webfact Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Suthep denies defaming red-shirt trioThe NationBANGKOK: -- FORMER deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban has told the Criminal Court he did not defame three red-shirt leaders or break electoral law in an election campaign interview in 2011.The Criminal Court Monday set October 26 as the date for consideration of written evidence from both sides.Suthep is accused of defaming Jatuporn Prompan, Nattawut Saikua and Weng Tojirakarn, who are also Pheu Thai Party members, by calling them terrorists and arsonists during the May 22, 2011, interview, thus also violating articles 53 and 137 of the electoral law.Suthep denies the charges. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Suthep-denies-defaming-red-shirt-trio-30266749.html -- The Nation 2015-08-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Aren't those the charges for which they are currently bailed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wow Suthep told the truth for once and now is being prosecuted for it. These guys were seen on stage inciting the redshirts to burn BKK down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wow Suthep told the truth for once and now is being prosecuted for it. These guys were seen on stage inciting the redshirts to burn BKK down. Just a part of red/Thaksin justice system, file complain when peole tell the true about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 How many times already, and more recently not the least from the Shins' side and that of their bunch of red criminals, such claims of 'defamation', to stop the truth of their actions being told...? Anyone not wearing bright red glasses who has been around, before, during(!), and after the (2009 already, and) 2010 insurrection(!) in Bangkok, and elsewhere(!) in the land, will IMO not one second deny the said three red leaders, among others(!), were indeed terrorists and arsonists! Or does one need to kill a soldier/civilian, or set shops ablaze, by oneself to be called so? Isn't it, when possible, even worse to incite crazed up violent mobs to do so, while hiding behind an MP, or such, position? While it has all been well documented, in sound and pictures! And still voiding jail time until today for what has been sentenced by the Courts already as cherry on the cake? There is the LM law, but these are other 'defamation' laws needing to be changed and reformed in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 In a small way I hope he is found guilty of defaming them as that would mean that he is correct in what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Doesn't really matter if they are what he said or not. Under Thailand stupid "defamation laws", you can be sued, even if you are right, for "damaging" that person's image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Defame (verb) - damage the good reputation of (someone); slander or libel. good reputation ?????? Well, case dismissed. He could not have possibly defamed the three amigos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I think any reason is a good excuse to charge Suthep. Let him scurry back to the temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wow Suthep told the truth for once and now is being prosecuted for it. These guys were seen on stage inciting the redshirts to burn BKK down. Just a part of red/Thaksin justice system, file complain when peole tell the true about them Actually, it's part of Thainess and if you knew anything about the defamation laws in Thailand you would know that the veracity of the claims have little bearing on the outcome of any defamation trial. They might very well be guilty of a lot more than Uncle Too's favourite monk has claimed but might still win the case. But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good rant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Suthep has done much worse than say 'bad things' about his political opponents... The defamation laws are a joke. For those with "pull", it's just another version of LM. (btw, I would be extremely surprised if the courts convict Suthep on this one... just sayin') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waitforusalso Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) I'm not clear; has he denied saying it or denied that it was defamation? If it is the latter, then he is innocent if a court finds them guilty of terrorism and guilty if not. Pretty straight forward case. Edited August 17, 2015 by waitforusalso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Suthep defames all civilisation by his mere existence. Edited August 17, 2015 by Reigntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wow Suthep told the truth for once and now is being prosecuted for it. These guys were seen on stage inciting the redshirts to burn BKK down. Just a part of red/Thaksin justice system, file complain when peole tell the true about them Actually, it's part of Thainess and if you knew anything about the defamation laws in Thailand you would know that the veracity of the claims have little bearing on the outcome of any defamation trial. They might very well be guilty of a lot more than Uncle Too's favourite monk has claimed but might still win the case. But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good rant! Defamation law the favorite tools of Thaksin he brought massive defamation suits against critical journalists when he was in power https://cpj.org/2006/06/thailand-acting-prime-minister-files-more-criminal.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wow Suthep told the truth for once and now is being prosecuted for it. These guys were seen on stage inciting the redshirts to burn BKK down. Just a part of red/Thaksin justice system, file complain when peole tell the true about them Actually, it's part of Thainess and if you knew anything about the defamation laws in Thailand you would know that the veracity of the claims have little bearing on the outcome of any defamation trial. They might very well be guilty of a lot more than Uncle Too's favourite monk has claimed but might still win the case. But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good rant! Defamation law the favorite tools of Thaksin he brought massive defamation suits against critical journalists when he was in power https://cpj.org/2006/06/thailand-acting-prime-minister-files-more-criminal.php He was copying that tactic from his then role model in Singapore. Ironically taking full advantage of laws designed to protect the rich, powerful and elite from any public exposure of things they'd rather not be exposed. He might be an immoral crook, but he's a clever one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Wow Suthep told the truth for once and now is being prosecuted for it. These guys were seen on stage inciting the redshirts to burn BKK down. Just a part of red/Thaksin justice system, file complain when peole tell the true about them Actually, it's part of Thainess and if you knew anything about the defamation laws in Thailand you would know that the veracity of the claims have little bearing on the outcome of any defamation trial. They might very well be guilty of a lot more than Uncle Too's favourite monk has claimed but might still win the case.But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good rant! Defamation law the favorite tools of Thaksin he brought massive defamation suits against critical journalists when he was in power https://cpj.org/2006/06/thailand-acting-prime-minister-files-more-criminal.php Yes, he is definitively the only one to have used them for his benefit in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Suthep has done much worse than say 'bad things' about his political opponents... The defamation laws are a joke. For those with "pull", it's just another version of LM. (btw, I would be extremely surprised if the courts convict Suthep on this one... just sayin') The 'worse thing' are totally irrelevant to the case here, even circumstantially. As such you seem to defame Suthep, imagine. Oh, by the way, are you in Thailand at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiKT Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Suthep has done much worse than say 'bad things' about his political opponents... The defamation laws are a joke. For those with "pull", it's just another version of LM. (btw, I would be extremely surprised if the courts convict Suthep on this one... just sayin') The 'worse thing' are totally irrelevant to the case here, even circumstantially. As such you seem to defame Suthep, imagine. Oh, by the way, are you in Thailand at the moment. Its impossible to defame a slimball like Suthep, there are no words bad enough. Roll your eyes at that . What the hell does it matter if he is in Thailand or not. Suthep is known world wide as a traitor and a murderer. Edited August 17, 2015 by MiKT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 POLITICSSuthep denies defaming red-shirt trioTHE NATIONSuthepBANGKOK: -- FORMER deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban has told the Criminal Court he did not defame three red-shirt leaders or break electoral law in an election campaign interview in 2011.The Criminal Court yesterday set October 26 as the date for consideration of written evidence from both sides.Suthep is accused of defaming Jatuporn Prompan, Nattawut Saikua and Weng Tojirakarn, who are also Pheu Thai Party members, by calling them terrorists and arsonists during the May 22, 2011, interview, thus also violating articles 53 and 137 of the electoral law.Suthep denies the charges.The court said time was needed to transcribe a video recording of the interview.Suthep told the court he was innocent and that the accusation came from a mix of different answers he gave to different reporters during the interview to make it appear he said those things.He requested the court continue the trial in his absence but said he would be represented by his |lawyer.The court granted the request, saying Suthep can be represented by his lawyer, but noted that maximum punishment is a prison term of no more than 10 years.Suthep left the court without speaking to reporters.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Suthep-denies-defaming-red-shirt-trio-30266794.html-- The Nation 2015-08-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 what is there to defame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Since when did being charged and bailed make someone guilty?They have not been found guilty so even in the west Suthep would be guilty of defamation. It would be much more believable if the was even a skerrick of evidence. It's possible Yingluk will give alibi evidence to clear them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Suthep has done much worse than say 'bad things' about his political opponents... The defamation laws are a joke. For those with "pull", it's just another version of LM. (btw, I would be extremely surprised if the courts convict Suthep on this one... just sayin') The 'worse thing' are totally irrelevant to the case here, even circumstantially. As such you seem to defame Suthep, imagine. Oh, by the way, are you in Thailand at the moment. Its impossible to defame a slimball like Suthep, there are no words bad enough. Roll your eyes at that . What the hell does it matter if he is in Thailand or not. Suthep is known world wide as a traitor and a murderer. Thank you for this splendid example of defamation. Calling someone a traitor and murderer without a shred of proof. Writing such in Thailand in Thai would have you charged already and not just because we have an appointed government. BTW I agree Suthep might not be the best example of a 'good' person, but that's a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Since when did being charged and bailed make someone guilty? They have not been found guilty so even in the west Suthep would be guilty of defamation. It would be much more believable if the was even a skerrick of evidence. It's possible Yingluk will give alibi evidence to clear them. You have already declared that you don't care what the yellows do because of the bogeyman in Dubai so why not just repeat that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 And lets not forget dear innocent Suthep threatening to kidnap Yingluck and her son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) And lets not forget dear innocent Suthep threatening to kidnap Yingluck and her son. How does that relate to defaming a red shirt trio or is there a link with the red shirt threat to kidnap Prayut's daughters, also way back in January 2014 ? Edited August 18, 2015 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Since when did being charged and bailed make someone guilty? They have not been found guilty so even in the west Suthep would be guilty of defamation. It would be much more believable if the was even a skerrick of evidence. It's possible Yingluk will give alibi evidence to clear them. You have already declared that you don't care what the yellows do because of the bogeyman in Dubai so why not just repeat that? Who jerked your chain? I certainly don't have any problems with ANYBODY telling the truth about Thaksin's mercenaries, or his perjuring sister. It would be nice though if the court case could get started, and the message that violence is not an acceptable political tool made clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Suthep has done much worse than say 'bad things' about his political opponents... The defamation laws are a joke. For those with "pull", it's just another version of LM. (btw, I would be extremely surprised if the courts convict Suthep on this one... just sayin') The 'worse thing' are totally irrelevant to the case here, even circumstantially. As such you seem to defame Suthep, imagine. Oh, by the way, are you in Thailand at the moment. Its impossible to defame a slimball like Suthep, there are no words bad enough. Roll your eyes at that . What the hell does it matter if he is in Thailand or not. Suthep is known world wide as a traitor and a murderer. Really? So he has been charged and found guilty of being a traitor and a murderer has he? That would be the only reason that he would be known world wide. Perhaps I have been asleep like Rip Van Winkle for the last few years but I don't remember that actually happening. Do you have any links, references, newspaper articles and the like to back up what you have said. If not perhaps it is only in your mind and in your opinion that he is guilty of those offenses. Of course saying what you have said without any proof of the allegations must be close to slander or libel, but don't worry, Suthep doesn't care about little people like you today, but one day perhaps he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) I think any reason is a good excuse to charge Suthep. Let him scurry back to the temple. this is a typical way how left-liberal fundamentalists deal with those who speak against them. and where are your sacred "freedom of speech" and "Law is above all"? lol Edited August 18, 2015 by TimmyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 @rubl. I was making a comment in regards to your junta loving brother robblok which included and I quote " These guys were seen on stage inciting the redshirts to burn BKK down." Now I ask you, what does that have to do with Suthep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I think any reason is a good excuse to charge Suthep. Let him scurry back to the temple. this is a typical way how left-liberal fundamentalists deal with those who speak against them. and where are your sacred "freedom of speech" and "Law is above all"? lol You give me too much credit. I just don't like the SOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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