Denied entry from old pot arrest

[donamigos1]

I recently came back to Thailand after being gone for 3 years. I left behind my wife and 11 month old daughter. I had to go back to the states to take care of some serious business which involved me regaining my freedom to travel.
I had no idea that I would have to be gone so long.
So I'm coming back to be with my daughter and make music again and I'm told at Bangkok airport I can't enter because I'm on a bad list.
I had paid off the police and was exonerated from the charge but apparently I wasted thb 60k.
I am currently in Malaysia trying to find a way to go back so I can get my daughter's American citizenship and passport. I can start the process here at Kuala Lumpur US embassy but my daughter still has to go to Bangkok to be seen by the embassy. My wife, although we were never married, is now in jail in Phuket as of 2 days ago for an undetermined time.
How can I get into Thailand legally so I can take care of my daughter , get her paperwork in order and help my one time wife in her crisis.

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[konying]

I would imagine getting well connected law firm would be a good start.

I am sure many would be asking why your wife is jailed indefinitely, but in the end of the day, your daughter is a priority, so again well connected firm, which sadly does mean "not cheap" but it might help not only to remove your name from the black list but also to expedite the whole process as i would imagine you would want to either take your daughter with you or stay to look after her.

[nzexpat]

If this is a genuine post seeking assistance then in my opinion you would be best advised to employ a Thai lawyer who may be able to make sense of your seemingly complex personal circumstance.

[Mario2008]

You can try to enter and will be denied, at that moment you can appeal to the minister who has to make a decision within 1 week or allow you to enter. Given the fact that you were not convicted you might be lucky. But you will need a lawyer.

It might also be that you have a conviction in the US and were on an international wanted list. That would also be a reason to deny you entry, in which case you would be allowed to proof that you were not convicted. A foreign conviction is reason to deny you entry.

[donamigos1]

I'm on it.

[donamigos1]

Completely a free man with no warrants, wants of any kind. And have document I'm completely exonerated from the charge.

[donamigos1]

I am a very successful musician and have performed worldwide. I preformed in three resorts in Phuket in as many years and have a great bunch of expats and Thai players just waiting. It will happen God willing.

[donamigos1]

Ps. Wife has a very temporary issue. We hope. The timing couldn't be worse but daughter is safe and well cared for.

[ericthai]

I don't understand why you are unable to get into Thailand if you have no warrants. Did you find out if the issues is with Thailand or the USA?

Seems you had issues in the USA and Thailand are you sure both of these issues have been taken care of 100%?

If you don't know then I would get in contact with Thai immigration and find out who has you on a list, USA or Thailand. If the USA contact whoever in the USA has you on a restricted travel list. If Thailand then you need to speak to Thai immigration and find out why you are on the black list and what you need to do to get removed from the black list.

If you had drug charges in Thailand that could be the issue, even if all fines have been paid they can still put you on a black list preventing entry into Thailand for X amount of years. If you cant get any information from Thai Immigration on how to get removed from the list then it seems you have two choices.

1) Try to enter Thailand at a boarder crossing

2) Do as Mario has suggested and get a lawyer to an appeal.

If I were you I would go to Penang and then travel via train into Thailand, have 10,000B or equivalent in hand ready to show immigration along with a plane ticket out of Thailand prior to your 30 days to stay if entering on visa exempt or in line with any other visa you may be entering on. At the same be prepared to have a a lawyer ready that if or when refused entry into Thailand he is ready to appeal to the minster.

[Maestro]

Removed a troll post and the replies to it.

[Thanyaburi Mac]

The Immigration www site has info on how to check if you're on a blacklist, see below.

Mac

http://immigration.go.th/FAQs/index_en.html

14. Arrival and departure information

Please contact Information Technology Center Tel. 0 2286 2774

1. self checking

Thai

- I.D. Card or passport and a copy

Alien

- passport and a copy of passport

2. second party

Thai

- Power of attorney with 10 baht revenue stamp

- I.D. Card or passport and a copy of both proxy and attorney

Alien residence and Blacklist information data

Checking informaton of Information Technology

system. Immigration Bureau will check this

information in case of Legal Execution Department,

Ministry of Justice inform the Immigration Bureau

to record of watchlist alien such as order control

of their property including Bankruptcy

1. self checking

If alien wishes to check his status against the

watchlist information, he should execute the following:

- Check passport and fill out application form

at Immigration Detention Center

2. second party

- Should obtain Power of attorney and copy of

I.D. card of both proxy and attorney and then fill out

application form

Contact Investigation Division Tel. 0 2287 3101

[MobileContent]

I don't understand why you are unable to get into Thailand if you have no warrants. Did you find out if the issues is with Thailand or the USA?

Seems you had issues in the USA and Thailand are you sure both of these issues have been taken care of 100%?

If you don't know then I would get in contact with Thai immigration and find out who has you on a list, USA or Thailand. If the USA contact whoever in the USA has you on a restricted travel list. If Thailand then you need to speak to Thai immigration and find out why you are on the black list and what you need to do to get removed from the black list.

If you had drug charges in Thailand that could be the issue, even if all fines have been paid they can still put you on a black list preventing entry into Thailand for X amount of years. If you cant get any information from Thai Immigration on how to get removed from the list then it seems you have two choices.

1) Try to enter Thailand at a boarder crossing

2) Do as Mario has suggested and get a lawyer to an appeal.

If I were you I would go to Penang and then travel via train into Thailand, have 10,000B or equivalent in hand ready to show immigration along with a plane ticket out of Thailand prior to your 30 days to stay if entering on visa exempt or in line with any other visa you may be entering on. At the same be prepared to have a a lawyer ready that if or when refused entry into Thailand he is ready to appeal to the minster.

I would be very careful taking a train into Thailand from Malaysia such as Padang Besar. If he gets demied entry into Thailand the Thai's will inform the Malaysian immigration and if they find out that drugs are involved in either Thailand or the US he might just get a 3 days stamps to fly out of Malaysia and possible a flight back to the US and Malaysia doesn't send potential drug convicts to another ASEAN country.

I would go for a lawyer and have a lot of cash on hand.

[gchurch259]

I hope you have developed some "Self Discipline" since you had a problem with it before. Good luck !!

[gemguy]

The OP's situation seems to be a situation just begging to be corrected with some well placed money....if you know what I mean.

Cheers

[godden]

Yes you need a shark, sorry lawyer.

[jackanapes]

you had to go back to the states to regain your freedom to travel ? are you on a black list in the states ? did you get a clearance certificate from the police re the old charge it seems to me the police haven't cleared you at all they've put you on the black list I think you are between a rock and a hard place you need to get a very good lawyer to deal with the problem .

[phuketrichard]

If this is a genuine post seeking assistance then in my opinion you would be best advised to employ a Thai lawyer who may be able to make sense of your seemingly complex personal circumstance.

forget a thai lawyer

contact Tilleke and Gibbins in Bangkok http://tilleke.com/

, it will cost ya but ur daughter is worth whatever you have an than some!!!

[donamigos1]

Thanks Eric. It's the drug conviction in Thailand that is the problem. If the military were not running things I understand immigration in phuket would be able to make arrangements since I have a daughter there. I took care of the charge 2010. No warrants, it just shows that I was charged with 2 grams of pot. The immediate appeal may work. You have 48 hours to contact either the minister of interior or immigration once you've been refused entry. Anyone suggest a good lawyer?

[Benmart]

I hope you have developed some "Self Discipline" since you had a problem with it before. Good luck !!

I take care of myself and leave the "self discipline" issue to the person it concerns.

I don't know the OP, nor the details of his situation. I wish him well, and will leave it at that.

[chingching]

You do not need to be in Thailand, to secure u.s.a. citizenship for yr daughter. It would be easier if u were here, but you can do it by email.

[donamigos1]

10-4.

[donamigos1]

No, just answered an old warrant. Cleared it and the world is mine except for Thailand where my heart is. Thanks

[arthurwait]

You say you were never married are you now the legal father of your daughter ?

[donamigos1]

I just received a how to post. Could you please repost it.

[donamigos1]

Yes I am the legal father, on birth certificate and all.

[donamigos1]

Thanyaburi. Thanks for the info.

[nzexpat]

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Yes I am the legal father, on birth certificate and all.

Being "on the birth" certificate does not in Thailand make you the legal father.

Which court granted you parental rights in relation to the child?

[ubonjoe]

You do not need to be in Thailand, to secure u.s.a. citizenship for yr daughter. It would be easier if u were here, but you can do it by email.

How?

Info from embassy website: http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/service/birth-of-a-u.s.-citizen-in-thailand.html

[donamigos1]

I have to file at the US embassy with daughter and wife present. I'll have to be creative.

[harrry]

No, just answered an old warrant. Cleared it and the world is mine except for Thailand where my heart is. Thanks

If you had a conviction in the US Thailand can bar you.