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No, this.

"Israel is a vibrant democracy in a region dominated by autocracy, and it faces existential threats to its survival"

Like Hillary, I think anyone who compares South African Apartheid to Israel is not only stupid, but a liar. Israel is democracy where ALL citizens have the vote. There is no legitimate comparison.

I don't see the connect between your quote and your rant. "Like Hilary"? Where did she say "stupid" and "liar"?

Would that be a blatant lie that you've posted?

Nonetheless, there IS a legitimate comparison between the two boycott movements. They both intended/intend to put economic and emotive pressure on regimes that needed/need to have their horns clipped.

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There is a small core of posters who do nothing but demonize Jews

Utter nonsense.

But you should take this opportunity to prove me wrong. Who are these posters and where are these posts? Don't give us your oft trotted out line of "oh, those posts have been deleted", BS.

You and your ilk have been ceaselessly trying to link those who oppose Israeli aggression in the occupied territories to an attack on Judaism and its followers. But this is simply not true for the posters on this forum.

The BDS campaign is growing everyday and it is working. You can continue to copy and paste the same tired op-ed pieces from pro-occupationist rags that attempt to diminish BDS's impact, but the truth is quite different. If it wasn't, why is the person who is the odds on favorite to be the next president of the United States writing letters about it?

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Naming and shaming is against forum rules, but that does not mean that we can not point out the obvious without being specific. Luckily, I am allowed to be specific about the failures of BDS and articles from reputable news sources are a lot more convincing than your wishful thinking and uninformed rhetoric.

Boycotting Israel is a Stupendous Failure

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gaza-strip-crisis-boycotting-israel-stupendous-failure-1459879

The failed boycott campaign against Israel

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/rex-murphy-the-failed-boycott-campaign-against-israel

Britain's failing Israel boycott campaign The Israel boycott movement is (rather hilariously in the quoted case) flopping in the UK. Maybe steam is running out of any enthusiasm for boycott campaigns that have zero effect on Israel’s economy

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/4219/britain_s_failing_israel_boycott_campaign

Boycotting Israel is doomed to fail

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/jan/24/israelandthepalestinians-internationaltrade

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It's just a demographic and political (votes) barrage, or a clear sign of apartheid...

According to the Israel-bashers, the new definition of "apartheid" must be "unfair" and every country on earth has laws that are considered "unfair" by someone. It is a stupid definition though, considering what it really means, which has NOTHING to do with Israel

apartheid:

a former social system in South Africa in which black people and people from other racial groups did not have the same political and economic rights as white people and were forced to live separately from white people

Call it 'hafrada' like you want, it simply comes back to the 'apartheid' analogy...

No. It doesn't. Arab citizens of Israel have the same rights as Jews. The Palestinians who have refused peace with Israel for almost 70 years, do not get the same rights and won't until they negotiate with Israel directly and sign a treaty as they have committed to.

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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

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Thanks, good example that you don't know what apartheid is. Jews are subject to the exact same law as Arabs.

We invented the word and defined it. So I know what it is, it is native to me.

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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

Israeli's Plan Dalet was used long before the creation of the state of Israel. The plan covers mainly an offensive strategy on non-Israeli territory which has been defined later as occupied Palestinian territory.

The BDS movement is also claiming the illegal occupied territories since Plan Dalet. Again, the plan Dalet was used long before any Arab army invasion. Israel invaded Palestinian territory before any conflict.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Plan_Dalet.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Criticizing the Zionist entity on this forum has been forbidden. So, I will not respond on your provocative quote.

OP is about Israel...

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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

nonsense, there are plenty of jews who abhor what israel is doing. tricks!!! lol

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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

Well I hope Hilary can speed up the process of a 2 state solution, because it is the only way Israel may be able to maintain a state with a predominantly Jewish character, with full international and Palestinian recognition within roughly the 67 borders.
The current right wing Israeli government seems hell bent on a one state solution, which would need to absorb 4.5 million Palestinians (10 million incl Palestinian diaspora) or the need to ethnically cleanse them to Jordan or Egypt. And if the latter, of course there would be no internationally recognized peace but a conflict perpetuated, and consequent EU sanctions in conjunction with BDS would bring Israel to its knees and senses.
I disagree with your frequent assertions that Jews are indigenous to Palestine and that anti Zionism is racist...just the opposite in fact. But perhaps we are drifting off topic. Another thread another time maybe.
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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

Israeli's Plan Dalet was used long before the creation of the state of Israel. The plan covers mainly an offensive strategy on non-Israeli territory which has been defined later as occupied Palestinian territory.

The BDS movement is also claiming the illegal occupied territories since Plan Dalet. Again, the plan Dalet was used long before any Arab army invasion. Israel invaded Palestinian territory before any conflict.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Plan_Dalet.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Criticizing the Zionist entity on this forum has been forbidden. So, I will not respond on your provocative quote.

OP is about Israel...

Zionist entity is what Jew haters call Israel. I think you would know that considering your history here of posting neo-Nazi links.

This isn't trivial. People who deny that Jews are indigenous to Israel are closely related to holocaust deniers. Check out the rhetoric of Iranian Mullahs.

You can easily find their hate speech at pro so called Palestinian rallies and websites. You know the too bad Hitler didn't finish the job set.

Criticizing specific Israel government policies isn't Judeophobic but denying Israel's right to exist as nation with a majority Jewish character most definitely is.

That is basically what anti-Zionism is ... specific anti nationalism focused on only one ethnoreligious group. Jews.

Zionism is about political self determination for the Jewish people. Do anti Zionists oppose the right of Thais to have political self determination?

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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

Israeli's Plan Dalet was used long before the creation of the state of Israel. The plan covers mainly an offensive strategy on non-Israeli territory which has been defined later as occupied Palestinian territory.

The BDS movement is also claiming the illegal occupied territories since Plan Dalet. Again, the plan Dalet was used long before any Arab army invasion. Israel invaded Palestinian territory before any conflict.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Plan_Dalet.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Criticizing the Zionist entity on this forum has been forbidden. So, I will not respond on your provocative quote.

OP is about Israel...

Zionist entity is what Jew haters call Israel. I think you would know that considering your history here of posting neo-Nazi links.

This isn't trivial. People who deny that Jews are indigenous to Israel are closely related to holocaust deniers. Check out the rhetoric of Iranian Mullahs.

You can easily find their hate speech at pro so called Palestinian rallies and websites. You know the too bad Hitler didn't finish the job set.

Criticizing specific Israel government policies isn't Judeophobic but denying Israel's right to exist as nation with a majority Jewish character most definitely is.

That is basically what anti-Zionism is ... specific anti nationalism focused on only one ethnoreligious group. Jews.

Zionism is about political self determination for the Jewish people. Do anti Zionists oppose the right of Thais to have political self determination?

No, anti-Zionism is an abhorrence for the "River to the Sea, God's Promised Land" cult. That the right-wing Zionists happen to be Jews is neither here nor there. If it was a group of New Zealand Christians who called themselves Zionists and started a cult and claimed God had promised them all the lands from the river to the sea, I would be just as anti-Zionist toward their land-grabbing. Their religion or ethnicity has naught to do with my despising them, and I daresay it's the same for other anti-Zionists on this forum.

Who denies Israel's right to exist?

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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

Israeli's Plan Dalet was used long before the creation of the state of Israel. The plan covers mainly an offensive strategy on non-Israeli territory which has been defined later as occupied Palestinian territory.

The BDS movement is also claiming the illegal occupied territories since Plan Dalet. Again, the plan Dalet was used long before any Arab army invasion. Israel invaded Palestinian territory before any conflict.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Plan_Dalet.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Criticizing the Zionist entity on this forum has been forbidden. So, I will not respond on your provocative quote.

OP is about Israel...

Zionist entity is what Jew haters call Israel. I think you would know that considering your history here of posting neo-Nazi links.

This isn't trivial. People who deny that Jews are indigenous to Israel are closely related to holocaust deniers. Check out the rhetoric of Iranian Mullahs.

You can easily find their hate speech at pro so called Palestinian rallies and websites. You know the too bad Hitler didn't finish the job set.

Criticizing specific Israel government policies isn't Judeophobic but denying Israel's right to exist as nation with a majority Jewish character most definitely is.

That is basically what anti-Zionism is ... specific anti nationalism focused on only one ethnoreligious group. Jews.

Zionism is about political self determination for the Jewish people. Do anti Zionists oppose the right of Thais to have political self determination?

zionism is about taking more land than the un allowed them!

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Israel demonizers think they can fool the Jews to walk in the sea voluntary. Maybe that worked for the Nazis but not anymore. The agenda of BDS is no Israel for the Jews. Expect a fight about that.

When the state was created the Arabs and Muslims attacked immediately. If Israel wants to continue to exist it has no choice but to have a strong defense and also remain with a solid Jewish demographic majority. Demonizers ... none of your tricks to guilt trip Israel will work. Anti Zionism is anti Jewish racism.

Israeli's Plan Dalet was used long before the creation of the state of Israel. The plan covers mainly an offensive strategy on non-Israeli territory which has been defined later as occupied Palestinian territory.

The BDS movement is also claiming the illegal occupied territories since Plan Dalet. Again, the plan Dalet was used long before any Arab army invasion. Israel invaded Palestinian territory before any conflict.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Plan_Dalet.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

Criticizing the Zionist entity on this forum has been forbidden. So, I will not respond on your provocative quote.

OP is about Israel...

Zionist entity is what Jew haters call Israel. I think you would know that considering your history here of posting neo-Nazi links.

This isn't trivial. People who deny that Jews are indigenous to Israel are closely related to holocaust deniers. Check out the rhetoric of Iranian Mullahs.

You can easily find their hate speech at pro so called Palestinian rallies and websites. You know the too bad Hitler didn't finish the job set.

Criticizing specific Israel government policies isn't Judeophobic but denying Israel's right to exist as nation with a majority Jewish character most definitely is.

That is basically what anti-Zionism is ... specific anti nationalism focused on only one ethnoreligious group. Jews.

Zionism is about political self determination for the Jewish people. Do anti Zionists oppose the right of Thais to have political self determination?

zionism is about taking more land than the un allowed them!

That is completely incorrect, You can't make up false definitions just to further an odious demonizing agenda. Zionism is simply a political movement of political self determination of the Jewish people. Basically, it's nationalism. Now for obsessive Israel demonizers who oppose all nationalism for all nations, fine, that is a defensible though radical position. Only opposing political self determination for the Jewish people is targeting JEWS only. That is not defensible except if you think racism is defensible.

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That is completely incorrect, You can't make up false definitions just to further an odious demonizing agenda. Zionism is simply a political movement of political self determination of the Jewish people. Basically, it's nationalism. Now for obsessive Israel demonizers who oppose all nationalism for all nations, fine, that is a defensible though radical position. Only opposing political self determination for the Jewish people is targeting JEWS only. That is not defensible except if you think racism is defensible.

english your second language? saying something is "about" something is not defining it. and political self determination of jewish people does not include stealing lands that were not included in the state of israel as established by the UN

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That is completely incorrect, You can't make up false definitions just to further an odious demonizing agenda. Zionism is simply a political movement of political self determination of the Jewish people. Basically, it's nationalism. Now for obsessive Israel demonizers who oppose all nationalism for all nations, fine, that is a defensible though radical position. Only opposing political self determination for the Jewish people is targeting JEWS only. That is not defensible except if you think racism is defensible.

english your second language? saying something is "about" something is not defining it. and political self determination of jewish people does not include stealing lands that were not included in the state of israel as established by the UN

One more personal insult and you're on my ignore list. If that's what you want, fine.

You are talking about land issues, those are legitimate issues to discuss on their own merits.

But trashing all of Zionism if you understand the history of the Jewish people and the NEED for the power of a state is a disgusting racist affront to the vast majority of the world's Jewish people who support the right of political self detemination of Israel. That is not the same thing as supporting all of the policies of Israel. If you don't get the difference, that's your problem ... but again anti-Zionism is a cover for racism against Jews. You think it's OK. It's not OK. Racism is never OK.

Again, opposing Israeli government policies in a NORMAL way as you would oppose the policies of ANY government is obviously quite OK and most Jews have such criticisms as well. Opposing the existence of Israel in any borders ... anti-Zionist, targets Jew in a racist way. Totally odious.

I don't really understand why this is so hard to comprehend for so many. In Iran they regularly chant DEATH TO ISRAEL, that is anti-Zionism at it's core ... not OK.

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That is completely incorrect, You can't make up false definitions just to further an odious demonizing agenda. Zionism is simply a political movement of political self determination of the Jewish people. Basically, it's nationalism. Now for obsessive Israel demonizers who oppose all nationalism for all nations, fine, that is a defensible though radical position. Only opposing political self determination for the Jewish people is targeting JEWS only. That is not defensible except if you think racism is defensible.

english your second language? saying something is "about" something is not defining it. and political self determination of jewish people does not include stealing lands that were not included in the state of israel as established by the UN

One more personal insult and you're on my ignore list. If that's what you want, fine.

You are talking about land issues, those are legitimate issues to discuss on their own merits.

But trashing all of Zionism if you understand the history of the Jewish people and the NEED for the power of a state is a disgusting racist affront to the vast majority of the world's Jewish people who support the right of political self detemination of Israel. That is not the same thing as supporting all of the policies of Israel. If you don't get the difference, that's your problem ... but again anti-Zionism is a cover for racism against Jews. You think it's OK. It's not OK. Racism is never OK.

lol! you accuse me of insult and then call me a racist!! oh, it gets better and better! My problem with israel is that they are a rogue state in violation of international law. pretty simple really. and as long as they insist on this behaviour, I will support those who resist their thuggery.

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That's your right to support who like but it's my right to see the clear truth here ... anti-Zionism is racism against Jews unless you oppose ALL nationalist movements for any and all peoples. Opposing specific Israeli government policies (as I do) isn't. Simple really.

I don't know of one country in the world where I couldn't find policies to oppose.

But that's different than having big rallies and chanting DEATH to their entire nation states. Got it now?

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That's your right to support who like but it's my right to see the clear truth here ... anti-Zionism is racism against Jews unless you oppose ALL nationalist movements for any and all peoples. Opposing specific Israeli government policies isn't. Simple really.

wrong! I condemn all nationalist movements that insist on disregarding international law and occupying land that does not belong to it. I dont think hitler had a right to any of poland and I dont think israel has a right to the west bank. as long as the state of israel behaves like a rogue state I will condemn them. As will many Jews.

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That's your right to support who like but it's my right to see the clear truth here ... anti-Zionism is racism against Jews unless you oppose ALL nationalist movements for any and all peoples. Opposing specific Israeli government policies isn't. Simple really.

wrong! I condemn all nationalist movements that insist on disregarding international law and occupying land that does not belong to it. I dont think hitler had a right to any of poland and I dont think israel has a right to the west bank. as long as the state of israel behaves like a rogue state I will condemn them. As will many Jews.

I see. Now you are equating the government policies of modern Israel with that of Nazi Germany. That is typical Judeophobic rhetoric. I don't waste my time with those spouting such odious Israel demonizing extremism. It's too nauseating. Welcome to my ignore list.

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That's your right to support who like but it's my right to see the clear truth here ... anti-Zionism is racism against Jews unless you oppose ALL nationalist movements for any and all peoples. Opposing specific Israeli government policies isn't. Simple really.

wrong! I condemn all nationalist movements that insist on disregarding international law and occupying land that does not belong to it. I dont think hitler had a right to any of poland and I dont think israel has a right to the west bank. as long as the state of israel behaves like a rogue state I will condemn them. As will many Jews.

I see. Now you are equating the government policies of modern Israel with that of Nazi Germany. That is typical Judeophobic rhetoric. I don't waste my time with those spouting such odious Israel demonizing extremism. It's too nauseating. Welcome to my ignore list.

Illegally occupying the lands of others IS odious. Many countries have done it and ALL managed to rationalize it to themselves.The fact that your precious Israel is guilty of it seems to embarrass you severely. So much so that you choose to hide your head in the sand rather than be reminded of it. Pathetic.

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Some background on the direct link of the BDS movement and Judeophobia.

People have the right to support any movement they like but be clear those supporting BDS are supporting a Jew hating movement dedicated to ending Israel's existence:

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/03/15/from-durban-to-los-angeles-the-bds-movement%E2%80%99s-long-trail-of-anti-semitism/#

Now Feldman is either in denial or he has not experienced BDS at close quarters. Does he realise that in July and August 2014, shops, banks, universities, theatres and entire towns in Britain were targeted by a contingent of BDS activists comprising jihadi Islamists, anarchists, local gangsters and Socialist Worker Party members?

For example, in Manchester, which is home to Europe’s fastest-growing Jewish community, an Anglo-Israeli cosmetic shops was subject to a daily boycott that lasted for six weeks. I lost count of the times that I heard comments such as “Jews killed Jesus” and “You have blood on your hands.” A number of BDS activists were captured on camera expressing their admiration for Hitler or making Nazi salutes. Jews (including elderly men and women) were threatened and intimidated. Anti-Semitic leaflets were handed out to members of the public.

Anyone who has witnessed BDS in action will be in no doubt that it is anti-Semitic. But there is a case to be made that BDS is not just anti-Semitic, it is racist. Why? Because it singles out a nationality – Israelis – for differential and discriminatory treatment in the international arena. Israelis are expected to conform to an impossibly high moral standard that would endanger their well-being. When Israelis inevitably fall short of these impossible standards, they are accused of indefensible behaviour. In contrast, the Palestinian Arabs are not held up to any standard at all. That too is racist.

http://www.jpost.com/Blogs/The-View-From-the-UK/BDS-is-not-just-anti-Semitic-it-is-racist-396244

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Sounds a bit paranoid that you see a jihadi conspiracy behind the BDS campaign. I support BDS and there is no way in the world I am a jihadist. I am an atheist who thinks all religions are bs, and I find Sharia laws especially in its treatment of women sexist and abhorrent.

It matters not to them what you believe, Dexterm. As I mentioned, outsourced to foot soldiers who believe they are involved in an organisation seeking fairness, when the underlying agenda of such initiatives intends vengeance.
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Sounds a bit paranoid that you see a jihadi conspiracy behind the BDS campaign. I support BDS and there is no way in the world I am a jihadist. I am an atheist who thinks all religions are bs, and I find Sharia laws especially in its treatment of women sexist and abhorrent.

It matters not to them what you believe, Dexterm. As I mentioned, outsourced to foot soldiers who believe they are involved in an organisation seeking fairness, when the underlying agenda of such initiatives intends vengeance.

Exactly. Of course many actual fairness and justice minded people have been sucked into the BDS movement ... but it's core true agenda is HORRIFIC.

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Some background on the direct link of the BDS movement and Judeophobia.

People have the right to support any movement they like but be clear those supporting BDS are supporting a Jew hating movement dedicated to ending Israel's existence:

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/03/15/from-durban-to-los-angeles-the-bds-movement%E2%80%99s-long-trail-of-anti-semitism/#

Now Feldman is either in denial or he has not experienced BDS at close quarters. Does he realise that in July and August 2014, shops, banks, universities, theatres and entire towns in Britain were targeted by a contingent of BDS activists comprising jihadi Islamists, anarchists, local gangsters and Socialist Worker Party members?

For example, in Manchester, which is home to Europe’s fastest-growing Jewish community, an Anglo-Israeli cosmetic shops was subject to a daily boycott that lasted for six weeks. I lost count of the times that I heard comments such as “Jews killed Jesus” and “You have blood on your hands.” A number of BDS activists were captured on camera expressing their admiration for Hitler or making Nazi salutes. Jews (including elderly men and women) were threatened and intimidated. Anti-Semitic leaflets were handed out to members of the public.

Anyone who has witnessed BDS in action will be in no doubt that it is anti-Semitic. But there is a case to be made that BDS is not just anti-Semitic, it is racist. Why? Because it singles out a nationality – Israelis – for differential and discriminatory treatment in the international arena. Israelis are expected to conform to an impossibly high moral standard that would endanger their well-being. When Israelis inevitably fall short of these impossible standards, they are accused of indefensible behaviour. In contrast, the Palestinian Arabs are not held up to any standard at all. That too is racist.

http://www.jpost.com/Blogs/The-View-From-the-UK/BDS-is-not-just-anti-Semitic-it-is-racist-396244

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BTW, I don't think there is any current candidate for president in either major party who actually supports the Jew hating BDS movement.

The closest one would be Rand Paul with his family background smeared with Judeophobia but not even him.

So is it really news that Hillary opposes it?

I would be big big news if she supported it.

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BTW, I don't think there is any current candidate for president in either major party who actually supports the Jew hating BDS movement.

The closest one would be Rand Paul with his family background smeared with Judeophobia but not even him.

So is it really news that Hillary opposes it?

I would be big big news if she supported it.

Of course, one more reason america is losing its influence in the modern world.

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Sounds a bit paranoid that you see a jihadi conspiracy behind the BDS campaign. I support BDS and there is no way in the world I am a jihadist. I am an atheist who thinks all religions are bs, and I find Sharia laws especially in its treatment of women sexist and abhorrent.

It matters not to them what you believe, Dexterm. As I mentioned, outsourced to foot soldiers who believe they are involved in an organisation seeking fairness, when the underlying agenda of such initiatives intends vengeance.

It's the other way around.

BDS has a worthy agenda, but genuine antisemites find it a convenient movement to join, and why wouldn't they?. It is they who comprise some of the "foot soldiers"

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That's your right to support who like but it's my right to see the clear truth here ... anti-Zionism is racism against Jews unless you oppose ALL nationalist movements for any and all peoples. Opposing specific Israeli government policies (as I do) isn't. Simple really.

I don't know of one country in the world where I couldn't find policies to oppose.

But that's different than having big rallies and chanting DEATH to their entire nation states. Got it now?

Anti-Zionism is NOT racism against Jews.

If Zionism did not have as it's core principle the laying claim to all of Palestine, from the river to the sea, and thereby displacing or exiling all the Arabs that live there, I daresay there would hardly be any sort of anti-Zionist movement.

If Israel did not persist with the Zionist goal and withdrew from occupied territory, I daresay there would not be much of an anti-Zionist movement.

You know this very well, but you are trying to spin the issue with your histrionics so that "anti-Zionist" takes on the power of a dirty word. It won't work because the facts stand for themselves.

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it's core true agenda is HORRIFIC.

A few short months ago, hundreds of Palestinian women and children were killed by Israel and you brushed it aside. If memory serves, you cavalierly dismissed these bloody deaths with "this is what happens in a war". And now you have the gall to refer to the non-violent BDS campaign as "horrific"? Pathetic. Hold on, let me type that in style you might understand: PATHETIC.

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