Johnny S Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Did my 90 day report yesterday and wife an I got a shock (a good one) when we entered to see 2 Young falangguys with a "Volunteer"-sign on the shirt assisting people at the counter that had any Q. Furtermore seemed like the thai Imm.-staff had been changed with 4-5 people. We were serviced by a very polite nice Young guy with glasses - never seen him before. Very effective so we were in and out in 5 min. We had a big smile on our face when we left ... Apologize if this has been reported before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Probably the first thing someone is going to ask here is about work permits. Believe a few years ago they had one or two foreign assistants also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryLH Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 "Probably the first thing someone is going to ask here is about work permits." Well, now that you've brought it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 "Probably the first thing someone is going to ask here is about work permits." Well, now that you've brought it up... Well, now that you seem interested, I am sure many TVF members having to use the busy Chiang Mai office, will be relieved at any improvements made to make their visit quick and more efficient. One would think that they do indeed have WPs, but the mere fact that they have, presumably English speakers, is a definite asset. Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Ithas never been that hard to figure out what is going on there just seperate the clueless folks from the ones who know what they are doing and it flows like silk. Really never had a problem at Chiang Mai but never had a problem asking questions either and always had my paper work in order. The dress code never paid that much attention to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Ithas never been that hard to figure out what is going on there just seperate the clueless folks from the ones who know what they are doing and it flows like silk. Really never had a problem at Chiang Mai but never had a problem asking questions either and always had my paper work in order. The dress code never paid that much attention to it. aaah yes the famed dress code which some punters on here are more obsessed than the people working there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 "Probably the first thing someone is going to ask here is about work permits." Well, now that you've brought it up... Well, now that you seem interested, I am sure many TVF members having to use the busy Chiang Mai office, will be relieved at any improvements made to make their visit quick and more efficient. One would think that they do indeed have WPs, but the mere fact that they have, presumably English speakers, is a definite asset. Good idea. Glad to hear this exists although I have never seen them. It seems so rushed there that asking a question is out of the question and when I do I get a big smile and the person says "next" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackanapes Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 this is something new I wonder if the 2 farangs had work permits . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 this is something new I wonder if the 2 farangs had work permits . Tywais Posted Today, 09:53 Probably the first thing someone is going to ask here is about work permits. Believe a few years ago they had one or two foreign assistants also. Congrats jackanapes a bit late, but better late than never, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardflory Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 this is something new I wonder if the 2 farangs had work permits . A WORK PERMIT is NOT needed if you do volunteer work for a GOVERNMENT AGENCY, Your GOVERNMENT ID Card is your """work permit'''' --- along with the RESTRICTIONS the agency places on the volunteer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 this is something new I wonder if the 2 farangs had work permits . A WORK PERMIT is NOT needed if you do volunteer work for a GOVERNMENT AGENCY, Your GOVERNMENT ID Card is your """work permit'''' --- along with the RESTRICTIONS the agency places on the volunteer. Many people volunteer at a government school, they still require a work permit. The law states that only people who are exempt by royal decree don't need a work permit. I do not know of any royal decree exempting volunteer for government agencies for the requirement to have a WP. Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 back in the day, during day... G.O. ENG Teachers,volunteers do not require a work permit...... the part about the govt ID...not even close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 this is something new I wonder if the 2 farangs had work permits . A WORK PERMIT is NOT needed if you do volunteer work for a GOVERNMENT AGENCY, Your GOVERNMENT ID Card is your """work permit'''' --- along with the RESTRICTIONS the agency places on the volunteer. Many people volunteer at a government school, they still require a work permit. The law states that only people who are exempt by royal decree don't need a work permit. I do not know of any royal decree exempting volunteer for government agencies for the requirement to have a WP. Do you? British Council staff didn't need WPs until last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 The British Council is not a Thai government agency, which is here the issue. I don't know for sure their status, but they might be exempt the same as a diplomat is as they are some kind of British government agency. A very few categories such as diplomats are specifically named in the law as being exempt from work permit rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 however, the key is they are helping out .... and that accounts for praise.. so let it be and be done with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 These are the exemptions for work permit. Wonder if this is still current? The Alien Occupation Law, adopted in 1973, requires all aliens working in Thailand to obtain a Work Permit prior to starting work in the Kingdom. An updated version of the Act, adopted in 1978, describes the procedures for issuance and maintenance of Work Permits and lists certain occupations from which aliens may be excluded. Work Permit Exemptions The Act grants exemptions from the Work Permit requirement to the following professionals: * Members of the diplomatic corps* Members of consular missions* Representatives of member countries and officials of the United Nations and its specialised agencies* Personal servants coming from abroad to work exclusively for persons listed under the above items* Persons who perform duties on missions in the Kingdom under an agreement between the government of Thailand and a foreign government or international organization.* Persons who enter the Kingdom for the performance of any duty or mission for the benefit of education, culture, arts, or sports* Persons who are specially permitted by the government of Thailand to enter and perform any duty or mission in the Kingdom. Special Cases While most aliens must apply for a Work Permit, and may not begin work until the permit is issued, the Alien Employment Act does provide special treatment in the following circumstances: Urgent and Essential Work. Exemption from Work Permit requirements is granted to aliens who enter the Kingdom temporarily, but in accordance with the immigration law, to perform any work of any “urgent and essential nature” for a period not exceeding 15 days. However, such aliens may engage in work only after a written notification on a prescribed form, signed by the alien and endorsed by his employer, has been submitted to and accepted by the Director-General or his designee. Aliens entitled to this treatment may enter Thailand with any kind of visa, including a transit visa. The term “urgent and essential work” is not explicitly defined and consequently, the issuance of this sort of exemption is a matter of administrative discretion. Source And Siam Legal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadan Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Please people, don't hijack the real purpose of this thread. This is a chance to appreciate a good positive development in an area where countless of you have been critical for so long. We should be happy and willing to embrace change particularly when it is in a positive direction. It is fine to point out mistakes and shortcomings but when something positive is introduced, then it is only fair to applaud the development. Off course there is a long way to go with this whole visa issue and hopefully with time, the authorities will recognize that and make more improvements. but at this time, this is a step in the right direction and we need to be appreciative and say thank you , keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 The OP is a little vague in stating exactly what these fine young, well-dressed, volunteers-without-needing-work-permits (possibly) actually do. Do they prostheletise, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altalake Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 In Phuket Town Immigration they have had Farang volunteers assisting for ages, and they are a great help to many. Mind you, we have never had anything but help and courtesy from the Thai Immigration staff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 why is hard for some to accept there are a few people out there... who make a difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackattack Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 One maybe spell falang correctly,its farang (foreigner) Sorry Big kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 re A WORK PERMIT is NOT needed if you do volunteer work for a GOVERNMENT AGENCY, Your GOVERNMENT ID Card is your """work permit'''' is that right ? so whats one of these government id cards look like then ? dave2 ps ... a tip .... if you know nothing its better not to post rubbish in here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackattack Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Yes you do need a work permit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 The discussion of immigration and police volunteers needing a work permit has been discussed many times before. Topic is not about this. Please no further discussion of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Would it not make more sense to put this in the Chiangmai Forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Would it not make more sense to put this in the Chiangmai Forum? Moved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seligne2 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 this is something new I wonder if the 2 farangs had work permits . A WORK PERMIT is NOT needed if you do volunteer work for a GOVERNMENT AGENCY, Your GOVERNMENT ID Card is your """work permit'''' --- along with the RESTRICTIONS the agency places on the volunteer. Many people volunteer at a government school, they still require a work permit. The law states that only people who are exempt by royal decree don't need a work permit. I do not know of any royal decree exempting volunteer for government agencies for the requirement to have a WP. Do you? I worked at the government high school in Samoeng as a volunteer. The school insisted I did not need a work permit. I guess I had royal dispensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhod Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 The OP is a little vague in stating exactly what these fine young, well-dressed, volunteers-without-needing-work-permits (possibly) actually do. Do they prostheletise, for example? Can you explain what you mean please... Full Definition of PROSELYTIZEintransitive verb 1 : to induce someone to convert to one's faith 2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause transitive verb : to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause — pros·e·ly·ti·za·tion \ˌprä-s(ə-)lə-tə-ˈzā-shən, ˌprä-sə-ˌlī-tə-\noun — pros·e·ly·tiz·er \ˈprä-s(ə-)lə-ˌtī-zər\ noun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 "* Personal servants coming from abroad to work exclusively for persons listed under the above items" There you go, just tell plod you're the ambassador's butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Probably the first thing someone is going to ask here is about work permits. I see you didn't get disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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