Halion Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 About time, I did think it was impossible to have 1000s of Refugee spread an area Controlled by the Military, without them knowing If a Maj -Gen as involved I doubt he hasn't got a few dozen underlings "Following Orders" It will be interesting to see where this goes in various directions starting with did the BIB clear this with anyone or just decide to get on with it ? I hope they just announced it , I reckon they would be pretty peeved actually. They have taken all the blame so far in area they did not control. Whats the betting they try and spin the Army bloke as pro Thaksin. Could be Big blow to certain peoples integrity and question the competence of his old bosses ect Integrity ? Thailand ? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 But But didn't the army, the very top of the army assure that no military officers were involved. However this seems to be a police generated investigation which might explain a lot. Seems the children will never be likely to play nicely. so you would rather they just cover it up then you wouldn't be posting this garbage I personally would prefer they arrest this person and charge him and that you remain silent as you really have never had anything constructive to say on here, my evidence is the above post and by the way - children were playing nicely and happy at a local market in Trat until red terrorist low life thugs decided to present them with a grenade and murder them - can you honestly live with that I think you missed the point. The police have been saying for along time that the military control the area and they are therefore in difficulty bringing investigations to conclusion. The navy and the military have been pleading innocence. I have no doubt there are police involved in this too. However the reference to children playing nicely was a cute way of saying the police and army hate each other and protect each ther. The police are the children right now and are not submitting to any military cover up. I guess mow the international stage has shone the spotlight the policeman figures better to try to keep the spotlight off himself by taking the risk of doing something so at least he can say he didn't do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boon Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I think it would be fair to say, that like the mafia in America, certain generals would not stoop so low ...yet still maintain a live and let live with other less humane generals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Arrest warrant does not mean he will be charged and if he is will he ever go to jail, I mean what are the chances here? Expect years on appeal then a suspended sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelnigel Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 "The junta launched a crackdown on human trafficking syndicates after the country was relegated by the United States to Tier 3, the lowest level, in its Trafficking in Persons report last year." All the military/government knew exactly what was going on and it wasn't until USA pushed them down to the lowest level that something actually happened. There always has to be the fall guy/s while the other higher ups walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 About time, I did think it was impossible to have 1000s of Refugee spread an area Controlled by the Military, without them knowing If a Maj -Gen as involved I doubt he hasn't got a few dozen underlings "Following Orders" And a few dozen colleagues of equal and higher rank joining in. Will they find him? Will they try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidee Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 how hard would it be, to start an anti corruption cell and check assets of all military personel and see if it reflects their real income Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Arrest warrant,issued,thats like giving the wrongdoers a heads up to do a runner,bet they have not frozen his assets either.or are they expecting him to turn himself in, regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linzz Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 But But didn't the army, the very top of the army assure that no military officers were involved. However this seems to be a police generated investigation which might explain a lot. Seems the children will never be likely to play nicely. so you would rather they just cover it up then you wouldn't be posting this garbage I personally would prefer they arrest this person and charge him and that you remain silent as you really have never had anything constructive to say on here, my evidence is the above post and by the way - children were playing nicely and happy at a local market in Trat until red terrorist low life thugs decided to present them with a grenade and murder them - can you honestly live with that I think NongKhaiKid was being facetious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Lets see an Interpol arrest warrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linzz Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) Lt. Gen. Manas Kongpan was identified by the Pattani Provincial Court for the Kru Se Mosque killings in November 2006. Not only was he never arrested, fired or tried, he was promoted to Head of the ISOC in Ranong. The ISOC was previously the CSOC (Communist Security Operation Command) that is famous for burning countless communist suspects in Red Oil Drums with petrol in the '70s. In 2007 he ordered Rohingya boats to be pushed back out to sea which received worldwide TV coverage. Yet it seems that now he is suspected of being behind the people trafficking since that time. Based on past history, he is more likely to end up with another promotion than any conviction for the current atrocities that have occurred under his watch. Unless he has to finally be made an example of since the downgrading of the nation and the international community are watching. Then he becomes an anti Muslim martyr, hero and eventually Prime Minister for keeping Thailand safe Edited June 2, 2015 by Linzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigPig Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 how hard would it be, to start an anti corruption cell and check assets of all military personel and see if it reflects their real income Might find out too much, the idea isn´t to bust everyone who is guilty, just those that aren´t in the right ¨club¨ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Lets see an Interpol arrest warrant. Why. He was on active duty. Surely the army command knows where its senior officers can be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry001 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Must be a false report. No one in the army is corrupt or deviant. Just ask the PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckape Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 But But didn't the army, the very top of the army assure that no military officers were involved. However this seems to be a police generated investigation which might explain a lot. Seems the children will never be likely to play nicely. so you would rather they just cover it up then you wouldn't be posting this garbage I personally would prefer they arrest this person and charge him and that you remain silent as you really have never had anything constructive to say on here, my evidence is the above post and by the way - children were playing nicely and happy at a local market in Trat until red terrorist low life thugs decided to present them with a grenade and murder them - can you honestly live with that I think NongKhaiKid was being facetious I thought it was a nice example of sarcasm myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrylSky Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Book him Danno! People like this makes me sick - making Johnny Walker and pussy money off of the very sad plight of these refugees who are desperate and fleeing for their lives. This world is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Given the huge money involved, follow the paper and ATM trails, check the bank accounts, check for evidence of unusual wealth and connections with superiors and subordinates, etc. etc. Hardly rocket science, is it? Oh, wait... Absolutely wait. Where are the rockets in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny S Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 How hard is it to check these S-bags economy, bankaccounts etc. .... ? Has the Tax-department been transferred to inactive posts maybe ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Flashback to 2015-01-30 "More than a dozen Thai government officials -- including senior policemen and a navy officer -- are being prosecuted for human trafficking, junta officials said Friday, as they vowed "zero tolerance" of the trade." News article Thai officials prosecuted for human trafficking To date there has been no further information regarding the navy officer. Of course a conviction might damage the navy's defamation case against two Thai Reuter reports who reported on possible naval involvement in human trafficking. It would seem that zero tolerance may refer more to zero military convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I think the investigation will come to nought...just like Payuth family's wealth and the parliament speaker system..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 But But didn't the army, the very top of the army assure that no military officers were involved. However this seems to be a police generated investigation which might explain a lot. Seems the children will never be likely to play nicely. so you would rather they just cover it up then you wouldn't be posting this garbage I personally would prefer they arrest this person and charge him and that you remain silent as you really have never had anything constructive to say on here, my evidence is the above post and by the way - children were playing nicely and happy at a local market in Trat until red terrorist low life thugs decided to present them with a grenade and murder them - can you honestly live with that But he's been bubbled by the Police hasn't he ,I wonder if that was Oked by the top brass. He may have been so blatant that they had no choice , They did announce there was no Army involved. Which really was a shoot yourself in the foot statement. Because no ones involved until they get caught unless of course it tuns out to be a "Misunderstanding" That will teach him to leave his fingerprints on the Thai Beer Can he dropped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 But, but, but.............Mr Prayut Chan-o-cha, you assured the Thai nation that no Military personnel were involved in the human trafficking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBitterPhuket Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Finally! This is so important. No group should be seen to be above the law. It definately has a positive psychological and moral effect. AND if guilty, this man deserves a harsh penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 they tried to protect him, tried to cover it up, but when they couldn't they threw him under the bus (where he should be I grant you) Really? You have absolute 100% proof of your statement and can back it up? What I think you have is speculation and wishful thoughts on your part. I do agree that if it can be proved then yes he must go to jail, but like a lot of people I would like to see proof and evidence first, unlike you and many others like you seem to want a kangaroo court on TVF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Keep digging... for every body buried in the mangrove forests and hills, there are probably a hundred culprits involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I wonder what the deputy PM's next anouncement will be. Only 2 days ago it still was this. Army link with trafficking not found yet: Thai deputy PM "We agree that high ranking officials were involved in trafficking of people. There are police among them. But so far, we haven’t found any army officials to be involved in this," General Tanasak Patimapragorn, who is also the foreign minister of the country, said at press conference during a Special Meeting on Irregular Migration in the Indian Ocean in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 But But didn't the army, the very top of the army assure that no military officers were involved. However this seems to be a police generated investigation which might explain a lot. Seems the children will never be likely to play nicely. so you would rather they just cover it up then you wouldn't be posting this garbage I personally would prefer they arrest this person and charge him and that you remain silent as you really have never had anything constructive to say on here, my evidence is the above post and by the way - children were playing nicely and happy at a local market in Trat until red terrorist low life thugs decided to present them with a grenade and murder them - can you honestly live with that What are you talking about? The nation was assured there were no army people involved in trafficking.This seemed incredible given the heavy army presence and influence in the affected areas. The only two possible explanations for the top brass definitive statement were dishonesty or incompetence.I had earlier assumed the former ( given their track record of lying) but giving these idiots the benefit of the doubt perhaps it is the latter.It seems completely incredible however there were no other senior officers involved.We shall see. Your reaction to a perfectly fair observation was an irrelevant rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 So now we know why after so many years the southern insurgency problems are never solved because high ranking army personnel is very busy making money over human trafficking. However, lets see if this guy will be transferred to "inactive post" again and the taxpayers' are continuing to feed him until he dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 they tried to protect him, tried to cover it up, but when they couldn't they threw him under the bus (where he should be I grant you) Really? You have absolute 100% proof of your statement and can back it up? What I think you have is speculation and wishful thoughts on your part. I do agree that if it can be proved then yes he must go to jail, but like a lot of people I would like to see proof and evidence first, unlike you and many others like you seem to want a kangaroo court on TVF. He's still low hanging fruit if you know what I mean. He looks like a big fish in the media at the present, but he's just another fish in the pond regarding trafficking. He certainly can't be the head of it all. There are three ranks above him and then there are the police who are under the rule of politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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