Pepe' Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 What Odds Are You Comfortable With? Using the odds of dying in a terrorist related attack during your lifetime as noted below from the CDC, let's compare them to the odds of dying from a long list of real, everyday dangers. 1 in 88,000 of a terrorist attack 1 in 1,500,000 of a terrorist-caused shopping mall disaster assuming one such incident a week and you shop two hours a week 1 in 55,000,000 in a terrorist-caused plane disaster assuming one such incident a month and you fly once a month ( 1 ) 1 in 55,928 of death by lightening 1 in 20,605 in your clothes igniting 1 in 10,455 of dying in your bathtub 1 in 10,010 by falling from a ladder or scaffolding 1 in 9,396 due to excessive heat 1 in 8,389 due to excessive cold 1 in 7,972 in a drowning accident 1 in 6,842 in a railway accident. Using odds of dying in a way that Americans can relate to, let's compare the above numbers to the odds of dying during your lifetime to homicide from various forms of weapons. 1 in 197 of dying in a homicide 1 in 299 of dying in an assault from a firearm 1 in 5,330 of dying in an assault by hanging or strangulation 1 in 207,261 in operations of war. Got fear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinrada Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Hospitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe' Posted March 31, 2004 Author Share Posted March 31, 2004 Rinrada, You said it!!! Want more details... NSC Home > Research & Statistics > What are the Odds of Dying? What Are the Odds of Dying? The table below was prepared in response to frequent inquiries, especially from the media, asking, "What are the odds of being killed by lightning?" or "What are the chances of dying in a plane crash?" The table has four columns. The first column gives the manner of injury such as motor-vehicle crash, fall, fire, etc. The second column gives the total number of deaths nationwide due to the manner of injury. The third column gives the odds of dying in one year due to the manner of injury. The fourth column gives the lifetime odds of dying from the manner of injury. Statements about the odds or chances of dying from a given cause of death may be made as follows: · The odds of dying from (manner of injury) in 1998 were 1 in (value given in the one-year odds column). · The life-time odds of dying from (manner of injury) for a person born in 1998 were 1 in (value given in the lifetime odds column). For example, referring to the first line of the table below: · The odds of dying from an injury in 1998 were 1 in 1,796. · The lifetime odds of dying from an injury for a person born in 1998 were 1 in 23. Source: National Safety Council estimates based on data from National Center for Health Statistics and U.S. Census Bureau. Deaths are classified on the basis of the Ninth Revision of "The International Classification of Diseases" (ICD). Numbers following titles refer to External Cause of Injury and Poisoning classifications in the ICD. One year odds are approximated by dividing the 1998 population (270,248,000) by the number of deaths. Lifetime odds are approximated by dividing the one-year odds by the life expectancy of a person born in 1998 (76.7 years). Odds of Death Due to Injury, United States, 1998Note: Lines enclosed in brackets, "[...]", are combinations of two or more lines shown elsewhere. Type of Accident or Manner of Injury Deaths, 1998 One year odds Lifetime Odds TOTAL DEATHS DUE TO INJURIES 150,445 1,796 23 All Accidental Deaths 97,835 2,762 36 Transport Accidents 45,774 5,904 77 Railway 515 524,753 6,842 Motor-vehicle 43,501 6,212 81 Other road vehicle 235 1,149,991 14,993 Water transport 692 390,532 5,092 Drowning (excluded from drowning below) 442 611,421 7,972 Other water transport 250 1,080,992 14,094 Air and space transport 692 390,532 5,092 Vehicle accidents not elsewhere classifiable 139 1,944,230 25,349 Poisoning by solids and liquids 10,255 26,353 344 $Drugs, medicaments and biologicals 9,838 27,470 358 $Analgesics, antipyretics, and antirheumatics 3,141 86,039 1,122 $Barbiturates 16 16,890,500 220,215 $Other sedatives and hypnotics 8 33,781,000 440,430 $Tranquilizers 107 2,525,682 32,929 Other psychotropic agents 334 809,126 10,549 $Other drugs acting on central and autonomic nervous system 1,540 175,486 2,288 $Antibiotics 39 6,929,436 90,345 $Anti-infectives 4 67,562,000 880,860 $Other drugs 4,649 58,130 758 $Poisoning by other solids and liquids 417 648,077 8,450 Alcohol 300 900,827 11,745 Cleansing, polishing agents, disinfectants, paints, varnishes 10 27,024,800 352,344 Petroleum products, other solvents and their vapors 37 7,304,000 95,228 Agricultural, horticultural chemical, pharmaceutical preparations 8 33,781,000 440,430 Corrosives and caustics 5 54,049,600 704,688 Foodstuffs and poisonous plants 3 90,082,667 1,174,481 Other and unspecified solids and liquids 54 5,004,593 65,249 Poisoning by gases and vapors 546 494,960 6,453 Gas distributed by pipeline 15 18,016,533 234,896 Other utility gas and other carbon monoxide 444 608,667 7,936 Motor-vehicle exhaust gas 190 1,422,358 18,544 Others, not motor-vehicle exhaust gas 254 1,063,969 13,872 Other gases and vapors 87 3,106,299 40,499 $$$Complications, misadventures of surgical, medical care 3,228 83,720 1,092 Falls 16,274 16,606 217 Fall on or from stairs or steps 1,389 194,563 2,537 Fall on or from ladders or scaffolding 352 767,750 10,010 Fall from or out of building or other structure 550 491,360 6,406 Fall into hole or other opening in surface 95 2,844,716 37,089 Other fall from one level to another 1,187 227,673 2,968 Fall on same level from slipping, tripping, or stumbling 740 365,200 4,761 Fall on same level from collision, pushing, or shoving 6 45,041,333 587,240 Fracture, cause unspecified 3,679 73,457 958 Other and unspecified fall 8,276 32,654 426 Fire and flames 3,255 83,025 1,082 Conflagration 2,687 100,576 1,311 Ignition of clothing 171 1,580,398 20,605 Ignition of highly inflammable material 55 4,913,600 64,063 Other and unspecified fire and flames 342 790,199 10,302 Natural and environmental factors 1,521 177,678 2,317 Excessive heat 375 720,661 9,396 Excessive cold 420 643,448 8,389 Hunger, thirst, exposure, and neglect 252 1,072,413 13,982 Poisoning by and toxic reaction to venomous animals, plants 64 4,222,625 55,054 Venomous snakes, lizards, and spiders 5 54,049,600 704,688 Hornets, wasps, and bees 46 5,874,957 76,597 Other and unspecified animals, plants 13 20,788,308 271,034 Other injury caused by animals 93 2,905,892 37,886 Dog bite 15 18,016,533 234,896 Other and unspecified injury by animal 78 3,464,718 45,172 Lightning 63 4,289,651 55,928 Cataclysmic storms, and floods resulting from storms 204 1,324,745 17,272 Cataclysmic earth surface movements and eruptions 24 11,260,333 146,810 Other natural and environmental factors 26 10,394,154 135,517 Other accidents 15,801 17,103 223 Drowning, submersion (excluding water transport drownings above) 3,964 68,176 889 During sport or recreation 685 394,523 5,144 In bathtub 337 801,923 10,455 Other, unspecified drowning, submersion 2,942 91,859 1,198 Inhalation and ingestion of food 1,147 235,613 3,072 Inhalation and ingestion of other object 2,368 114,125 1,488 Mechanical suffocation 1,070 252,568 3,293 In bed or cradle 247 1,094,121 14,265 By plastic bag 27 10,009,185 130,498 Due to lack of air (in refrigerator, other enclosed space) 13 20,788,308 271,034 By falling earth (noncataclysmic cave-in) 55 4,913,600 64,063 Other and unspecified mechanical suffocation 728 371,220 4,840 Struck by falling object 723 373,787 4,873 Struck against or by objects or persons 336 804,310 10,486 Caught in or between objects 118 2,290,237 29,860 Machinery 1,018 265,470 3,461 Agricultural machines 567 476,628 6,214 Lifting machines and appliances 114 2,370,596 30,907 Earth moving, scraping, and other excavating machines 79 3,420,861 44,601 Other, unspecified machinery 258 1,047,473 13,657 Cutting or piercing instruments or objects 121 2,233,455 29,119 Firearm missile 866 312,065 4,069 Handgun 140 1,930,343 25,167 Shotgun (automatic) 87 3,106,299 40,499 Hunting rifle 50 5,404,960 70,469 Other and unspecified firearm missile 589 458,825 5,982 Explosive material 155 1,743,535 22,732 Fireworks 13 20,788,308 271,034 Explosive gases 60 4,504,133 58,724 Other and unspecified explosive material 82 3,295,707 42,969 Hot substance or object, corrosive material and steam 108 2,502,296 32,624 Electric current 548 493,153 6,430 Domestic wiring and appliances 59 4,580,475 59,719 Generating plants, distribution stations, transmission lines 144 1,876,722 24,468 Industrial wiring, appliances, and electrical machinery 27 10,009,185 130,498 Other and unspecified electric current 318 849,836 11,080 Radiation - Other and unspecified 3,259 82,924 1,081 Late effects (deaths more than one year after accident) 905 298,617 3,893 Adverse effects of drugs in therapeutic use 276 979,159 12,766 ***All Suicide Deaths 30,575 8,839 115 Poisoning by solid and liquid 3,346 80,767 1,053 Poisoning by gases and vapors 1,726 156,575 2,041 Motor-vehicle exhaust gas 1,329 203,347 2,651 Other and unspecified gases and vapors 397 680,725 8,875 Hanging, strangulation, and suffocation 5,726 47,197 615 Drowning 375 720,661 9,396 Firearms 17,424 15,510 202 Handgun 3,541 76,320 995 Shotgun 2,303 117,346 1,530 Hunting rifle 849 318,313 4,150 Other and unspecified firearm 10,731 25,184 328 Cutting and piercing instruments 476 567,748 7,402 Jumping from high places 621 435,182 5,674 Other, unspecified suicide and late effects 881 306,751 3,999 All Homicide Deaths 17,893 15,104 197 Assault by hanging and strangulation 661 408,847 5,330 Assault by firearm 11,798 22,906 299 Handgun 1,047 258,117 3,365 Shotgun 747 361,778 4,717 Hunting rifle 141 1,916,652 24,989 Other and unspecified firearm 9,863 27,400 357 Assault by cutting and piercing instrument 2,087 129,491 1,688 Child battering and other maltreatment 194 1,393,031 18,162 Other, unspecified assault and late effects 3,153 85,711 1,117 Legal Intervention 379 713,055 9,297 Undetermined Whether Accidentally or Purposely Inflicted 3,746 72,143 941 Poisoning by solid and liquid 2,351 114,950 1,499 Poisoning by gases and vapors 82 3,295,707 42,969 Motor-vehicle exhaust gas 42 6,434,476 83,891 Other and unspecified gases and vapors 40 6,756,200 88,086 Drowning 249 1,085,333 14,150 Firearms 316 855,215 11,150 Other, unspecified undetermined deaths and late effects 748 361,294 4,710 Deaths From Operations of War, 17 15,896,941 207,261 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I reckon my odds of getting whacked by a terrorist are better than winning the Powerball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe' Posted March 31, 2004 Author Share Posted March 31, 2004 Boon Mee, Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Boon Mee,Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Pepe~ Those are better odds than winning the mega-million Powerball in the states. Can't remember what the odds are picking 6 numbers and the Powerball but they're real high. I always buy Thai Lottery tickets - don't win much but keep trying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Boon Mee,Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Pepe~ Those are better odds than winning the mega-million Powerball in the states. Can't remember what the odds are picking 6 numbers and the Powerball but they're real high. I always buy Thai Lottery tickets - don't win much but keep trying... It is a bit dangerous to go out I think. Safer to stay home in bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Boon Mee,Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Pepe~ Those are better odds than winning the mega-million Powerball in the states. Can't remember what the odds are picking 6 numbers and the Powerball but they're real high. I always buy Thai Lottery tickets - don't win much but keep trying... It is a bit dangerous to go out I think. Safer to stay home in bed Depends on who you're in bed with and if there's any knives in the vicinity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Boon Mee,Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Pepe~ Those are better odds than winning the mega-million Powerball in the states. Can't remember what the odds are picking 6 numbers and the Powerball but they're real high. I always buy Thai Lottery tickets - don't win much but keep trying... It is a bit dangerous to go out I think. Safer to stay home in bed Depends on who you're in bed with and if there's any knives in the vicinity! and whether there's ducks around the backyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxexile Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 reading this thread you are likely to stand a one in two chance of dying of boredom. yaaaaaaaaawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adjan jb Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Boon Mee,Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Pepe~ Those are better odds than winning the mega-million Powerball in the states. Can't remember what the odds are picking 6 numbers and the Powerball but they're real high. I always buy Thai Lottery tickets - don't win much but keep trying... It is a bit dangerous to go out I think. Safer to stay home in bed Depends on who you're in bed with and if there's any knives in the vicinity! and whether there's ducks around the backyard Boon Mee,Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Pepe~ Those are better odds than winning the mega-million Powerball in the states. Can't remember what the odds are picking 6 numbers and the Powerball but they're real high. I always buy Thai Lottery tickets - don't win much but keep trying... It is a bit dangerous to go out I think. Safer to stay home in bed Depends on who you're in bed with and if there's any knives in the vicinity! and whether there's ducks around the backyard Boon Mee,Funny you should say that. I just checked the Thai lottery site and the calculator said that you have got a 1 in 18,424 chance of picking 6 numbers. If that's correct them are pretty good odds... Pepe~ Those are better odds than winning the mega-million Powerball in the states. Can't remember what the odds are picking 6 numbers and the Powerball but they're real high. I always buy Thai Lottery tickets - don't win much but keep trying... It is a bit dangerous to go out I think. Safer to stay home in bed Depends on who you're in bed with and if there's any knives in the vicinity! and whether there's ducks around the backyard And whether you take Viagra or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancali Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Somebody get this thread to Mr. Bush! These are alarming statistics! Imagine, bathtubs have been lurking in our midst for all these years but they're really the silent killers! If we're spending 30 billion a month on fighting terrorism, we ought to be spending well over 100 billion a month fighting bathtubs given how they are so much more deadly. On a more serious note, the threat of terrorism is way overblown. Yeah, terrorist attacks are absolutely horrible, but that doesn't mean we should be in a state of emergency, lose civil liberties, and spend ourselves into bankruptcy. The solution to terrorism seems worse than terrorism itself. Imagine a terrorist attack that unleashed a virus which killed 600 people, and had lingering effects which would kill some 30 people a month for the indefinite future. On top of this, the cleanup costs and other economic effects were in the range of $200 billion plus a further $10 billion a month for the indefinite future. Sounds pretty horrible right? Oh, wait, this isn't an imagined terrorist attack, it's the solution to the possible threat posed by Hussein. Where's the cost-benefit analysis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnustedt Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 If we're spending 30 billion a month on fighting terrorism, we ought to be spending well over 100 billion a month fighting bathtubs given how they are so much more deadly. Doesn't that just show how effective Mr Bush's policies have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancali Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 Well, this could be used as evidence that his war on terror is working, but it doesn't prove anything. Perhaps there wouldn't have been a terrorist attack anyway. Or perhaps he could have gotten similar results without spending so many resources and curtailing civil liberties. The point is, though, that terrorism is very bad, but it's not close to being absolutely bad, and we shouldn't spend such a disproportionate amount of resources on fighting the noun "terrorism". Another debate altogether, is that we could be fighting terrorism in a much better way than the fanning the flames approach we're taking with Iraq. But that's another debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted April 1, 2004 Share Posted April 1, 2004 reading this thread you are likely to stand a one in two chance of dying of boredom.yaaaaaaaaawn. Yeah, we are in serious need of some fresh material... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pepe' Posted April 1, 2004 Author Share Posted April 1, 2004 I say lightening rods for everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 In light of the last few days I am starting to believe that the people of Iraq are not ready for Democaracy and they need a dictator such as Saddam to keep them from acting out their animalistic fantasies. But as always we learn too late!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig15 Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I think the odds of dying form cold in Thailand are a little longer than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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