for the promo.

Those are words that get peoples' attention cause for one thing, they are true.

Youse guyz can't refute the facts either, in post after post, thread after thread, for a long time now.

Youse guyz can read and while you quote from the post also say you don't read, yet it doesn't refute the posts I make to each immigration thread.

The Gone Old Party sounds better and better to me because it's likely to be succeeded by something better overall.

Only true in the mind of a Liberal / Leftist /Progressive/Socialist who lives in a very small box of a world...

[pitrevie]

Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

Perhaps you could tell us how is this any different to the same actions carried out by the Emperors Reagan and Bush Senior.

Emperor Reagan in fact bypassed Congress far more times with far more executive orders than ever has been the case with the present emperor.

[Ulysses G.]

Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

Perhaps you could tell us how is this any different to the same actions carried out by the Emperors Reagan and Bush Senior.

Their executive orders were connected to existing legislation and constitutional. Obama's was NOT.

"I understand there's disagreement over the president's executive order last September. I think it was wrong. Members on the other side don't," Jolly said. "A federal judge has said it's unconstitutional. The president of the United States said over 20 times he didn't have the authority to do it, and yet he did it."

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/mar/05/david-jolly/federal-judge-called-obama-immigration-action-unco/

[pitrevie]

Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

Perhaps you could tell us how is this any different to the same actions carried out by the Emperors Reagan and Bush Senior.

Their executive orders were connected to existing legislation and constitutional. Obama's was NOT.

"I understand there's disagreement over the president's executive order last September. I think it was wrong. Members on the other side don't," Jolly said. "A federal judge has said it's unconstitutional. The president of the United States said over 20 times he didn't have the authority to do it, and yet he did it."

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/mar/05/david-jolly/federal-judge-called-obama-immigration-action-unco/

Well nothing in your link indicates that is the case in fact the matter is still pending in the judicial process.

However the fact is that both Reagan and Bush senior passed similar amnesties using executive orders which presumably were not needed if the legislation was already in place.

Also if this Emperor has bypassed congress so many times causing such outrage perhaps you could point to previous posts where you expressed similar outrage at the previous incumbent bypassing congress far more times with executive orders.

[chuckd]

Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

Perhaps you could tell us how is this any different to the same actions carried out by the Emperors Reagan and Bush Senior.

Their executive orders were connected to existing legislation and constitutional. Obama's was NOT.

"I understand there's disagreement over the president's executive order last September. I think it was wrong. Members on the other side don't," Jolly said. "A federal judge has said it's unconstitutional. The president of the United States said over 20 times he didn't have the authority to do it, and yet he did it."

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/mar/05/david-jolly/federal-judge-called-obama-immigration-action-unco/

Well nothing in your link indicates that is the case in fact the matter is still pending in the judicial process.

However the fact is that both Reagan and Bush senior passed similar amnesties using executive orders which presumably were not needed if the legislation was already in place.

Also if this Emperor has bypassed congress so many times causing such outrage perhaps you could point to previous posts where you expressed similar outrage at the previous incumbent bypassing congress far more times with executive orders.

You have obviously never heard of Executive Memoranda. The following article explains them rather well.

I have posted this article before but have no wish to dig through and find it. Trust me, it is on the forum somewhere.

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Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'

Gregory Korte, USA TODAY 1:16 p.m. EST December 17, 2014

WASHINGTON — President Obama has issued a form of executive action known as the presidential memorandum more often than any other president in history — using it to take unilateral action even as he has signed fewer executive orders.

When these two forms of directives are taken together, Obama is on track to take more high-level executive actions than any president since Harry Truman battled the "Do Nothing Congress" almost seven decades ago, according to a USA TODAY review of presidential documents.

Obama has issued executive orders to give federal employees the day after Christmas off, to impose economic sanctions and to determine how national secrets are classified. He's used presidential memoranda to make policy on gun control, immigration and labor regulations. Tuesday, he used a memorandum to declare Bristol Bay, Alaska, off-limits to oil and gas exploration.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/obama-presidential-memoranda-executive-orders/20191805/

[JDGRUEN]

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Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen's decision NOT TO REVERSE HIS RULING is no surprise. The government will get the reversal at the Court of Appeals.

Of the three judges in the 5th. Circuit Court of Appeals - TWO have already expressed deep concern over the Obama Amnesty effort and all the underhanded tricks to keep it going... So do not count on an Appeals court ... it will be the SCOTUS and that is likely to be AFTER Obama is replaced as President. Since Obama has not actually issued an Executive Order to do this -- but by mere memorandum to the Secretary of the DHS (who will also be replaced) ... the whole affair will die - unless resurrected by Hillary (God Forbid)... or simply thrown in the trash can done by Cruz, Walker, and/or a number of other Conservatives who might become President.

[chuckd]

My post number 36 is an article dated December 2014.

The following link is from today concerning Obama's executive actions, bypassing Congress in many instances.

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Obama's executive action rollouts increasing in pace

Gregory Korte, USA TODAY 7:11 p.m. EDT April 22, 2015

WASHINGTON — As President Obama stood in an Everglades swamp to speak on climate change Wednesday, the White House rolled out a package of eight executive actions, implemented by seven government agencies, to "protect the people and places that climate change puts at risk."

The announcement contained no executive orders, sweeping directives, legislative proposals or bill signings.

Instead, the actions include smaller-bore staples of a "pen-and-phone" strategy that shows no sign of letting up: a report on the value of parks to the environment, a proclamation declaring National Parks Week, and conservation efforts in Florida, Hawaii, Puget Sound and the Great Lakes.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said the actions were an effort to deal with the impacts of climate change "even in the face of pretty significant opposition from Republicans in Congress."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/04/22/obama-executive-actions-increasing/25828391/

[arjunadawn]

Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

Perhaps you could tell us how is this any different to the same actions carried out by the Emperors Reagan and Bush Senior.

Emperor Reagan in fact bypassed Congress far more times with far more executive orders than ever has been the case with the present emperor.

The difference you seek an explanation of is contained in the statements- "bypass congress."

Executive Orders are not good or bad or small or many and thus these qualities define their utility. EOs are designed to implement the will of the congress in the executive branch of government. One hundred, 30, 1,000, whatever it takes; its pointless if the executive. However, EO are narrowly useful and can never supplant legislation. What is egregious are those EOs that are in essence "another attempt to bypass Congress and the Constitution," a bridge EO cannot cross. Herein lies the difference, not in sheer numbers. Osa..Obama is stretching the limits in much the same way someone watches curiously as a customer bites into a shit sandwich, marveling at how much they can eat if taking only one bite at a time. Might was well encourage bigger bites next time. after all, the goal is to get the sandwich eaten.

[thaibeachlovers]

yes but close to 100% of those voters are also immigrants or descendants of immigrants.

That's a fatuous argumernt, given that all humans on earth originated from a tribe in Africa that migrated elsewhere.

[thaibeachlovers]

Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

Perhaps you could tell us how is this any different to the same actions carried out by the Emperors Reagan and Bush Senior.

Emperor Reagan in fact bypassed Congress far more times with far more executive orders than ever has been the case with the present emperor.

Just because Reagan was a bad president does not make Obama "good". The US has been poorly served by it's last several presidents. Kennedy probably did the best in my memory.

[Publicus]

Good for Judge Hanen. This is yet another attempt to bypass Congress and the constitution by the Emperor President. Don't let him get away with it.

Perhaps you could tell us how is this any different to the same actions carried out by the Emperors Reagan and Bush Senior.

Their executive orders were connected to existing legislation and constitutional. Obama's was NOT.

"I understand there's disagreement over the president's executive order last September. I think it was wrong. Members on the other side don't," Jolly said. "A federal judge has said it's unconstitutional. The president of the United States said over 20 times he didn't have the authority to do it, and yet he did it."

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/mar/05/david-jolly/federal-judge-called-obama-immigration-action-unco/

Judge Hanen consciously and deliberately did not address the issue of constitutionality, preferring instead to try writing new law under the Administrative Procedures Act of 1946, which will not fly.

A judge in Pennsylvania made a personal opinion statement that Cong Jolly quoted, and the judge's personal opinion statement is obiter dicta, which means it has no bearing on anything in the judges ruling which was anyway on an issue of immigration law, and the PA judge in fact suggested the immigrant apply for the Executive Action program that was later enjoined by the tea party Judge Hanen down there in Texas.

Omitted from the post was the statement by Politifact that...

"Any party can raise an alleged constitutional violation," Cornell law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr said. "Only when the Supreme Court rules on the executive action’s constitutionality will that issue be resolved once and for all."

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/mar/05/david-jolly/federal-judge-called-obama-immigration-action-unco/

So let's knock off the unconstitutional stuff cause the immigration EO is not at issue in the US courts at any level in any case. It's political rhetoric entirely and completely. No judge anywhere has ruled the president's immigration EO unconstitutional.

One of the president's many other EO actions have been ruled unconstitutional by a lower federal court, and one EO only. And that one is a long way from SCOTUS.

[chuckd]

Would you please provide the number of the immigration Executive Order signed by President Obama that is in a holding pattern as a result of Judge Hanen's decision?

You keep referring to it yet I can't seem to find the details on it.

[Publicus]

Would you please provide the number of the immigration Executive Order signed by President Obama that is in a holding pattern as a result of Judge Hanen's decision?

You keep referring to it yet I can't seem to find the details on it.

The reference pertains to the posts concerning the Executive Action on immigration that Judge Hanen has enjoined.

(Emphases added.)

"Any party can raise an alleged constitutional violation," Cornell law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr said. "Only when the Supreme Court rules on the executive action’s constitutionality will that issue be resolved once and for all."

http://www.politifac...on-action-unco/

As has been discussed in other threads (ho-hum), there is the Executive Order, Executive Memorandum, Executive Action.

The suit before the tea party Judge Hanen is against Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnston for issuing an executive memorandum pertaining to immigration, which is under the perview of the Department. But you ho-hum knew that.

Including my post in your reply would help to clarify the issues to you as you yourself post in the dim light of these wee hours.

[NeverSure]

Would you please provide the number of the immigration Executive Order signed by President Obama that is in a holding pattern as a result of Judge Hanen's decision?

You keep referring to it yet I can't seem to find the details on it.

The reference pertains to the posts concerning the Executive Action on immigration that Judge Hanen has enjoined.

(Emphases added.)

"Any party can raise an alleged constitutional violation," Cornell law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr said. "Only when the Supreme Court rules on the executive action’s constitutionality will that issue be resolved once and for all."

http://www.politifac...on-action-unco/

As has been discussed in other threads (ho-hum), there is the Executive Order, Executive Memorandum, Executive Action.

The suit before the tea party Judge Hanen is against Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnston for issuing an executive memorandum pertaining to immigration, which is under the perview of the Department. But you ho-hum knew that.

Including my post in your reply would help to clarify the issues to you as you yourself post in the dim light of these wee hours.

There isn't one and our friend Publicus missed the (not so) subtle nature of your question.

Please try again, Publicus.

"Would you please provide the number of the immigration Executive Order signed by President Obama that is in a holding pattern as a result of Judge Hanen's decision?"

[Publicus]

Would you please provide the number of the immigration Executive Order signed by President Obama that is in a holding pattern as a result of Judge Hanen's decision?

You keep referring to it yet I can't seem to find the details on it.

The reference pertains to the posts concerning the Executive Action on immigration that Judge Hanen has enjoined.

(Emphases added.)

"Any party can raise an alleged constitutional violation," Cornell law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr said. "Only when the Supreme Court rules on the executive action’s constitutionality will that issue be resolved once and for all."

http://www.politifac...on-action-unco/

As has been discussed in other threads (ho-hum), there is the Executive Order, Executive Memorandum, Executive Action.

The suit before the tea party Judge Hanen is against Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnston for issuing an executive memorandum pertaining to immigration, which is under the perview of the Department. But you ho-hum knew that.

Including my post in your reply would help to clarify the issues to you as you yourself post in the dim light of these wee hours.

There isn't one and our friend Publicus missed the (not so) subtle nature of your question.

Please try again, Publicus.

"Would you please provide the number of the immigration Executive Order signed by President Obama that is in a holding pattern as a result of Judge Hanen's decision?"

Immigration executive action. It's always been that.

I inadvertently used "Executive Order" in my post meaning Executive Action. Anyone reading my posts throughout this executive action ballyhoo knows I refer to an executive action. I even noted in my post above that the tea party right wing anti-immigrant judge Andrew Hanen enjoined DHS Secretary Jeh Johnston who had issued an executive memorandum to DHS which has executive jurisdiction over immigration.

Executive Action.

So he's still in the dim light of the wee hours.

[NeverSure]

So let's knock off the unconstitutional stuff cause the immigration EO is not at issue in the US courts at any level in any case. It's political rhetoric entirely and completely. No judge anywhere has ruled the president's immigration EO unconstitutional.

"No judge anywhere has ruled the president's immigration EO unconstitutional." - Publicus

So to continue, which executive administrative order did the president make?

I grant you a brain fart for executive rather than administrative, but not for saying it was by the president.

You owe me five bucks.

[NeverSure]

Oh Puuuuublicuuuuuus........

[Publicus]

So let's knock off the unconstitutional stuff cause the immigration EO is not at issue in the US courts at any level in any case. It's political rhetoric entirely and completely. No judge anywhere has ruled the president's immigration EO unconstitutional.

"No judge anywhere has ruled the president's immigration EO unconstitutional." - Publicus

So to continue, which executive administrative order did the president make?

I grant you a brain fart for executive rather than administrative, but not for saying it was by the president.

You owe me five bucks.

Yea, just got back from a several city journey involving heavy and very fruitful negotiations.

So based on the following quote, I'll meet that and raise you ten.

A Mitt Romney ten000

"Any party can raise an alleged constitutional violation," Cornell law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr said. "Only when the Supreme Court rules on the executive action’s constitutionality will that issue be resolved once and for all." (Emphasis added.)

http://www.politifac...on-action-unco/

Any questions call my lawyer who's probably still at the spa.

Edited May 3, 2015 by Publicus

[NeverSure]

"No judge anywhere has ruled the president's immigration EO unconstitutional." - Publicus

So to continue, which executive administrative order did the president make?

I grant you a brain fart for executive rather than administrative, but not for saying it was by the president.

You owe me five bucks.

Yea, just got back from a several city journey involving heavy and very fruitful negotiations.

So based on the following quote, I'll meet that and raise you ten.

A Mitt Romney ten000

"Any party can raise an alleged constitutional violation," Cornell law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr said. "Only when the Supreme Court rules on the executive action’s constitutionality will that issue be resolved once and for all." (Emphasis added.)

http://www.politifac...on-action-unco/

Any questions call my lawyer who's probably still at the spa.

I see that you and a whole bunch of people owe me five bucks. I'm rich!

I'll reduce the fine to one cup of coffee the next time I'm in LOS.

[Publicus]

KFC Silom.

[chuckd]

Oopsie!!!

It seems that DHS (Homeland Security) and DOJ (Justice) have been at it again. DOJ attorneys provided a statement to Judge Hanen at midnight last Thursday that they had given him erroneous information yet again.

Maybe they thought if they told him at midnight, everything would go away with the crack of dawn. An attempted cover-up by a bunch of over paid, under qualified lawyers would seem to have been one of the more ill advised courses of action to take, even with some "hick" federal judge from Texas.

I haven't seen Judge Hanen's response to the latest faux pas by the crack team of attorneys from DOJ trying to misrepresent the actions of DHS, but it might be interesting reading.

This is getting interestinger and interestinger.

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DHS broke judge’s order, approved amnesty applications despite injunction

Exclusive Washington Times Daily Briefing (May 8, 2015)

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Friday, May 8, 2015

President Obama’s lawyers admitted to a federal judge late Thursday that they had broken the court’s injunction halting the administration’s new deportation amnesty, issuing thousands of work permits even after Judge Andrew S. Hanen had ordered the program stopped.

The stunning admission, filed just before midnight in Texas, where the case is being heard, is the latest misstep for the administration’s lawyers, who are facing possible sanctions by Judge Hanen for their continued problems in arguing the case.

The Justice Department lawyers said Homeland Security, which is the defendant in the case, told them Wednesday that an immigration agency had approved about 2,000 applications for three-year work permits, which was part of Mr. Obama’s new amnesty, even after Judge Hanen issued his Feb. 16 injunction halting the entire program.

Top Obama officials, including Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, had repeatedly assured Congress they had fully halted the program and were complying with the order.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/8/dhs-broke-judges-order-oks-amnesty-applications/#ixzz3ZbmCx3gs

PS: Save the pedantic slings and arrows. I know the words don't exist.

Edited May 9, 2015 by chuckd

[Publicus]

Oopsie!!!

It seems that DHS (Homeland Security) and DOJ (Justice) have been at it again. DOJ attorneys provided a statement to Judge Hanen at midnight last Thursday that they had given him erroneous information yet again.

Maybe they thought if they told him at midnight, everything would go away with the crack of dawn. An attempted cover-up by a bunch of over paid, under qualified lawyers would seem to have been one of the more ill advised courses of action to take, even with some "hick" federal judge from Texas.

I haven't seen Judge Hanen's response to the latest faux pas by the crack team of attorneys from DOJ trying to misrepresent the actions of DHS, but it might be interesting reading.

This is getting interestinger and interestinger.

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DHS broke judge’s order, approved amnesty applications despite injunction

Exclusive Washington Times Daily Briefing (May 8, 2015)

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Friday, May 8, 2015

President Obama’s lawyers admitted to a federal judge late Thursday that they had broken the court’s injunction halting the administration’s new deportation amnesty, issuing thousands of work permits even after Judge Andrew S. Hanen had ordered the program stopped.

The stunning admission, filed just before midnight in Texas, where the case is being heard, is the latest misstep for the administration’s lawyers, who are facing possible sanctions by Judge Hanen for their continued problems in arguing the case.

The Justice Department lawyers said Homeland Security, which is the defendant in the case, told them Wednesday that an immigration agency had approved about 2,000 applications for three-year work permits, which was part of Mr. Obama’s new amnesty, even after Judge Hanen issued his Feb. 16 injunction halting the entire program.

Top Obama officials, including Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, had repeatedly assured Congress they had fully halted the program and were complying with the order.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/8/dhs-broke-judges-order-oks-amnesty-applications/#ixzz3ZbmCx3gs

PS: Save the pedantic slings and arrows. I know the words don't exist.

Oopsie!! An attempted cover-up

Oopsie indeed. Only the tea party Republican far right would see apparitions of an attempted coverup in this typical bureaucratic snafu. So here are the facts for the politically normal among us to find out.

The immigration executive action expanded the dependent children's program, DACA, under which illegal parents of citizen children can apply for a deportation deferral .

A bunch of applications from the original program and the expanded program got mixed and mingled. The consequence, is that Department of Homeland Security, which regulates immigration under the laws, discovered in March that some applications under the expanded program had been filed and approved, along with those of the original program.

Judge Hanen had issued his injunction in February. So the bureaucratic mishap resulted in the expanded program applications being approved after the judge's injunction against the federal government.

DoJ lawyers were then informed by DHS.

Doj lawyers immediately brought the matter to the attention of the court, in this instance Judge Hanen down there Texas way. DoJ lawyers said they and the DHS were showing good faith by reporting the processing snafu to the judge and doing it immediately. Indeed, DoJ attorneys yesterday said they would further update the judge as soon as May 15th. DHS Secretary Jeh Johnston said he has ordered the DHS Inspector General to fully examine and audit the matter.

That's what's happened, nothing more.

It needs to be noted that most Americans are unaware that a judge issuing an injunction against the federal government is a radical, sudden, rare event. Judge Hanen is only the fifth federal judge to enjoin the US Government since the end of World War 2. Let's hope Hanen's notorious tea party politics don't take him closer to the cliff than he already has gone given what is plainly a typical federal government modern bureaucracy snafu.

http://www.law360.com/articles/633921/doj-strives-to-fend-off-sanctions-in-immigration-action-suit

[chuckd]

An "oopsie" would be 10-20 mistakes. A plan to flout a ruling by a federal judge would be 2,000+ mistakes.

[Loptr]

I wonder if a Federal Judge can hold the DHS in contempt of court?

This judge should stay away from tall buildings and nail guns...

[Publicus]

An "oopsie" would be 10-20 mistakes. A plan to flout a ruling by a federal judge would be 2,000+ mistakes.

Show the "plan" and how 'the plan' the right wing find specifically contradict the fact pattern of the circumstance.

No shoulda coulda ifs ands or buts...show and prove "a plan" exists.

The "plan" is in fact yet more visions of sugar plumbs and tea bags dancing in right wing heads.

[Publicus]

Still waiting on the ruling of the three-judge panel of the US 5th Circuit Court of Appeals which sits in New Orleans on the DoJ appeal of Judge Hanen's temporary injunction against Prez Obama's immigration executive action.

It is the most conservative of the US circuit courts of appeal and this panel of three judges has one judge appointed by Reagan, one appointed by Bush, one by Prez Obama, so the outlook is not good for the good guys.

SCOTUS and doomsday for Judge Hanen and the 26 states comes sometime after that.

Justice Antonin Scalia the far right guy appointed by Reagan is the circuit justice for this case if it goes urgently to the SCOTUS, which means he himself would hear the case or he could refer it to the whole SCOTUS then and there.

Still waiting......

[Scott]

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