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I have been in Thailand for 5 1/2 years on Non-Immigrant O-A visa (retirement) and have been blessed with a now 22 month-old daughter. I went to Bangkok and submitted paperwork for her Consular Report of Birth Abroad, Social Security number, and an American passport. All is good and passport should arrive in 3 weeks or so.

Now, if I plan a trip to America with my daughter, I can get a re-entry permit and when we return, I am good and still maintain my visa. But, what happens to my daughter? Is she tacked on to my visa or does she enter with no visa and can stay legally for only 30 days?

I asked this of my Thai wife and she said when she comes back, she is just Thai and has Thai birth certificate to prove it. But, I asked her, what if we want to travel to America (or anywhere) for a second trip. Thai Immigration would look at her passport and see that she was in Thailand more than 30 days with no visa and then what?

Appreciate any help in sorting this out. Thanks

lar

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Your daughter was born in Thailand with a Thai mother. Therefore she is a Thai citizen.You have stated that she has a Thai birthcertificate.Apply for a Thai passport before your family depart. Your daughter will then depart on the Thai passport and enter USA on US passport. When your family return to Thailand she will enter Thailand on her Thai passport.

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Happens all the time, Traveling with a minor..

Get the baby a Thai passport.

Then,

Travel too USA on USA Passport...No visa required

Return to Thailand using Her Thai passport.. No visa required

Also good idea too carry Both her passports and Original birth cert while traveling

if other parent not traveling with you have thier ID card info or passport copy all signed and dated

as well as a short signed and dated letter from other parent acknowledging that she approves of travel with daddy is OK

good luck

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The child is Thai/American and is entitled to a passport from either or both countries.

To avoid any potential problem/difficulty you should obtain a Thai passport for her.

Then

Leave Thailand showing both passports at the check-in but just the Thai passport to immigration.

Enter America using the American passport

Reverse the process on return.

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Thanks for the above answers but it still begs more questions.

Let's say my daughter gets both Thai and US passports. Flies to US and enters with US passport and then departs for return to Thailand with Thai passport. So far, so good.

But, the next trip to America she arrives with US passport and US Immigration asks when she departed America from the first trip since it is not indicated in her US passport because she traveled on Thai passport and if she manages to sweet talk her way onboard what happens when she arrives in Thailand and is asked basically the same question - When did you depart Thailand since it is not indicated in her Thai passport?

Posted

Thanks for the above answers but it still begs more questions.

Let's say my daughter gets both Thai and US passports. Flies to US and enters with US passport and then departs for return to Thailand with Thai passport. So far, so good.

But, the next trip to America she arrives with US passport and US Immigration asks when she departed America from the first trip since it is not indicated in her US passport because she traveled on Thai passport and if she manages to sweet talk her way onboard what happens when she arrives in Thailand and is asked basically the same question - When did you depart Thailand since it is not indicated in her Thai passport?

Always enter and depart on the passport for the appropriate country. Leave Thailand show Thai passport. Arrive US and show US passport. Leave US show US passport, arrive Thailand show Thai passport.

OB

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Thanks for the above answers but it still begs more questions.

Let's say my daughter gets both Thai and US passports. Flies to US and enters with US passport and then departs for return to Thailand with Thai passport. So far, so good.

But, the next trip to America she arrives with US passport and US Immigration asks when she departed America from the first trip since it is not indicated in her US passport because she traveled on Thai passport and if she manages to sweet talk her way onboard what happens when she arrives in Thailand and is asked basically the same question - When did you depart Thailand since it is not indicated in her Thai passport?

What you have been told is correct, and immigration are well used to dual nationals. If asked, simply tell the truth.

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Frankly unless you are a terrorist, Immigration in Thailand and the US don't really care if you are dual national or if you have used the same passport to exit or enter on.

I am a dual national and often flip passports by air between countries. Bit more difficult by land borders but it can be done!

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my daughter is thai/american and we went back and forth many times ( she is now in uni there)

as an American u are not stamped into America

depart Thailand on her THAI passport ( show the us passport at check in as she wont have a visa for the states)

arrive in us show her us passport

depart us on us passport, arrive in Thailand on Thai passport

the thai passport is ONLY 1,000 baht an they will ems it so ur home for an extra 35 baht so u only need visit once,

Both parents need be there to apply.

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Thanks for the above answers but it still begs more questions.

Let's say my daughter gets both Thai and US passports. Flies to US and enters with US passport and then departs for return to Thailand with Thai passport. So far, so good.

But, the next trip to America she arrives with US passport and US Immigration asks when she departed America from the first trip since it is not indicated in her US passport because she traveled on Thai passport and if she manages to sweet talk her way onboard what happens when she arrives in Thailand and is asked basically the same question - When did you depart Thailand since it is not indicated in her Thai passport?

Always enter and depart on the passport for the appropriate country. Leave Thailand show Thai passport. Arrive US and show US passport. Leave US show US passport, arrive Thailand show Thai passport.

OB

And what doe you say when immigration asks where your departure stamp is located. Your safest bet is to contact Thai immigration.

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Thanks for the above answers but it still begs more questions.

Let's say my daughter gets both Thai and US passports. Flies to US and enters with US passport and then departs for return to Thailand with Thai passport. So far, so good.

But, the next trip to America she arrives with US passport and US Immigration asks when she departed America from the first trip since it is not indicated in her US passport because she traveled on Thai passport and if she manages to sweet talk her way onboard what happens when she arrives in Thailand and is asked basically the same question - When did you depart Thailand since it is not indicated in her Thai passport?

Always enter and depart on the passport for the appropriate country. Leave Thailand show Thai passport. Arrive US and show US passport. Leave US show US passport, arrive Thailand show Thai passport.

OB

And what doe you say when immigration asks where your departure stamp is located. Your safest bet is to contact Thai immigration.

Which departure stamp?

OB

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And what doe you say when immigration asks where your departure stamp is located. Your safest bet is to contact Thai immigration.

No need to contact Thai Immigration. Not all countries stamp for their citizens and Europe don't stamp any European including Britons. Immigration officers know that very well.

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