Ministry Of Foreign Affairs For Legalization Of Translation

[BeefSlapper]

Hi, I am going to get birth cert. stamped

Found some nice guide http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/571103-trip-to-thai-ministry-of-foreign-affairs-for-legalization-of-translation/

my quesions are:

Can I do this not being married?

Are thais allowed to hold double (2 passports) citizenship?.

I got already english translation, what else should I know?

Thank you in advance

B.

[7by7]

1) Whose birth certificate?

2) Yes, Thais can have more than one (Thai) nationality and hold passports for each of their other nationalities as well as a Thai one; provided the nationality laws of the other country(ies) allow it, which most do.

3) Know about what?

[BeefSlapper]

1) Whose birth certificate?

2) Yes, Thais can have more than one (Thai) nationality and hold passports for each of their other nationalities as well as a Thai one; provided the nationality laws of the other country(ies) allow it, which most do.

3) Know about what?

Its for my 2 months old baby, I am going to sort out her EU passport

I am not married, want know that be orite.

Im on her birth cert.

thx for help

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I thought I read here recently in the attorney's forum.... advice that men who are unmarried and have children with a Thai woman, even if they are listed on the birth certificate as the father, have no legal parent rights here under Thai law.

So I'm wondering, how the MFA would respond to a request on behalf of a Thai child from someone who's not their legal parent???

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/816418-legalities-of-having-children-in-thailand/#entry9292873

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/784818-custody-of-thai-children/#entry8818286

Edited May 31, 2015 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[BeefSlapper]

I thought I read here recently in the attorney's forum.... advice that men who are unmarried and have children with a Thai woman, even if they are listed on the birth certificate as the father, have no legal parent rights here under Thai law.

So I'm wondering, how the MFA would respond to a request on behalf of a Thai child from someone who's not their legal parent???

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/816418-legalities-of-having-children-in-thailand/#entry9292873

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/784818-custody-of-thai-children/#entry8818286

i know about parental rights

well I will let you know

my embassy got no problem with us being not married, its only takes longer 6 months, they sending files to my home country. but can be done

[EyesWideOpen]

Not sure what country you are from . I was not married when we had our daughter.

It was a piece of cake to get her a US passport. However they did require a DNA

test. Not sure if European countries do the same. By American law, any child

of mine is entitled to a US passport. Your relation to the mother is not a factor

in the granting of a passport.....

[7by7]

Indeed, the nationality of the OP would help as different countries have different nationality laws.

However, I see no reason why the MFA would not legalise a translation of his daughter's birth certificate as I understand that doing so merely confirms it is a correct translation and does not confer any parental rights.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

People here are answering a question that the OP didn't ask. People are talking whether one's home country will accept this or that.

His question in fact was: will he be able to take a 2-month old child to the Thai MFA and have MFA stamp a translation of the child's birth certificate.

7by7 referred to the girl as his daughter, which in the real world she is. But from a Thai government and legal point of view, he's not a legal parent of the girl, because he's not married to the girl's mother.

So, it seems to me at least a reasonable question of whether the Thai MFA is going to conduct any official business on behalf of an adult who they don't recognize as the legal parent of a two-month-old.

[7by7]

Indeed, but as I said "I see no reason why the MFA would not legalise a translation of his daughter's birth certificate as I understand that doing so merely confirms it is a correct translation and does not confer any parental rights."

If that is incorrect, please say so.

Presumably, if the mother takes the translation to the MFA then there will be no difficulty.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

You're missing the point again. You may consider the girl as his daughter. But the MFA doesn't, because he's not married to the mother.

There's nothing about legalizing a translation that confers parental rights. It's simply a question of whether the MFA will conduct business on behalf of a two month old child when brought by someone who isn't their legal parent (as far as MFA is concerned).

Clearly, the Thai mother bringing the child would have no problem whatsoever.

[BeefSlapper]

Indeed, the nationality of the OP would help as different countries have different nationality laws.

However, I see no reason why the MFA would not legalise a translation of his daughter's birth certificate as I understand that doing so merely confirms it is a correct translation and does not confer any parental rights.

Poland.

Nationality goes automatically from parent to child.

My country no prob.

I wonder about getting birth cert stamped in ministry here.

[BeefSlapper]

You're missing the point again. You may consider the girl as his daughter. But the MFA doesn't, because he's not married to the mother.

There's nothing about legalizing a translation that confers parental rights. It's simply a question of whether the MFA will conduct business on behalf of a two month old child when brought by someone who isn't their legal parent (as far as MFA is concerned).

Clearly, the Thai mother bringing the child would have no problem whatsoever.

I let my gf deal with it then.

One more thing.

Is it baby needs to be present there or not?

Thx for all help

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

That's a good question... Certainly couldn't hurt, though I'm not sure why MFA would require that. It's not like they're going to ask her (the infant) to sign something....

I suspect most of us here don't have a lot of experience with trying to conduct MFA business on behalf of two-month-olds...so we're kind of flying blind on your topic.

I can add two things:

1. When my wife and I went to MFA a few months back to get a document certified by them, it was a same day deal that took a couple hours from start to finish, provided you get there in the morning time to start the process.

2. Without knowing your logistics, it's also possible to have MFA document certifications done via agents, typically the translation offices, that handle the whole thing for a fee (their fee plus the MFA processing fee). You wouldn't have to go down to CW at all, and they'd just return the certified document back to you. They do that for adults all the time, though again, not sure if things would work any different when an infant's document is the one being presented. But you could certainly check that if convenience trumps cost.

[BeefSlapper]

Hi heres update.

Still at MFA

Done it without any problems.

Came in at 10am, it only took 30min and im done.

I did it all my gf was next to me.

No one ever asked we are married or not.

Now they post it back to your house.

Paid around 400thb.

Smooth process and easy.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Glad to hear everything went smoothly....

Just wonder what would have happened, if you went alone by yourself as a farang.

[BeefSlapper]

Glad to hear everything went smoothly....

Just wonder what would have happened, if you went alone by yourself as a farang.

Pretty much nothing. Would be the same.

My gf was not involved at all there was no need.