Paprika (ปาปริก้า)

[Kanga Japan]

Can someone tell me if this refers to (or is generally used for) both:

1. the red pepper vegetable

2. the powdered paprika in a bottle

If it refers to both, can I assume that cayenne pepper PHRIK KHAYEN (พริกคาเยน) also refers to both?

Should I differentiate between them, or just use the one expression to refer to both the vegetable and the powdered form?

Thank you for your help.

[AyG]

The red pepper vegetable is PHRIK WAN DENG (พริกหวานแดง) - so, #1 is wrong.

PAPRIKA refers to powdered paprika. It's not a Thai ingredient and is not used (AFAIK) in Thai cooking.

PHRIK KHAYEN is different from paprika - very different type of chilli. Cayenne is incredibly hot, whilst paprika ranges from mild (almost heatless) to medium heat. Again, cayenne is not used in Thai cuisine. It's not synonymous with either #1 or #2.

So, you need three separate entries: red capsicum, paprika and cayenne.

[Kanga Japan]

Dear AyG,

Thank you for your reply.

Here in Japan they call very large red peppers 'paprika' and the small red peppers (what we would call red capsicums) as just red capsicums. I guess that PHRIK WAN DAENG would be the name for both sizes.

I realize that cayenne pepper is different from paprika. I was just wondering whether PHRIK KHAYEN would refer to the powdered form, or the vegetable, or both. Perhaps I should add PHONG (ผง).

Sorry for any confusion and thanks again for your help.

[AyG]

I vaguely recall that "paprika" is the name for capsicums in some languages (German and Hungarian, I think, and probably more) - but not in US or British English. In English it always refers to the powder. As far as I know, in Thai it only refers to the powder too.

I very much doubt that cayenne chillies have made it to Thailand. (For that matter, I've never seen then in the UK, either.) There are occasional pleas from Americans on the boards asking where they can find jalapenos and other American chilli types. Never seen a plea for cayenne. Pretty sure to say that cayenne will only refer to the powdered form which is available in some upmarket supermarkets.

Don't think you need the "PHONG". This article begins (in translation) PHRIK KHAYEN [referring to the powder] is made from PHRIK KHAYEN: http://www.foodietaste.com/FoodPedia_detail.asp?id=273

[Kanga Japan]

Dear AyG,

Thank you for your reply and that information. I've never seen cayenne chillies here and I don't think they would be available in Australia. I can't remember exactly what they call the large capsicums in Australia.

I appreciate you including the site, for confirmation.

I am clear on this now.

[Pla shado]

I concur with AyG. All three sweet (bell) peppers here are called phrik wan, (daeng, leuang or khiao). Like AyG, I've never seen paprika or cayenne used in Thai cooking although we have both in our spice rack. I'm the only one in our kitchen who uses them.

[Mole]

Paprika as in the bell pepper vegetable is just called "พริกหวาน" "แดง" just means red. Obviously bell peppers comes in a variety of colors such as green and yellow.

[Kanga Japan]

Dear Pla shado and Mole,

Thank you both for that additional information and confirmation.

Much appreciated.

[AyG]

Kanga, I'm still curious about the "very large red peppers" you refer to. Are they larger in all dimensions (I'm guessing not)? Or are they longer and fairly narrow? And do they have relatively thin skin and a sort of triangle shape?

[Kanga Japan]

Dear AyG,

I guess they (what they call 'paprika' here) would be 9-10 cm long x 8-9 cm wide (not narrow, but squarish and not tapered). They have thick skin and are very solid. They come in green, red, yellow and orange. I have seen even larger ones in Sydney (everything's larger in Sydney), but I am not sure what they call them there.

The 'paprika' here are much larger than the average capsicum here (called 'piiman'), which are about a maximum of 6-7cm long x 4-5cm wide and taper slightly at the bottom and have thin skin. These come in green (generally) and red and very occasionally you may be able to find a purple one.

[Pla shado]

There is a mild (sweet) pepper here that is called พริกหยวก (phrik yuak) that is more elongated that the พริกหวาน (phrik wan). It is usually pale green or pale yellow but can also be red. I've never seen a purple one here however. It has a much thinner skin that the sweet (bell) peppers. They are called banana peppers in the States but I think they may also be called paprika, garden pepper or Spanish pepper. I believe you have already identified this pepper though.

[Kanga Japan]

Dear Pla shado,

Thank you for that information.

Yes, I have already identified PHRIK YUAK. They are more elongated than the small peppers (capsicums) we have here and I have never seen anything like that here.

Ours are much shorter and wider. I've only seen one purple pepper here so far. I have attached a photo which I took of it.

[Pla shado]

Those are certainly striking peppers. I've never seen these in Thailand but I do recall seeing them in the States. I had a neighbor who would grow them, mostly as a novelty, and they would sometimes appear in the markets. Until seeing your photo I'd forgotten about them.

[Kanga Japan]

Dear Pla shado,

Thank you for your message. You rarely see them in Japan also.

I can only recall seeing them once.

[bangkokairportlink]

hello, do you know where to buy paprika for paella or what else we can use ? Thank you.

[Oxx]

1 hour ago, bangkokairportlink said:

hello, do you know where to buy paprika for paella or what else we can use ? Thank you.

 

I presume you mean the powder, rather than the vegetable.  Imported Spanish sweet paprika, in tins, is available in upmarket supermarkets such as Gourmet Market.  Local paprika is widely available, but the quality isn't great.  Tends to be a bit bitter.

[bangkokairportlink]

1 hour ago, Oxx said:

 

I presume you mean the powder, rather than the vegetable.  Imported Spanish sweet paprika, in tins, is available in upmarket supermarkets such as Gourmet Market.  Local paprika is widely available, but the quality isn't great.  Tends to be a bit bitter.

 

Thank you so much, maybe foodland has the powder ?

 

 

[Naam]

1 hour ago, bangkokairportlink said:

Thank you so much, maybe foodland has the powder ?

yes!

[DavisH]

1 hour ago, Naam said:

yes!

.and big containers of it too! 

[Naam]

2 hours ago, DavisH said:

.and big containers of it too! 

yes!