From what I gather from reports on thaivisa.com you can expect to get the red and blue warning stamps on your TV visa somewhere around your 4th application in same consulate. So was kind of stunned when I found both stamps (the red one about having applied for TVs several times and the blue one asking for proof of residence and financial income next time) on my very first TV from Vientiane in current passport. My passport had only 2 single entries , one from PP . one from Bali, and one 30-day visa exempt entry. Either I picked a really bad day, staff in crackdown mode or something; or they can and do dig into their archives/computer records now, as I got a couple of TVs in Vientiane 4/5 years ago in old expired passport.

Basically these stamps mean don't come back here.

My question is do other consulates pay attention to these stamps or do they ignore anything that comes from consulates and embassies in other countries? My guess would be somewhere in the middle:Sometimes they do , sometimes they don't. Any of you guys have tried applying in different locales with stamps

The stamps are specific to Vientiane .

It seem out of the normal. It could be a mistake.

Very strange! Either someone stamped your passport in error, they've counted your old applications, or they simply want proof next time because of the time you've stayed in the country.

"Basically these stamps mean don't come back here.

My question is do other consulates pay attention to these stamps or do they ignore anything that comes from consulates and embassies in other countries?"

Even with the stamps, as long as you can prove your income, you can still apply again. They are not limiting the number of visas you can have but the number of visas without proof of how you fund your stay. It's their only way to make life hard for illegal workers using TV's. If you're legit you shouldn't have a problem at Vientiane or anywhere else. Proof of income can be asked for at anytime.

edit. The title of your thread is misleading as it's not your first application there. On the basis that it's your third application the stamps fit with their standard practice of asking for proof of income for the fourth application. What surprises me is if they are now counting historical applications and not just those in your passport. Maybe they've updated their computer system and database!

Edited August 14, 201510 yr by elviajero

Were you asked to show 10,000 THB and couldn't?

Let this be a warning to you and others.

No, I wasn't asked to show money. I always have enough cash(at least 20000) on me just in case,but never been asked,neither at embassy nor at border.

I guess it has/had to happen sooner or later that they upgrade their computer system and don't have to rely on what is in your passport any more.

Another interesting observation was that new window:tour groups only.A lot of. Filipinos in that queue.I talked to one of them and they go through a Vientiane based agency.Seems to me by paying a little extra,they can secure a "stamp free" visa and doing so repeatedly.But didn't see a single farang in that tour group only queue

Very strange! Either someone stamped your passport in error, they've counted your old applications, or they simply want proof next time because of the time you've stayed in the country.

"Basically these stamps mean don't come back here.

My question is do other consulates pay attention to these stamps or do they ignore anything that comes from consulates and embassies in other countries?"

Even with the stamps, as long as you can prove your income, you can still apply again. They are not limiting the number of visas you can have but the number of visas without proof of how you fund your stay. It's their only way to make life hard for illegal workers using TV's. If you're legit you shouldn't have a problem at Vientiane or anywhere else. Proof of income can be asked for at anytime.

edit. The title of your thread is misleading as it's not your first application there. On the basis that it's your third application the stamps fit with their standard practice of asking for proof of income for the fourth application. What surprises me is if they are now counting historical applications and not just those in your passport. Maybe they've updated their computer system and database!

Even if that were the case, i thought that the emphasis for the caution stamps were for 3 (or more) consecutive tourist visas from the consulate? The advice has always (recently) been to use another embassy/consulate to break the pattern.

The OP had broken that path with single entries from two different sources, PP and Bali. He states that previous visas from Laos were obtained 4/5 years ago.

Edited August 14, 201510 yr by chrisinth

A friend of mine yesterday was at the thai consulate in Vientiane for his Non Immigrant O "retirement" and they denied it because he didn't have the Residency Certificate, my assumption is that they were looking for the receipt of the tm28/tm30 ... BTW he got a tourist visa. Going back to the Topic he told me that one of the officer there told him that a foreigner can stay in Thailand, for tourism purposes, only 6 months in a year time... now, I've heard of this some time ago, but I thought that they never enforced this rule... do you think is possible that this is the reason why the OP has got a red and a blue warning stamp?

Edited August 15, 201510 yr by Siriam

"one of the officer there told him that a foreigner can stay in Thailand, for tourism purposes, only 6 months in a year time... "

There is no such restriction but that does not stop the rumours being repeated.

Very strange! Either someone stamped your passport in error, they've counted your old applications, or they simply want proof next time because of the time you've stayed in the country.

"Basically these stamps mean don't come back here.

My question is do other consulates pay attention to these stamps or do they ignore anything that comes from consulates and embassies in other countries?"

Even with the stamps, as long as you can prove your income, you can still apply again. They are not limiting the number of visas you can have but the number of visas without proof of how you fund your stay. It's their only way to make life hard for illegal workers using TV's. If you're legit you shouldn't have a problem at Vientiane or anywhere else. Proof of income can be asked for at anytime.

edit. The title of your thread is misleading as it's not your first application there. On the basis that it's your third application the stamps fit with their standard practice of asking for proof of income for the fourth application. What surprises me is if they are now counting historical applications and not just those in your passport. Maybe they've updated their computer system and database!

Even if that were the case, i thought that the emphasis for the caution stamps were for 3 (or more) consecutive tourist visas from the consulate? The advice has always (recently) been to use another embassy/consulate to break the pattern.

The OP had broken that path with single entries from two different sources, PP and Bali. He states that previous visas from Laos were obtained 4/5 years ago.

Thats why I'm surprised. It has been the case that they warn those with back to back visas. In my experience it was a manual check of the passport to count previous visas.

The advice to break the cycle is only necessary for people that can't provide the income proof.

Yes I missed the PP, Bali bit. My apologies.

"one of the officer there told him that a foreigner can stay in Thailand, for tourism purposes, only 6 months in a year time... "

There is no such restriction but that does not stop the rumours being repeated.

So it's just a rumour ? It's not the first time I'm hearing of this "alleged rule" , happy to hear that is just a bunch of baloney!

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

1. Bank statements showing withdrawals occurring in Thailand

2. ATM withdrawal slips.

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

Depends on how you earn your income.

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

Depends on how you earn your income.

I life on savings from my german bank account

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

Depends on how you earn your income.

I life on savings from my german bank account

Then all that is needed is Statements from the German which show withdrawals occurring in Thailand.

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

Depends on how you earn your income.

I life on savings from my german bank account

Then, as advised by nowretired you could provide them with bank statements showing the amount of your savings.

If the statements also show withdrawals in Thailand that can prove that you are funding your stay from income abroad even better.

The purpose of the income check is to satisfy the embassy/consulate that you have no need to work in Thailand and have enough money to fund your stay.

if you're planning on staying here it would be a good idea to open a Thai bank account (savings) and make regular transfers to that account from your German bank. Then you have all the proof you need for future applications.

Edited August 15, 201510 yr by elviajero

And so i can get more then 4 tourist visas in a row from the same consulate ?

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

1. Bank statements showing withdrawals occurring in Thailand

2. ATM withdrawal slips.

20k cash no?

And so i can get more then 4 tourist visas in a row from the same consulate ?

There is no guarantee of you being able to do that.

And so i can get more then 4 tourist visas in a row from the same consulate ?

There is no law or rule limiting the amount of tourist visas.

Vientiane do not limit the number to 4. They limit the number to 3 without proof of income.

How can i proof my income when i not have a thai bank account ?

1. Bank statements showing withdrawals occurring in Thailand

2. ATM withdrawal slips.

20k cash no?

No. It doesn't help in the case of needing to prove income from abroad.

So after three they only want the proof of income ?

Repeat after me : There is absolutely no crackdown on tourist visa.

So after three they only want the proof of income ?

And proof of where you are living in Thailand.

So after three they only want the proof of income ?

And proof of where you are living in Thailand.

How many successful visa application with proof of address and income after red stamp have you seen reported?

For me ZERO.

The only report I read was a guy saying he was refused despite providing POI and POA.

So after three they only want the proof of income ?

And proof of where you are living in Thailand.

How many successful visa application with proof of address and income after red stamp have you seen reported?

For me ZERO.

The only report I read was a guy saying he was refused despite providing POI and POA.

None. But thats probably because most people applying for these visas can't prove their income and so go elsewhere.

Could you post the link to that report. I'd be interested to read it. But regardless one report or ten doesn't mean everyone will be denied. If the proof is inadequate they will deny the visa.

If 3 or 4 were the limit then the stamp would say sorry mate you've had you're lot so don't reapply. It doesn't. It asks for proof of income and residency when next applying.

None. But thats probably because most people applying for these visas can't prove their income and so go elsewhere.

Could you post the link to that report. I'd be interested to read it. But regardless one report or ten doesn't mean everyone will be denied. If the proof is inadequate they will deny the visa.

If 3 or 4 were the limit then the stamp would say sorry mate you've had you're lot so don't reapply. It doesn't. It asks for proof of income and residency when next applying.

Here you are http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/823134-proof-of-residence-financial-income-in-vientiane/

There were a case when Vientiane did actually said "sorry mate you've had you're lot so don't reapply."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/832416-third-tourist-visa-got-a-remark-in-my-passport/

And I have a feeling the new 6 months tourist visa won't be renewable like they did in India. It's no coincidence that they start saying "no more than 6 months"

Edited August 15, 201510 yr by Kitsune

When they give you that stamp are they asking for proof of financials from abroad or the 20000b?