webfact Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Prayut hints Thais should accept charter draftThe Nation BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has dropped a hint that he wanted Thais to accept the charter draft that the National Reform Council will vote on this Sunday.If the NRC votes to support the charter daft, a public referendum would be held soon."I have set the rules as if I am preparing this food for you to eat but you choose not to eat. If you want new food to eat, you can find it elsewhere,'' he said.He said the fate of the charter was not dependent on him giving an order but on Thais' vision for the country and whether they could learn to live together."Do you want to live amid political conflicts as before?'' he said."Have anyone said after an election is held, 'The country will be peaceful. There will not be protests, street massacres and bomb attacks?' Has anyone guaranteed elected governments can solve these problems,'' Prayut said.Prayut said the public had to be assured there would not be arm-wrestling during the administration of future elected governments."An elected government should answer the society how it can stop such incidents from repeating and what reforms it is planing to do. Do not quarrel over whether we should reject or accept the charter draft,'' he said.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Prayut-hints-Thais-should-accept-charter-draft-30268059.html-- The Nation 2015-09-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 This just keeps getting better and better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The people have the nonce to decide for themselves, they don't need the elite telling them what to do , the more the pressure the more they might just suspect something smells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfalds Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) "Do you want to live amid political conflicts as before? That side of the political divide really does believe, to their core, that political diversity equals political conflict. Eliminating one, eliminates the other, in their strongly held opinion. And maybe people will accept such a thing. As in Russia, historically they want a strong, dictatorial type ruler.....Putin plays to that image perfectly. Edited September 3, 2015 by Blackfalds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Isnt that the same as 2007. Just accept it and it can be changed / improved later. Fooled once, I can fool them again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 How about he stops telling people what they want. If they want political turmoil that is a matter for them. It is their choice, not his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy67 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Khaosod English 27 August 2015 In Run-Up to Charter Vote, Govt Forbids Campaigning I guess it depends on who is doing the campaigning. One rule for us and our kind and one rule for everyone else. Same as it ever was........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 They want the people to be sheep, but only to follow orders from certain colours of sheep dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What will happen if the public do not accept the new charter? No elections for many years to come i suppose? Anyway the military have always considered Thais to immature to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantan Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 A big tidy up isnt easy - without wish wellingtons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Perhaps if the army supported an elected premier, no matter which of the 70 parties they might come from, maybe, just maybe, there would be peace . Look at the man in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waitforusalso Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Even though it is a catch 22 situation, I hope the public send a strong signal & vote this atrocious constitution down. If they do, the pressure will mount on these military buffoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 If he had upheld the law under the previous democratically elected government he would have no need to be saying this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiwanatoa Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Let's see him make some REAL progress and finally get rid of this horrific Lese Majeste law. Fat chance. http://prachatai.org/english/node/5442?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+prachataienglish+%28Prachatai+in+English%29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Inscription 1 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The key point the unelected Prime Minister omits, of course, is that it is the elites and the military who select puppets like Sondhi and Suthep to do their bidding and stir up political trouble so that the army can move in and remove the democratically elected government. If things were on the up-and-up, the police would be able to arrest the puppets and their followers for breaking the law and disturbing the peace. But, alas and alack.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx22cb Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Is Prayut now Suthep's puppet? The previous day, Suthep said that people should vote for the charter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "If you want new food to eat" ... you can just just continue to do without your rights and liberties. How does that taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 When you are the Big D, what does ' hint ' mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Perhaps if the army supported an elected premier, no matter which of the 70 parties they might come from, maybe, just maybe, there would be peace . Look at the man in the mirror. The previous premier should have condemned the violence, recognized that her brother was, in large part, responsible for the police not doing their job in 2010, and called for martial law. Perhaps if she would have, the army would have quelled the terror campaign and she could have sent them back to the barracks by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praematura Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Lets face it he doesn't give a shit what the people want, this election is all about pacifying the West who is growing tired of asking when the election is happening. However, if this charter passes one can imagine the West not being fooled and still keeping its distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 My guess is that if the referendum is open and fair ( which I doubt ) the charter draft will go down like a lead balloon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovekorat Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I am not sure if it's just the general and his cohorts or whether this applies to all Thai people, but there seems to be a problem in differentiating between political differences of opinion and political turmoil. If a party or a group of people come out strongly against a policy and campaign against it, that is not political turmoil that is democracy. People allowed to have opinions and voicing those opinions. It doesn't mean the country is in turmoil. If the general thinks he is going to get every Thai in agreement with him he really is in cuckoo land. Political turmoil occurs when violence or subversive persuasion is used as an opposition. That has been the case here in the last of course, but people dealing in violence should be dealt with by the law and people still allowed opinions. The General has taken power ( not earned it) and expects everybody to think he's wonderful and agree with every utterance. Firstly not everyone thinks, or ever will think , he is wonderful and second proper democracy is accepting people will disagree with you and respecting their opinions and their right to take up an alternative position. He has got to learn to trust his people. Allow them the freedom to make their choices and then accept their decision without anymore military intervention, If he is doing a good job he will be elected. If he is viewed as a poor leader he will be out. Or maybe he cannot stand the thought of the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy chef 1 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 ...charter daft, a public referendum would be held soon. Charter DAFT...so far the best description.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Sign here! Don't ask questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Thailand's usurpers of power are now trying to hard sell their version in representation. Again, those who supported the junta should be ashamed. Nothing has been accomplished to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Dang Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 By any stretch of the imagination these are very threatening words. Offering peace through threats, that tells me a lot about what to expect. By the way of translation I think he is saying "You know your place in society, get back there and listen to your masters". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "If you want new food to eat" ... you can just just continue to do without your rights and liberties. How does that taste? Like Yingluk old crop rice I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 "If you want new food to eat" ... you can just just continue to do without your rights and liberties. How does that taste? Like Yingluk old crop rice I reckon. Which is worse? The rice scheme was idiotic but this seems far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Inscription 1 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Perhaps if the army supported an elected premier, no matter which of the 70 parties they might come from, maybe, just maybe, there would be peace . Look at the man in the mirror. The previous premier should have condemned the violence, recognized that her brother was, in large part, responsible for the police not doing their job in 2010, and called for martial law. Perhaps if she would have, the army would have quelled the terror campaign and she could have sent them back to the barracks by now. It did not matter what the elected Prime Minister wanted, it is the higher-up elites that count. The police will not arrest anyone, and the army will not quell people like Suthep, unless they get orders from the elites to do so. But people like Suthep and Sondhi act on behalf of the elites to stir up trouble, which leads to a military coup to rid the country of the pesky elected government that does things the elites do not want. It really is not difficult to see what is going on and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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