webfact Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thai Murders: DNA 'Does Not Match' DefendantsKOH SAMUI: -- The trial of the men accused of killing two British backpackers hears DNA on the murder weapon does not match the defendants.A forensics team says DNA found on the murder weapon used in the killing of two British backpackers in Thailand does not match that of the two defendants.The bodies of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found on a beach on the holiday island of Koh Tao last September.Prosecutors say Miss Witheridge, 23, from Norfolk, had been raped and beaten. Mr Miller, 24, from Jersey, drowned in the sea after suffering head injuries.Burmese bar workers Zaw Lin and Wei Phyo, both 22, have pleaded not guilty.Full story: http://news.sky.com/story/1550571/thai-murders-dna-does-not-match-defendants-- skyNEWS 2015-09-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/642202002634743808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I guess there's not much to defend about the RTP disaster... Speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hereforgood Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So they should walk I would guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nev Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Let them go now, it is plain as day that these two Burmese lads are just scapegoats, the sad thing is the real killers are still out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthEnergiser Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Lack of Evidence, Local Media Coverage Adds to Mystery of Koh Tao Murder Last week, a partially blind Burmese beach cleaner told the court he spotted the garden hoe at the scene before police arrived, and returned the tool to its normal spot nearby. Upon police's request, he later retrieved the hoe, which he said he was unaware was covered in blood. “The garden hoe yielded no DNA traces and no fingerprints, according to police,” said the defendants’ lawyer, Nakhon Chompuchat. “But we think there should be something left.” http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1436774626&typecate=06§ion= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Let them go now, it is plain as day that these two Burmese lads are just scapegoats, the sad thing is the real killers are still out there. Agreed - with compensation ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007cableguy Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The RTP defenders will come along soon pleading a conspiracy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybuz Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 who would have thought,and here i was thinking it was a watertight case,silly me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/642202002634743808 Now, run, run, run for your life, Dr. Porthip,... the mafia is gonna witch hunt you now.... Edited September 11, 2015 by MaxLee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritzzz25 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I do think there are about 6 posters that need to eat some humble pie and admit that the witch hunt is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybuz Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Lack of Evidence, Local Media Coverage Adds to Mystery of Koh Tao Murder Last week, a partially blind Burmese beach cleaner told the court he spotted the garden hoe at the scene before police arrived, and returned the tool to its normal spot nearby. Upon police's request, he later retrieved the hoe, which he said he was unaware was covered in blood. “The garden hoe yielded no DNA traces and no fingerprints, according to police,” said the defendants’ lawyer, Nakhon Chompuchat. “But we think there should be something left.” http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1436774626&typecate=06§ion= how blind was he, sounds very convenient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The hoe probably held DNA from the beach cleaner/gardener. The other very likely was from whoever used the hoe to dismantle Hannah's head. Obviously, finding out who that DNA belongs to is very important. Also critical is finding out which other weapons were used. That does not mean the fantasy hammer (never found) or wine bottle (random glass fragments from beach never tested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I think Thailand would be better off just canceling this case now and let the defendants go. It just keeps getting worse and worse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsujin Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Can we please go back and get the Mafioso family that runs the island DNA tested now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamukloy Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Is it just me, or is this somewhat confusing? The DNA on the hoe would most likely be the victims,no? The article seems to insinuate there is unknown DNA on it, yet it doesnt go as far as to say the DNA doesnt belong to the victims either. It also doesnt state that the DNA was sourced from blood or otherwise Logic would have it, if the DNA wasnt blood based, it could be DNA from the gardener or anyone that used the hoe for gardening or whatever innocent purpose. But surely they would already have taken the DNA of the gardener to exclude from the evidence pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So they should walk I would guess Why should they? If the prosecution was using a DNA match between the two defendants and the murder weapon yes they should. But that's not what they are basing their case on, the DNA results could be from any other person that handled the hoe before or after the murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandchilli Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 We were expecting some breaking news from Dr Pornthip but this is more explosive than I thought, and we have still got to hear the other evidence from the UK! There's enough now to call a complete halt to these unjust and farcical proceedings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Is it just me, or is this somewhat confusing? The DNA on the hoe would most likely be the victims,no? The article seems to insinuate there is unknown DNA on it, yet it doesnt go as far as to say the DNA doesnt belong to the victims either. It also doesnt state that the DNA was sourced from blood or otherwise Logic would have it, if the DNA wasnt blood based, it could be DNA from the gardener or anyone that used the hoe for gardening or whatever innocent purpose. But surely they would already have taken the DNA of the gardener to exclude from the evidence pool? Nuance doesn't make good selling headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007cableguy Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Oh dear look who's here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandchilli Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 http://news.sky.com/story/1550571/thai-murders-dna-does-not-match-defendants http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/11/dna-weapon-not-match-men-accused-killing-british-tourists-thailand?CMP=share_btn_tw Disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandchilli Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Oh dear look who's here! I reckon the RTP have given up so somebodies got to bat for them I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) Is it just me, or is this somewhat confusing? The DNA on the hoe would most likely be the victims,no? The article seems to insinuate there is unknown DNA on it, yet it doesnt go as far as to say the DNA doesnt belong to the victims either. It also doesnt state that the DNA was sourced from blood or otherwise Logic would have it, if the DNA wasnt blood based, it could be DNA from the gardener or anyone that used the hoe for gardening or whatever innocent purpose. But surely they would already have taken the DNA of the gardener to exclude from the evidence pool? if you READ one report it said DNA of two males found on the hoe, neither of which were the defendants. One could be the gardener. I doubt anyone took his DNA. I would suggest that if either of the defendants DNA had handled the murder weapon, their DNA could also have been on it. Edited September 11, 2015 by stephenterry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amerasianex Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 They do not need evidence to convict them. The prisons are full of people who were convicted with no evidence.Its up to the defendants to prove they are innocent. Thats how this system works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 So they should walk I would guess Why should they? If the prosecution was using a DNA match between the two defendants and the murder weapon yes they should. But that's not what they are basing their case on, the DNA results could be from any other person that handled the hoe before or after the murders. One set of DNA is almost certainly from the beach cleaner/gardener. It is highly probable that the other is from the assailant who smashed Hannah's head in. It is clutching at straws to suggest otherwise. At any rate, it appears the "perfect investigation" using a magnifying glass to check for DNA, was not quite as effective as real forensic analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthEnergiser Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thai beach killings: Expert questions DNA evidence DNA from a garden hoe allegedly used to kill two British tourists on a Thai island does not match samples taken from two men accused of the killings, a court in the country has heard. Forensic expert Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand also criticised a failure to analyse blood found at the scene. David Miller, 24, from Jersey, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, from Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, were found dead on a beach on Koh Tao last September. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34217544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uty6543 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I think Thailand would be better off just canceling this case now and let the defendants go. It just keeps getting worse and worse....It was a good case until they changed the policeman in charge of the investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailandchilli Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 BBC have got it now to Thai beach killings: Expert questions DNA evidencehttp://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34217544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/642202002634743808 Now, run, run, run for your life, Dr. Porthip,... the mafia is gonna witch hunt you now.... Time to call up her body guard again she hired when another water tight case "investigated" by the cops popped like a bubble after her research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowin Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 It shows the world how bad the RTP are. But more importantly it shows the corruption that controls Thai society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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