illegal refugees in Europe and a legal thai wife ?

[marcofunny]

while reading some recent news it was announced that some European countries are offering 10 years legal residence to illegal asylum seekers from Syria with very generous welfare benefits and I am surprised about one issue because i have a closed friend who is currently married with a Thai woman they have been married since 2 years but his wife couldn't join him in Europe because she has been refused tourist visas several times this guy owns two apartments and has a very stable financial situation and his wife has been taken very intensive language classes to meet all strict requirements of visa application yet she has been refused the multiple times as for someone who crosses the border illegally he receives 10 years residence and 1000 euros monthly benefits with free housing ??? very weird government indeed.

and another weird case where a Ph.d Indian scholar needed very badly in a tech company this guy is offered free housing and a high paid job from one company yet his visa has been refused too ??? and was unable to join his company and it s been like that since almost a year ?

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[ubonjoe]

Moved to the home country forum since it suitable for either visa forum.

[oncearugge]

"some European countries are offering 10 years legal residence to illegal asylum seekers from Syria with very generous welfare benefits"

Which countries ?

Links to this important information please.

Thanks

[marcofunny]

"some European countries are offering 10 years legal residence to illegal asylum seekers from Syria with very generous welfare benefits"

Which countries ?

Links to this important information please.

Thanks

Belgium, France, Sweden and Germany.

[marcofunny]

Getting ones foot in is enough, I fink............

it s outrageous and scandalous I know a guy who has a child with a Laotian woman and he 's unable to bring his wife back home yeah this guy does not have a job but his mum and family has a very large house and are willing to sponsor her and her visa was rejected several times and then these illegals are given money and free housing ?

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[oncearugge]

"some European countries are offering 10 years legal residence to illegal asylum seekers from Syria with very generous welfare benefits"

Which countries ?

Links to this important information please.

Thanks

Belgium, France, Sweden and Germany.

If you say so !

Where are the links which support your claim of "10 years legal residence to illegal asylum seekers from Syria with very generous welfare benefits"

[marcofunny]

"some European countries are offering 10 years legal residence to illegal asylum seekers from Syria with very generous welfare benefits"

Which countries ?

Links to this important information please.

Thanks

Belgium, France, Sweden and Germany.

If you say so !

Where are the links which support your claim of "10 years legal residence to illegal asylum seekers from Syria with very generous welfare benefits"

this is 100% confirmed info Sweden grants automatic 10 yrs residence to Syrians and 7,000 Swedish krone every month while other countries gives temporary 1 or 2 yr visa while processing the application and monthly benefits for example the UK gives around 35 pound per week with free lodging in 3 star hotels for each illegal asylum seeker Belgium and France pays around 600-100 euro per month

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/01/18/uk-luxury-hotels-house-african-asylum-seekers/

http://www.ibtimes.com/syrian-iraqi-refugees-are-half-population-swedish-city-1619232

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-syrian-refugees-take-fast-track-to-new-life-in-sweden-2015-6

and hundreds of other articles

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[Sharp]

These 'friendly' countries are going to reap what they sow in the future!!!!

[brewsterbudgen]

The OP's close friend's wife isn't seeking asylum, so the situation is completely different.

Edited September 21, 2015 by brewsterbudgen

[marcofunny]

After paying all my dues in the UK I cannot retire in Syria, seems not on a list. BUT, Syrians can come to the UK and get everything, totally taken care of. I have no problem with that but why won't the UK take me into account when I paid what was asked of me for my old age.......

note that no wealthy Arab state has taken any refugees, Saudi Arabia and the UAE has one of the best accommodation infrastructure (hotels, condos etc..) in the middle east yet they received zero refugees , Kuwait went even farther by banning all Syrian citizens from entering its territory even those holding visas.

don't be surprised if I tell you I know an Eritrean family in the UK who got paid over 160,000£ of hotel bills and they never worked a single day, the euro politicians says there is a population decline yet legitimate national citizen does not have the right to bring in their lawful spouses or fiancees without a huge burden of complicated bureaucracy, some Somalian refugees families in Norway didn't work or had a job since 3 generations and even the father was polygamous and had multiple children with different woman as each child brings in extra cash from the state and that was story became famous as you can google it in youtube.

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[paz]

Germany actually has promised citizenship, not just residence.

And then a note. There is such thing as an "illegal asylum seeker". Seeking asylum is legal.

Now this thread will become the escape valve for many - go ahead.

Edited September 21, 2015 by paz

[stoneyboy]

The OP's close friend isn't seeking asylum, so the situation is completely different.

But still a wind up none the less wouldn't you agree.

[brewsterbudgen]

The OP's close friend isn't seeking asylum, so the situation is completely different.

But still a wind up none the less wouldn't you agree.

I agree that the government should relax the conditions under which citizens can bring their spouses to live in the UK, but I am pleased the government is finally doing something to relieve the plight of genuine asylum seekers. It's the least they should do. Edited September 21, 2015 by brewsterbudgen

[marcofunny]

Germany actually has promised citizenship, not just residence.

And then a note. There is such thing as an "illegal asylum seeker". Seeking asylum is legal.

Now this thread will become the escape valve for many - go ahead.

my former German boss could not get married with his Thai wife inside Germany and the reason given ? she had a student visa and he had to go through a very complicated bureaucracy and had to get married in Denmark and transfer that marriage to Germany which was a hilarious process which took 3 years to finish and then those illegals got residency within a week my brain is making a divide by zero bug !!!

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[dutchisaan]

After paying all my dues in the UK I cannot retire in Syria, seems not on a list. BUT, Syrians can come to the UK and get everything, totally taken care of. I have no problem with that but why won't the UK take me into account when I paid what was asked of me for my old age.......

Ofcourse you can retire in Syria.

The question is if you want!!

[marcofunny]

These 'friendly' countries are going to reap what they sow in the future!!!!

we are seeing the rewards now Sweden got the prize list of being listed as the 3th highest rate of rape in the world behind Botswana and south Africa ????

and according to a UN report Sweden to become a third world country by 2030.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[Pdaz]

Same sh*t.. Take the misuse to the UK for about the 6th or 7th visit. Tourist visa around 300 quid.. Even more if ( god help me ) we had to move back there.. Meanwhile half of the Worlds feckless is invited to stay and receive handouts.. The Syrian problem is real. Many are homeless, penniless and genuine reffos.. But WhyTF are all the Pakistanis, Iraqis, Afghans, Eritreans, Somalis etc being allowed in ? Call me dumb, but I though freedom of movement in Europe was for members of the EU? Not any tom,dick or Ahmed who happens to cross the border.. It is quite simply a religious invasion that will effectively breed out the white Anglo Saxon European ( and possibly the Latino/Slavic ones too ). Yes Western Europe needs people because of the declining birthdate but no need to turn it into a 14th century Islamic slum...

[marcofunny]

Same sh*t.. Take the misuse to the UK for about the 6th or 7th visit. Tourist visa around 300 quid.. Even more if ( god help me ) we had to move back there.. Meanwhile half of the Worlds feckless is invited to stay and receive handouts.. The Syrian problem is real. Many are homeless, penniless and genuine reffos.. But WhyTF are all the Pakistanis, Iraqis, Afghans, Eritreans, Somalis etc being allowed in ? Call me dumb, but I though freedom of movement in Europe was for members of the EU? Not any tom,dick or Ahmed who happens to cross the border.. It is quite simply a religious invasion that will effectively breed out the white Anglo Saxon European ( and possibly the Latino/Slavic ones too ). Yes Western Europe needs people because of the declining birthdate but no need to turn it into a 14th century Islamic slum...

one of the most shocking piece of news happened on this 9th of September in the french town of Saint-Pol-sur-Mer where an illegal HIV positive Eritrean asylum seeker waiting to cross to the UK tried to assault sexually a 10 years old girl !!! he was arrested and released after 1 day of detention and then he returned back to his free emergency shelter room funded by the taxpayer s money and this guy is still receiving allowance from the state ???

this piece of news has been hidden intentionally from mass media and was published by a french newspaper in the area

http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/region/saint-pol-sur-mer-il-tente-d-agresser-sexuellement-une-ia17b47618n3048323

this guy and others are waiting patiently in the french town of calais to cross over to the UK ?

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[Kasset Tak]

Sweden a country where:
you pay up to 65% in income tax.
convicts have better food than the children in school.

the pension is lowered because the government lack money.
it's easier for an immigrant to get welfare money from the government than it's for a Swedish person.

you can find "refugees" living on welfare driving a brand new Mercedes or BMW.

And still they will give the refugees 7000 kronor/month, that's 2000 more than my mother get on her government pension!

These are some of the reasons why I left and went to Thailand.

Edited September 21, 2015 by Kasset Tak

[MaeJoMTB]

Well, we all all hope for civil war in Thailand.

Then we can return home with our families as refugees, and get all the free goodies.

[marcofunny]

Sweden a country where:

you pay up to 65% in income tax.

convicts have better food than the children in school.

the pension is lowered because the government lack money.

it's easier for an immigrant to get welfare money from the government than it's for a Swedish person.

you can find "refugees" living on welfare driving a brand new Mercedes or BMW.

And still they will give the refugees 7000 kronor/month, that's 2000 more than my mother get on her government pension!

These are some of the reasons why I left and went to Thailand.

one shocking news is that story of a Somalian national who raped a dying woman in a garage in Stockholm and he was convicted over 40 times in criminal offenses and when they asked the judge why don't you deport him back she replied why the swedish women are better then the somalian women as if I deport him back he will continue raping the Somalian ??? and that story of another guy who raped a 12 yrs old and caused great physical injury and was sentenced to 21 days of communal works !!!

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[thehelmsman]

Sweden a country where:

you pay up to 65% in income tax.

convicts have better food than the children in school.

the pension is lowered because the government lack money.

it's easier for an immigrant to get welfare money from the government than it's for a Swedish person.

you can find "refugees" living on welfare driving a brand new Mercedes or BMW.

And still they will give the refugees 7000 kronor/month, that's 2000 more than my mother get on her government pension!

These are some of the reasons why I left and went to Thailand.

So our family left Denmark, immigrated to the US to escape socialism 65 yrs ago, to a place where if you worked hard you could have more. And now they're slowly dragging the US into the mess you all see us in today. Now if you work harder you have to give it all back to the gov. for all the welfare people.

[elliss]

Socialism, is the enemy of the working class. Work deserves reward . No work No pay .

Do away with all tax funded civil servants scroungers , and then ,

remove the social security handouts , which make the lame and lazy workshy ,

Free bennies attract the immigrants . for a cradle to grave, freebie lifestyle , sounds familiar in the UK .

Stop bennies , asap .. no immigrants .

The working man , is doomed , soon to become a extinct species . RIP.

[marcofunny]

Well, we all all hope for civil war in Thailand.

Then we can return home with our families as refugees, and get all the free goodies.

according to a recent article of the dailymail their reporter managed successfully to buy a Syrian passport, ID card and driving licence in Turkey under the name of a real man who was killed in the conflict all for 2,000$, he could use that to claim free welfare or launch a terrorist attack.

[marcofunny]

Stop bennies , asap .. no immigrants .

The rich Arab gulf states such as Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the UAE has extremely generous welfare system but it s exclusive to its citizens only even hospitals and clinics are separated one for expats and the others for the citizens, 90% of the population of UAE and Qatar are expats but they are supposed to work and once their contract finish they must leave the country immediately the fine for overstaying is very very harsh in the UAE, newly arrived or long term foreigners are not entitled for any sort of welfare benefits or public assistance, Qatar didn't even bother to sign the Geneva convention of 1951 and this country is ranked first in terms of GDP per capita in the world (wealthiest).

this mix of nationalistic and liberal policies proved very successful as those countries today are in the top 10 in terms of GDP yet I do not understand how someone crossing the border illegally via a mafia trafficking ring could get better benefits then a legal spouse or a family member of a legitimate citizen I don't understand why a Ph.d scholar or a wealthy tourist faces huge difficulty in obtaining his simple tourist visa while those illegals gets 2-5 yrs residency permits so easily, a town in northern France where some of its legitimate citizens are homeless and feeding from the trash bin of a nearby supermarket offered some refugees 80 sqm furnished apartments for free with payment bonuses every month !!!

Edited September 21, 2015 by marcofunny

[Sharp]

Like I said just wait and see how bad it's really going to get letting them in.....

[Sutty]

Recipe for disaster open the door to so called Syrian refugees IS said less than 7 months ago the would send fighters into every country to wreak havoc and spread there Islamic ideology. How ! Very easy in there words as these countries open there doors we will send in fighters pretending to be refugees.But do governments do anything to stop this NO course not that would not be PC would it. Then when not if when the shit hits the fan and the atrocities start it will be to late Rant Over. Please Thailand don't let any in.

Edited September 23, 2015 by Sutty

[i claudius]

After paying all my dues in the UK I cannot retire in Syria, seems not on a list. BUT, Syrians can come to the UK and get everything, totally taken care of. I have no problem with that but why won't the UK take me into account when I paid what was asked of me for my old age.......

Because it is now classed as a "benefit" as we have paid in for 40 odd years i cannot see how ,but then who cares about us ,out of sight out of mind .,much easier to give money to some rioting refuge carrying banners than you and i living quietly abroad .

[i claudius]

Like I said just wait and see how bad it's really going to get letting them in.....

Europe will die ,"not with a bang ,but with a whimper"

[sandyf]

After paying all my dues in the UK I cannot retire in Syria, seems not on a list. BUT, Syrians can come to the UK and get everything, totally taken care of. I have no problem with that but why won't the UK take me into account when I paid what was asked of me for my old age.......

Because it is now classed as a "benefit" as we have paid in for 40 odd years i cannot see how ,but then who cares about us ,out of sight out of mind .,much easier to give money to some rioting refuge carrying banners than you and i living quietly abroad .

Exactly. The UK government are hypocrites, they continually preach about family values but if your family are foreign nationals they have no value.