webfact Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 THAI Maintains Highest Safety StandardsBANGKOK: -- After a lot of talk Thai flag carriers losing permission to fly to Europe and North America due to safety issues, Thai Airways International Public Company Limited (THAI) today announces that it operates with the highest safety standards in all operational areas.Mr. Charamporn Jotikasthira, THAI President, said that in light of the International Civil Aviation Organization’s (ICAO) public posting a red flag today on Thailand’s Department of Civil Aviation (Thai DCA), as a result of the findings during the ICAO Universal Safety Oversight Audit Program (USOAP) and the issuance of a Significant Safety Concern (SSC), Thai Airways International wants to reassure the travelling public that THAI operates with the highest safety standards in all operational areas.“A significant safety concern (SSC) does not necessarily indicate a particular safety deficiency in the air navigation service providers, airlines (air operators), aircraft or aerodrome; but, rather, indicates that the State is not providing sufficient safety oversight to ensure the effective implementation of applicable ICAO Standards,” ICAO.Despite the ICAO having “identified that Thailand has a significant safety concern with respect to the ability of the Thai DCA to properly oversee airlines under its jurisdiction,” Thai Airways International assures all parties that THAI strictly practices the safety standards of these international agencies.Full story: http://www.eturbonews.com/60374/thai-maintains-highest-safety-standards -- eTN 2015-06-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonsai Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 THAI, Thai, Thailand, Thainess = ALL about ONLY appearances. Safety does not exist in Thai vocabulary. Just a screen of smoke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Do these CEO's actually take on board what these Agencies, such as the ICAO have said were lacking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 after reading the head line i knew something must be wrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritzzz25 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) THAI has recently hired an orthopedic shoulder surgeon who is doing weekly surgeries for all the board members who seem to dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back. They are bringing in a neurosurgeon to deal with a few of them that have broken their own necks by kissing their own Rses. Edited June 18, 2015 by fritzzz25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutojames88 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 The xenophobic statements begin.....denial of world and standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I think the problem lies with the DCA not with Thai international , what the man had to say is correct, Thai follows and is a member of the same airworthiness audits as Qantas , all in sundry may laugh at that but that is correct and to all the voices of doom, just Google and check for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Does anyone really believe this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Do these CEO's actually take on board what these Agencies, such as the ICAO have said were lacking? No. They all come out of the same school as TAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Do these CEO's actually take on board what these Agencies, such as the ICAO have said were lacking? No. They all come out of the same school as TAT. Next thing they will be announcing is that they are cheaper than most airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 This is not news but very much a press release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 ICAO red-flags Thailand's aviation safety standard /Bangkok Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffyfromflint Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Safety, what safety? being a safety auditor my understanding was the deficiencies were in the paperwork (LOL). God help us if someone ticks the wrong box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 “A significant safety concern (SSC) does not necessarily indicate a particular safety deficiency in the air navigation service providers, airlines (air operators), aircraft or aerodrome; but, rather, indicates that the State is not providing sufficient safety oversight to ensure the effective implementation of applicable ICAO Standards,” ICAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I was flying Dubai to Bangkok and two passengers began to fight over one kicking the seat back of the other. Instead of intervening and preventing a potentially serious situation all the crew went and hid at the back of the plane. It didn't bode well for if there was a real emergency. Safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokfrog Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 It doesn't matter how good one airline's planes and pilots are. If the safety standards for other airlines in the sky are not up to scratch or the airspace is not managed properly, nobody is safe... unless off course they are wearing the right kind of invincibility amulet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Interesting to see a thread of the OP's title when other news sources on the same day are saying the ICAO red-flagged Thailand for not making progress fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roota Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I think the problem lies with the DCA not with Thai international , what the man had to say is correct, I doubt if you'll be heard over the noise here. Airline Ratings, a pretty definitive source, rates THAI as 6/7 for safety, which is fairly good. Jacdec, which does a more detailed ranking, puts it in the company of Japan Airlines and SAS, not too shabby either. Yes, the DCA is fairly hopeless. That doesn't mean all the airlines under its authority are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 But does the ICAO agree with Thailands opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) I think the problem lies with the DCA not with Thai international , what the man had to say is correct, I doubt if you'll be heard over the noise here. Airline Ratings, a pretty definitive source, rates THAI as 6/7 for safety, which is fairly good. Jacdec, which does a more detailed ranking, puts it in the company of Japan Airlines and SAS, not too shabby either. Yes, the DCA is fairly hopeless. That doesn't mean all the airlines under its authority are. You may be right, but this red flag does not instill a lot of confidence with anything with a Thai flag on it, does it? Edited June 18, 2015 by dcutman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Announce what ever you like however history depicts that little will have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangebrew Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Yes thai airlines have the fastest logo covering in Asia, and the blame pointers are second to non. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 What is it April 1st? Someone is being really funny here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I think the problem lies with the DCA not with Thai international , what the man had to say is correct, Thai follows and is a member of the same airworthiness audits as Qantas , all in sundry may laugh at that but that is correct and to all the voices of doom, just Google and check for yourself. I am with you. If TG are permitted to fly into the US and EU, that is good enough for me. I would quite happily fly them if their fares weren't preposterously expensive every time I check... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceN Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 It's reassuring to know that THAI's PR department maintains such high standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Anybody interested Google Geoffrey Thomas The West airline Guru , you might even find that your carrier of choice isn't all that cracked up as it should be, Thai Int passes all tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think the problem lies with the DCA not with Thai international , what the man had to say is correct, Thai follows and is a member of the same airworthiness audits as Qantas , all in sundry may laugh at that but that is correct and to all the voices of doom, just Google and check for yourself. Yu'p your quite correct, Now that being said Qantas is ranked seventh and out of the top ten listed and have been operating the longest, And NEVER CRASHED, they are ranked seventh due to some incidents as opposed to any fatal crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think the problem lies with the DCA not with Thai international , what the man had to say is correct, Thai follows and is a member of the same airworthiness audits as Qantas , all in sundry may laugh at that but that is correct and to all the voices of doom, just Google and check for yourself. Well Yes and No. While I somtimes wonder if the Austrailian CASA is more incompantant than the Thais with some of their garbage the auditing from CASA would unqeuestionable be at a much higher level than of the troubled Thai DCA. But YES you are correct in that THAI (and not saying others) are regualerly indipenatly audited by real industry expert companies and I hear they do fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praematura Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 THAI, Thai, Thailand, Thainess = ALL about ONLY appearances. Safety does not exist in Thai vocabulary. Just a screen of smoke... Nicely put! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yu'p your quite correct, Now that being said Qantas is ranked seventh and out of the top ten listed and have been operating the longest, And NEVER CRASHED, they are ranked seventh due to some incidents as opposed to any fatal crashes. Seems you are accepting the QANTAS PR team's definition of a crash. The $50 million incident at BKK, admittedly caused by cost cutting instructions not to use reverse thrust, is close enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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