lostoday Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I know how to order noodle soup! But I still pay more for it as I look like a tourist. Going to work on my squint and get a nose job that might help. It has been my experience that people who point out racial and ethnic differences in appearance between people are normally low class and uneducated. Many Thais really don't like Burmese or Cambodian people and discriminate against them daily. Although I did know one noodle seller who charged people who smelled bad more money because she felt they drove away business. Understanding Thai would allow one to know if the higher prices were because of appearance or odor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Don't matter how well you sapeek Thai, a number will still pretend they don't understand you Not true. In my experience unless there is another reason for the pretended ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Don't matter how well you sapeek Thai, a number will still pretend they don't understand you Have you ever pretended that you can't speak English because you didn't want to listen to a sales pitch or just didn't want to deal with someone? Jacky54, you're a persistent little bugger, I'll give you that. If you spent as much time studying Thai as you seem to spend thinking up reasons why it's not worth the time, you'd probably be fluent by now, but to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartempion Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I was stopped by some coppers on a deserted local road. They asked: "pood Thai dai?" To which I replied in a split second: "pood Thai mai dai!" They had a laugh and let me go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Learning Thai will of course get you out of the Bar Scene and in to mainstream Thailand where you will meet the best girls. That is a given. But what is more important, and never discussed, is the fact that learning Thai will improve the quality of your sex: Joop te ne dai mai Cha Cha Bough bough Chorp daw yai mai Khun lum pai Jep mai Aow ek mai Por Lell Nam Tairk Lell Edited July 19, 2015 by Bulldozer Dawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Saying, in your best sarcastic/diplomatic/polite voice, with a smile "Oh, you didn't see me waiting here. The end of the queue is behind me.": And if that doesn't deter the queue jumper, in an imperious voice, sans smile, and with a cold stare, "I was here first!" That always gets the oh, oh, you were here first..yes, mai pen rai..and they get in behind. Or if it's an older Chinese, a very cold stare back and a grumpy move out of the way with no words. When someone Thai gets pushy on line or barks out their order (usually for cigarettes) to the check-out girl while I'm checking out my goods, I just tell them, if they are in a hurry, if they pay for me it will all go much faster. Edited July 19, 2015 by JLCrab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Don't matter how well you sapeek Thai, a number will still pretend they don't understand you There are many places such as markets . food stalls, etc that employs non-Thais including Burmese, Khmers and Chinese. Many of these people look like they are Thai but have very bad Thai language skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Being able to speak thai is important for 2 things, dealing with rogue police and for random dinner table chat. Thats it really. I think most thais prefer it when they think farangs are 'fresh' and dont speak thai (especially potential dates) Ever been in an accident? Found yourself alone on a small Thai road at midnight looking for a way home? Gone to a medical service provider who did not speak English? Had to deal with utilities like phone or internet or electricity or water on the phone? Ever tried to describe what was wrong with your car? Ever bought insurance? Ever tried to get a refund? I could go on. Not speaking Thai is like being deaf and dumb in Thailand. Yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, yes and yes. And also happily married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Before I moved out of Phuket for good. I learnt the phrase, "I don't speak English" in Russian When I was approached by an English speaking tourist I replied: "I don't speak English", in Russian When I was approached by a Russian speaking tourist I replied: "I don't speak Russian", in English When I was approached by a Thai male I replied: "I don't speak Thai", in English When I approached a Thai female I spoke my very best pasa Thai. I didn't move here for the temples and food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Being able to speak thai is important for 2 things, dealing with rogue police and for random dinner table chat. Thats it really. I think most thais prefer it when they think farangs are 'fresh' and dont speak thai (especially potential dates) Ever been in an accident? Found yourself alone on a small Thai road at midnight looking for a way home? Gone to a medical service provider who did not speak English? Had to deal with utilities like phone or internet or electricity or water on the phone? Ever tried to describe what was wrong with your car? Ever bought insurance? Ever tried to get a refund? I could go on. Not speaking Thai is like being deaf and dumb in Thailand. Yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, yes and yes. And also happily married. Do you speak Thai? No? You're wife let you contract for water and electric and telelphone service at your home? Sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Being able to speak thai is important for 2 things, dealing with rogue police and for random dinner table chat. Thats it really. I think most thais prefer it when they think farangs are 'fresh' and dont speak thai (especially potential dates) Ever been in an accident? Found yourself alone on a small Thai road at midnight looking for a way home? Gone to a medical service provider who did not speak English? Had to deal with utilities like phone or internet or electricity or water on the phone? Ever tried to describe what was wrong with your car? Ever bought insurance? Ever tried to get a refund? I could go on. Not speaking Thai is like being deaf and dumb in Thailand. Yes, yes, yes, yes,yes, yes and yes. And also happily married. Do you speak Thai? No? You're wife let you contract for water and electric and telelphone service at your home? Sure... Sorry I don't understand your English but if you repeat that in Thai, my wife will translate it for me instantly. Thanks. Edited July 19, 2015 by fish fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Jesus. You could tell this joke in Thai to your neighbors: "Jesus and Buddha went in to a bar to get a drink......" Yes you will still get stabbed afterwards but at least you will know why They won't laugh because essentially it's just putting Thais down. Something that happens a lot on here. No, they wont laugh as most thais have absolutely terrible sense of humor. Personally think thai's have a great sense of humour. Infact thats the top reason to learn Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Before I moved out of Phuket for good. I learnt the phrase, "I don't speak English" in Russian When I was approached by an English speaking tourist I replied: "I don't speak English", in Russian When I was approached by a Russian speaking tourist I replied: "I don't speak Russian", in English When I was approached by a Thai male I replied: "I don't speak Thai", in English When I approached a Thai female I spoke my very best pasa Thai. I didn't move here for the temples and food. Care factor? Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Not much of an advantage outside of Thailand Absolute bollcks. I've devloped a world class list of clients based outside of Thailand precisely because I can speak Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I just learnt how to say "Do you want some tea" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry1011 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Anybody on here can imagine the advantages of reading, writing and speaking fluent Thai. But, in reality, life in Thailand for those who speak fluent Thai is actually far better than what people who can't speak the language can even imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) I'm not exactly a "fluent" speaker, but I can read and write to fairly well. That's paid off several times when I've been pressed into doing last minute translations of presentations (slides & text) that Thai government people were planning to give to groups of retired people here in Chiang Mai. The most nerve-wracking was when Chiang Mai Immigration agreed to speak to the CM Expats Club in October 2014 and then had to get their presentation vetted by Bangkok. We fully expected that Bangkok might say "mai dai" to the entire idea of speaking to a crowd of 250 retired westerners. But they called us two days ahead of the presentation to say everything was approved, but they would have to use PowerPoint slides in Thai -- was that OK? Uh no, not really. So, I did an all-nighter translating their Thai Power Point and returned it to them on Tuesday morning for them to OK the English version. On several of their Thai slides, I had trouble understanding what they were trying to say and had to research the actual Thai law on the internet in writing the English version. Amazingly, they changed the Thai slide of the final presentation to agree with my English version in those cases! My Expat Club colleagues didn't know what to make of my reaction when I saw their Thai slides for the first time during the actual talk and went "woo-hoo" when I saw those changed Thai slides and realized the Immigration officials had not only read what I'd translated into English, but realized what they'd written in Thai on a few of the slides (originally) wasn't correct and they'd made last minute changes. Edited July 19, 2015 by NancyL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Before I moved out of Phuket for good. I learnt the phrase, "I don't speak English" in Russian When I was approached by an English speaking tourist I replied: "I don't speak English", in Russian When I was approached by a Russian speaking tourist I replied: "I don't speak Russian", in English When I was approached by a Thai male I replied: "I don't speak Thai", in English When I approached a Thai female I spoke my very best pasa Thai. I didn't move here for the temples and food. Actually, I used to do the same in Denmark. Now, if I start speaking Thai to a Thai person and they reply in English, I pretend I don't speak English but some other Europen language (German, Italian or whatever.) I hate the two language conversations, especially if their English is not up to it. As for advantages: 1. Being accepted at many more places. 2. Being treated with more respect in shops, markets and so on 3. Being able to find different "non-touristis" places in Thailand 4. Paying "Thai" prices 5. Being able to talk to some really cute girls that don't speak English There are many more advantages, but I will leave them to other TV members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Another example was once when I renewed my passport and had to transfer the visa from the old passport to the new. I was at Chaeng Wattana and I could see that I had a long long wait judging by number. At 11.50 I was still a long long way off and I could see myself sitting there until 4 or 5 pm. Anyway, this officer came out and asked if I spoke Thai. I replied that I did and explained what I was waiting for. He took me into his office and did the whole process of transferring the visa himself. He then went on to tell me that he hated working at Chaeng wattana (it was shortly after they moved from Suan Plu). He told me that he he felt more isolated and didn't have contact with people. We even had a quick lunch together and I went on my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Being able to speak thai is important for 2 things, dealing with rogue police and for random dinner table chat. Thats it really. I think most thais prefer it when they think farangs are 'fresh' and dont speak thai (especially potential dates) The only potential dates that prefer guys who can't speak Thai are the kind you meet in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I by no means speak fluent Thai, but do what I consider speak reasonable Thai. The advantage this gives me is independence. I do not require a Thai person to hold my hand and accompany me while I stand there like a retard, oblivious to what`s going on for the negotiating of my business I can go anywhere solo within the country, converse with people, get the message across what I want, do my own transacting and in full control of my own affairs. So for me speaking reasonable Thai is a necessity and not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Learning Thai will of course get you out of the Bar Scene and in to mainstream Thailand where you will meet the best girls. That is a given. But what is more important, and never discussed, is the fact that learning Thai will improve the quality of your sex: Joop te ne dai mai Cha Cha Bough bough Chorp daw yai mai Khun lum pai Jep mai Aow ek mai Por Lell Nam Tairk Lell No4 might backfire (so to speak) if the guy can't back it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) I have been robbing banks, liquor stores, gold shops, and the occasional 7-Eleven here in Thailand for close to ten years. Unfortunately, my getaways haven't always gone according to plan and I have been arrested more times than I care to admit, sometimes after high-speed car chases and shoot-outs involving hostage taking and injury to innocent bystanders. When the coppers get me down to the station house, one of the first things they usually ask is if I can speak Thai. When I tell them, "Naaaa!", they usually chuckle, take off the cuffs, and send me on my merry way, usually with a gentle cuff to the back of the head, or at most, a brief finger wagging lecture about my naughty behavior. I have no doubt that if I spoke Thai, I would be rotting away in some provincial prison as we speak. I would say that I owe my very freedom to not being able to speak Thai. Not learning Thai has been one of the best decisions of my life! Edited July 19, 2015 by Gecko123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Anybody on here can imagine the advantages of reading, writing and speaking fluent Thai. But, in reality, life in Thailand for those who speak fluent Thai is actually far better than what people who can't speak the language can even imagine. Sometimes the truth, stated simply and eloquently, sounds like a thunderclap coming from a clear blue sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgerking Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Communicating with the people of the country where their first language is Thai. It's a no brainer really don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 One thing about speaking Thai or not...driving from Issan to Bangkok I get pulled over quite frequently, not for driving fast, just for being a foreigner. I used to get fined every time when I spoke Thai to the policemen. The last couple of years I've don't my best English accent, asked them about the weather and been waved on very quickly. Only once have I met a policemen who could speak good enough English to understand me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterphil Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The first and most significant advantage is by learning the language you attain the independence of 'self advocacy'. You no longer rely on others to translate/interpret for you; the information you receive is no longer filtered or spun by an intermediary. This is the best reply by far. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee4Life Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I can only name the advantages of speaking Thai unproficiently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Not much of an advantage outside of Thailand i try , need to try more , for me it is a hard speak . but i will tell you this ..... if you feel you need to speak Thai to find a toilet then you need to stay home . what you said was as dumb as a box of rocks ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csabo Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Not much of an advantage outside of Thailand I never seem to use Icelandic in California either. Thanks for the tip Captain Obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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