Israel, Hamas in unspoken alliance against Gaza extremists

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Israel, Hamas in unspoken alliance against Gaza extremists
By FARES AKRAM

KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — Nearly a year after a devastating war, Israel and Gaza's Hamas rulers appear to have formed an unspoken alliance in a common battle against the shared threat of jihadis aligned with the Islamic State group.

While Israel and Hamas remain arch-enemies, both have an interest in preserving an uneasy calm that has prevailed since the fighting ended in a cease-fire last August -- a stalemate that is largely the result of a lack of options on either side.

More than 2,200 Palestinians were killed in last year's fighting, according to Palestinian officials, and Hamas suffered heavy losses. It is isolated internationally, Gaza's economy is in tatters and reconstruction efforts have moved slowly. A renewal of hostilities would be devastating for Gaza's 1.8 million people.

On the Israeli side, 73 people, including 67 soldiers, were killed in last year's fighting, and the summer-long war disrupted the lives of millions of people as they coped with repeated rocket attacks and air-raid sirens. But Hamas, which seized power in Gaza eight years ago, has survived three wars, and the cost of toppling the group would be extremely high, so Israel appears content to contain Hamas and keep things quiet.

Hamas officials say that efforts are underway, through Qatari mediators, to work out a long-term cease-fire. The deal would call for Israel to ease a stifling blockade on Gaza in exchange for Hamas pledges to disarm, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were discussing sensitive negotiations. It is unclear whether any progress has been made in the cease-fire efforts, which include Hamas demands to reopen sea and airports in Gaza. Israeli officials declined comment.

In the short run, the biggest threat to the quiet is a small but growing number of extremists in Gaza inspired by the Islamic State group, who have fired rockets across the heavily guarded frontier in order to undermine Hamas. The militants believe Hamas is soft on Israel and has failed to establish an Islamic state.

That has transformed Israel and Hamas -- bitter enemies for nearly three decades -- into unspoken allies against a shared threat.

Nowhere is this more evident than in the southern town of Khan Younis, where Hamas militants have been supervising work crews that are opening a road along Gaza's eastern fence with Israel. The patrols have helped preserve quiet in a volatile area used in the past by rocket-launching squads.

Hamas officials say that maintaining the cease-fire is a national interest. "A young element breaking that understanding is our responsibility and the responsibility of all of us and all the factions to stop him," said Hamas official Salah Bardawil. "Nobody should break the national understanding in a meaningless way."

The road work has been taking place as close as 150 meters (175 yards) from the border, an area that Israel in the past has made off-limits. In an unusual scene earlier this month, four Israeli military bulldozers entered a buffer zone to remove brush along the fence. Camouflaged Hamas militants approached the area but did not confront them.

"For sure, there are implicit, indirect understandings by both sides not to attack each other," said Ibrahim al-Madhoun, a Gaza analyst who is close to Hamas. "The road is a message that there is a flexible political mind in Gaza (Hamas) that can take reasonable steps in the light of any regional or international changes."

Such a scene would have been unthinkable a year ago, when Israel and Hamas battled for 50 days in their third war since the Islamic militant group -- which is sworn to Israel's destruction -- seized power in Gaza in 2007.

Hamas has honored the cease-fire that ended the war. But a number of small jihadi groups have grown increasingly active in Gaza and appear set on disrupting the calm. They dream of joining Gaza to the IS group's self-styled caliphate in Syria and Iraq, but because they are too weak to challenge Hamas directly, they have instead sought to undermine it by firing rockets at Israel.

Mkhaimar Abusada, a political science professor at Gaza's Al-Azhar University, said the rocket fire is aimed at embarrassing Hamas and provoking Israeli military action against the ruling militant group. "Any confrontation will ease the security pressure Hamas put on the Salafists," he said, referring to ultraconservative Islamic groups.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he holds Hamas responsible for all attacks coming out of Gaza and threatened to use Israel's "full strength" to respond. But so far, Israeli reprisals against the recent rocket fire have been limited to empty training sites, and there have been no casualties on either side.

The Israeli military declined to comment on the matter. But defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media, said they are aware of Hamas' efforts to preserve the calm.

In addition to the border patrols, Hamas has arrested dozens of Salafi activists in recent months and set up checkpoints in sensitive areas to look for suspects.

Hamas officials say little about the road patrols. Mahmoud Zahar, a Hamas leader, said the action has helped improve security by preventing Palestinians from infiltrating into Israel and is helping "protect the properties" of people from Israel. He also said the road would help local farmers gain access to lands that could not easily be reached following the war.

Alon Ben-David, the senior military correspondent for Israel's Channel 10 TV, said Hamas was sending a conciliatory message to Israel.

"What they are broadcasting with those patrols is: 'We are preventing friction with you (Israel),'" he said. "We are here to prevent fire on Israel."

But he said the Hamas patrols are also collecting intelligence on Israeli military positions and soldiers. "So this could all in a second turn upside down and become a military offensive maneuver. But now their objective is the opposite," he said.


-- (c) Associated Press 2015-06-22

[ezzra]

Maybe, just maybe, someone, high enough in the Hamas woke up one morning saying

to himself, ok, we have tried and tried and tried, we have lost thousands or people, our

city lies in ruins, half of the population are unemployed, and for many years we live like

dogs where we could have moved forward and live the life we deserve,

"if you can't beat them, join them " so, let see what new thinking will bring us,

Good move Hamas, you and your people will only benefit out of it, and soon....

[FangFerang]

Israel 2200, Hamas 76 -- if it was basketball, Israel wins...

Unfortunately it is human lives.

[Jingthing]

Israel 2200, Hamas 76 -- if it was basketball, Israel wins...

Unfortunately it is human lives.

In military conflicts/wars, it is typical for the losing side to suffer more casualties than the winning side.

In the most recent war there, Israel obviously dominated the military aspect of the conflict but it can be argued that the Gaza side dominated the international political propaganda aspect of it.

Edited June 22, 2015 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Maybe, just maybe, someone, high enough in the Hamas woke up one morning saying

to himself, ok, we have tried and tried and tried, we have lost thousands or people, our

city lies in ruins, half of the population are unemployed, and for many years we live like

dogs where we could have moved forward and live the life we deserve,

"if you can't beat them, join them " so, let see what new thinking will bring us,

Good move Hamas, you and your people will only benefit out of it, and soon....

Keep in mind this has nothing to do with Hamas becoming pacifists. They are preparing for the next military conflict with Israel right now but they are not nearly READY for that.

[ABCer]

Maybe, just maybe, someone, high enough in the Hamas woke up one morning saying

to himself, ok, we have tried and tried and tried, we have lost thousands or people, our

city lies in ruins, half of the population are unemployed, and for many years we live like

dogs where we could have moved forward and live the life we deserve,

"if you can't beat them, join them " so, let see what new thinking will bring us,

Good move Hamas, you and your people will only benefit out of it, and soon....

But not Israel!

The one thing right about such an alliance would be - "unspoken".

If Israelis hope to secure their back to fight IS in the N. East - they are miscalculating.

Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact comes to mind.

One cannot make treaties, alliances or agreements with Islam.

[Seastallion]

I wonder if the Hasbara trolls around the world have stumbled upon TV and read esteemed member Dexterm's posts. He advised that this should happen weeks ago when it first emerged that Salafists are causing mishchief.

[Ulysses G.]

Israel 2200, Hamas 76 -- if it was basketball, Israel wins...

No matter what it is, Israel wins and they stopped most of the rockets.

[Seastallion]

Speak of the devil!!

It's interesting the OP mentions that Israeli officials recognise Hamas's efforts "...The Israeli military declined to comment on the matter. But defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media, said they are aware of Hamas' efforts to preserve the calm."

How then, can the disingenuous PM say this: "... he holds Hamas responsible for all attacks coming out of Gaza and threatened to use Israel's "full strength" to respond."?

[Ulysses G.]

Maybe you could quote the article in the order it was reported, instead of backwards. That might answer your question.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he holds Hamas responsible for all attacks coming out of Gaza and threatened to use Israel’s “full strength” to respond. But so far, Israeli reprisals against the recent rocket fire have been limited to empty training sites, and there have been no casualties on either side.

The Israeli military declined to comment on the matter. But defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media, said they are aware of Hamas’s efforts to preserve the calm.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hamas-in-unspoken-alliance-against-gaza-jihadists/

[DeaconJohn]

Maybe, just maybe, someone, high enough in the Hamas woke up one morning saying

to himself, ok, we have tried and tried and tried, we have lost thousands or people, our

city lies in ruins, half of the population are unemployed, and for many years we live like

dogs where we could have moved forward and live the life we deserve,

"if you can't beat them, join them " so, let see what new thinking will bring us,

Good move Hamas, you and your people will only benefit out of it, and soon....

But not Israel!

The one thing right about such an alliance would be - "unspoken".

If Israelis hope to secure their back to fight IS in the N. East - they are miscalculating.

Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact comes to mind.

One cannot make treaties, alliances or agreements with Islam.

Quite so... treaties, alliances, and agreements between such wily foes as Israel and the Islamic countries only last as long as they are strategically useful. There is no honour among that group of thieves.

The degree of influence that the Islamic State gains in Palestine will depend upon whether or not they are successful in establishing a Caliphate in the Middle East.

The never ending war fueled by race and religion in the region will enter a new phase as the American led military adventures come to an ignominious end and the radical Muslims consolidate their power.

[Steely Dan]

Israel 2200, Hamas 76 -- if it was basketball, Israel wins...

Unfortunately it is human lives.

No matter how many times the press or some of our esteemed members cite the fictional figure of 2200 deaths it remains fictional. At least with Baseball there is a neutral adjudicator, not so with anything involving Israel and the Palestinians.

P.S I very much doubt Hamas would have to resort to even informal agreements with Israel if their fighting ability were not decimated during the last conflict.

P.P.S I may be wrong but I suspect securing quiet on the Gaza front may be Israel clearing the decks to finally dismantle Hezbollah, who themselves have been severely weakened by their own little ISIS problem.

[Seastallion]

Israel 2200, Hamas 76 -- if it was basketball, Israel wins...

Unfortunately it is human lives.

No matter how many times the press or some of our esteemed members cite the fictional figure of 2200 deaths it remains fictional. At least with Baseball there is a neutral adjudicator, not so with anything involving Israel and the Palestinians.

P.S I very much doubt Hamas would have to resort to even informal agreements with Israel if their fighting ability were not decimated during the last conflict.

P.P.S I may be wrong but I suspect securing quiet on the Gaza front may be Israel clearing the decks to finally dismantle Hezbollah, who themselves have been severely weakened by their own little ISIS problem.

Re; your second post script.

So, you do think Israel and Hamas have an "understanding?

[Steely Dan]

Israel 2200, Hamas 76 -- if it was basketball, Israel wins...

Unfortunately it is human lives.

No matter how many times the press or some of our esteemed members cite the fictional figure of 2200 deaths it remains fictional. At least with Baseball there is a neutral adjudicator, not so with anything involving Israel and the Palestinians.

P.S I very much doubt Hamas would have to resort to even informal agreements with Israel if their fighting ability were not decimated during the last conflict.

P.P.S I may be wrong but I suspect securing quiet on the Gaza front may be Israel clearing the decks to finally dismantle Hezbollah, who themselves have been severely weakened by their own little ISIS problem.

Re; your second post script.

So, you do think Israel and Hamas have an "understanding?

Put it this way, though Israel's official position is neither to confirm or deny they have nuclear weapons I have heard it said from more than one source that upon gaining alleged nuclear capability they contacted the heads of every Arab state promising to obliterate them if they invaded Israel again. I don't think you would ever find official confirmation of such communication. Likewise I find it plausible that Israel and Hamas have some off the record agreement, which would be problematic for both sides were it made official.