Jonathan Fairfield Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 UK academic Wyn Ellis released from Thai detention Wyn Ellis //Photo from : BBCThai BANGKOK:-- A British academic who was detained at a Thai airport over a dispute linked to a UN report he wrote nine years ago has been released. Agricultural consultant Wyn Ellis, from Swansea, was held at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport on Thursday and told he had been reported as a national security threat. He has been involved in a long-running row with a former Thai official. The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office said the situation is now resolved. Dr Ellis, who has been working with the UN on sustainable rice production, had believed he would be deported on Thursday after enduring what he called "obnoxious" conditions in an airport holding cell. Before his release, Dr Ellis had told a news agency that British Ambassador to Thailand Mark Kent had phoned him to say he was "trying to do something". Lawsuits His detention appeared to be connected to him being blacklisted after a dispute with Thailand's former director of the country's National Innovation Agency (NIA), Supachai Lorlowhakarn. Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-34177852 -- BBC 2015-09-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CelticBhoy Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Supachai Lorlowhakarn This name should be kept in the press until his face is so lost that it doesn't exist. Talk about a cheat and a poor loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Finally. Go home, mate. You are not safe here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Supachai Lorlowhakarn This name should be kept in the press until his face is so lost that it doesn't exist. Talk about a cheat and a poor loser. I wonder if this scumbag is on twitter. I'd love to tweet him to remind him he lost (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This should NOT be the end of it,,, Fairdinkum investigation on who had him black listed and why??? then send a message to all in the country if you try your s---t on and you know who I am crap then there will be consequence's, this has hurt Thailands imiage and reputation on an international scale and should be seriously investigated as this is blatant corruption, miss use of authority..................................... C'mon PM you say you will fight corruption, well then prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easybullet3 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Supachai Lorlowhakarn I wonder if this scumbag is on twitter. I'd love to tweet him to remind him he lost (again) Supachai Lorlowhakarn This name should be kept in the press until his face is so lost that it doesn't exist. Talk about a cheat and a poor loser. he has youtube, (though probably doesnt use it much) https://youtu.be/1mR4ir4MPpE i can see that Professor Wyn Ellis already commended out against him on under his youtube video a long time ago. and here is a great article about Plagarism in Thailand: http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/citylife-articles/copy-paste-enter-thailands-plagiarism-problem/ Edited September 8, 2015 by easybullet3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This story resonates and has legs because everyone, retiree, employee, business owner, knows that 'there but for the grace of God go I'....everyone is only one vindictive or litigious complianant away from being in similar circumstances.. Most foreigners in Thailand want certainty: assurances that there is safety, tenure, freedom from harassment. Sadly, from the perspective of the individuals ( as well as for Thailand itself), there is a vulnerability , not only from vindictive whack-jobs but also government policy which can change at any whim or fancy. This is a really bad news story for Dr Wym but also for Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Finally. Go home, mate. You are not safe here. I would say he is home as he is a Thai citizen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokfrog Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The sad thing we learn from this is that, even if a foreigner cares enough about Thailand to go through the hoops and become a citizen, he/she will still be treated as "second class" and doesn't seem to have any more rights than a tourist. Can someone please explain how a person who is a citizen of a country and holds a passport be "blacklisted" without some sort of court process and revocation of the passport? Only in Thailand !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Croker Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Option 1 - The Thai government realized the error of their ways and were going to release him after processing anyway. Option 2 - The Thai government caved under pressure of this obvious miscarriage of justice as it caused international headlines. Hmmm. Its a curly one? You know I'm really not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles45 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 "The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office said the situation is now resolved." No it isn't, not till the scumbag responsible, and we can probably guess who that is, is shamed and punished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorchiangmai Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Finally. Go home, mate. You are not safe here. I would say he is home as he is a Thai citizen Maybe he should have written ; you are not safe here any more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rykbanlor Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 And the cheat was originally allowed to graduate on a plagiarised paper, which really helps boost the country, and Chulalongkorn's image. No wonder Thai universities struglle to reach world rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Croker Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 'Ellis has had long-running legal battles with Supachai Lorlowhakarn, former head of the National Innovation Agency (NIA)' You just know Supachai wished the N in that title, was a C Hilariously his plan to keep this quiet has backfired and he is the butt of international jokes as well as disgracing Thailand. Good luck with saving face now Supachai, time to join a monastry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) It is so sad that it takes international embarrassment for the law and government to act here. All the hubs of this and that and really as so often shown that this country is often backwards and anything near what could be considered civilized. To bring happiness to the people start treating people with dignity and not false faced contempt. I agree with the other posters. This issue should far be from finished. The leaders of this country should stop these ridiculous things happening before they do. Thailand wanted to have a seat on the UN council. You are simply not ready by a long way. Edited September 8, 2015 by Laughing Gravy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Whatever was done and said about this incident, - my opinion: 1) Disclosure of plagiarism - is a threat to society... as it is today. 2) Leave, go home, ET - the truth is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The university should be revoking his/her degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 and revocation of the passport? Only in Thailand !!! No, not only in Thailand ; in France also and in many countries all over this world ; A passport does not belong to the person who has it but to the country that has issued it ; it's written on, generally on the last page. If your country decides to don't give you a passport or to revocate it; it can . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) This story resonates and has legs because everyone, retiree, employee, business owner, knows that 'there but for the grace of God go I'....everyone is only one vindictive or litigious complianant away from being in similar circumstances.. Most foreigners in Thailand want certainty: assurances that there is safety, tenure, freedom from harassment. Sadly, from the perspective of the individuals ( as well as for Thailand itself), there is a vulnerability , not only from vindictive whack-jobs but also government policy which can change at any whim or fancy. This is a really bad news story for Dr Wym but also for Thailand Bad news for Thailand? He was removed from an immigration blacklist he was put on in 2009. Imo this is good news for Thailand and the current government.99.99% of all foreigners visiting Thailand have no reason to feel uncertain here. Especially when they don't get involved in local affairs. Edited September 8, 2015 by Nickymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 And the cheat was originally allowed to graduate on a plagiarised paper, which really helps boost the country, and Chulalongkorn's image. No wonder Thai universities struglle to reach world rankings. Anyone who has been involved in teaching here will confirm plagiarism is rampant and accepted. There are many, many people with degrees, holding office, including in schools and unis, that never achieved the ' qualifications ' they claim. I once worked at a rural uni and a colleague had an assignment handed in that was copied word for word from a reference book but when he took the student to task the answer was to the effect " at least i handed something in ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The university should be revoking his/her degree. I believe that Chula has withdrawn his "Thesis" and therefore his doctorate or his attempt at gaining his doctorate http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20131031161316390 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandasloan Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) The sad thing we learn from this is that, even if a foreigner cares enough about Thailand to go through the hoops and become a citizen, he/she will still be treated as "second class" and doesn't seem to have any more rights than a tourist. Can someone please explain how a person who is a citizen of a country and holds a passport be "blacklisted" without some sort of court process and revocation of the passport? Only in Thailand !!! No, you are wrong. He lost his Thai passport so he used his UK passport, the one where he was blacklisted. He did not have his Thai passport or any proof of Thai citizenship with him. Pretty well every country in the world has blacklists that are made and maintained and enforced secretly. Actually, Thailand's immigration blacklist is relatively open and Mr Ellis could have found out he was blacklisted on his UK passport if he had asked. He is/was not blacklisted on his Thai passport, of course. Edited September 8, 2015 by wandasloan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaZa9 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I hope that the farangs of Thailand make it happen that , just as the name Somchai has become synonymous in Thailand with a Thai "average joe" , the name Supachai becomes representative of the character type that is low , conniving and deceitful in LOS Tell your friends , "Hey , that tuk tuk driver just tried a Supachai on me !" or , "I think its Supachai making my bin over there ,,," 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This story resonates and has legs because everyone, retiree, employee, business owner, knows that 'there but for the grace of God go I'....everyone is only one vindictive or litigious complianant away from being in similar circumstances.. Most foreigners in Thailand want certainty: assurances that there is safety, tenure, freedom from harassment. Sadly, from the perspective of the individuals ( as well as for Thailand itself), there is a vulnerability , not only from vindictive whack-jobs but also government policy which can change at any whim or fancy. This is a really bad news story for Dr Wym but also for Thailand Bad news for Thailand? He was removed from immigration blacklist he was put on in 2009. Imo this is good news for Thailand and the current government.99.99% of all foreigners visiting Thailand have no reason to feel uncertain here. Especially when they don't get involved in local affairs. ...he has been jailed for some days before he has been released... That doesn't make me feel particularly safe. But oh well, if that's your feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Looks like the charge for "anything" the government doesn't like is now called a "national security threat." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Good. Now I want Supachai to face justice otherwise he's just another elite that is above the law and I'll take the general's 'crack down' on corruption even less seriously more so than now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shavedPotter Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Very childish behavior on the part of the Thais involved in this. I don't need to read it all to know that behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Oh the Irony - The director of the National Innovation Agency in Thailand, is a plagiarizer. He clearly lacks the imagination to be innovative if he copies other peoples work!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This story resonates and has legs because everyone, retiree, employee, business owner, knows that 'there but for the grace of God go I'....everyone is only one vindictive or litigious complianant away from being in similar circumstances.. Most foreigners in Thailand want certainty: assurances that there is safety, tenure, freedom from harassment. Sadly, from the perspective of the individuals ( as well as for Thailand itself), there is a vulnerability , not only from vindictive whack-jobs but also government policy which can change at any whim or fancy. This is a really bad news story for Dr Wym but also for Thailand Bad news for Thailand? He was removed from immigration blacklist he was put on in 2009. Imo this is good news for Thailand and the current government.99.99% of all foreigners visiting Thailand have no reason to feel uncertain here. Especially when they don't get involved in local affairs. ...he has been jailed for some days before he has been released... That doesn't make me feel particularly safe. But oh well, if that's your feeling. I can't judge your personal situation but I feel very safe when going through immigration. I know for sure they have no reason to block my entry into Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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