US: Multiple deaths in school shooting in Oregon State

[lostoday]

US prison pop, baby shooting mom, cop shoots self in leg; what does this stuff have to do with an anti Christian nut asking people if they were Christian and then killing them? If the guy really wanted a gun and they were not available in the USA he could go to Australia and buy one and sail back to Oregon with it. You think every boat docking in Oregon is adequately searched?

My point is how he got the gun has nothing to do with the murders.

He was most likely not anti christian but anti organised religion, if he had found muslims he most likely had killed them all.

And yes, easy access to guns makes these things happening more likely.

If he was most likely not anti Christian why did he ask, "are you Christian" and then killed the people who said yes?

He didn't ask if anyone was Muslim. The Muslims who killed the most Americans (Killed 3000) didn't have any guns so I fail to see the logic in your statement that access to guns makes it easier.

Edited October 4, 2015 by lostoday

[stevenl]

US prison pop, baby shooting mom, cop shoots self in leg; what does this stuff have to do with an anti Christian nut asking people if they were Christian and then killing them? If the guy really wanted a gun and they were not available in the USA he could go to Australia and buy one and sail back to Oregon with it. You think every boat docking in Oregon is adequately searched?

My point is how he got the gun has nothing to do with the murders.

He was most likely not anti christian but anti organised religion, if he had found muslims he most likely had killed them all.

And yes, easy access to guns makes these things happening more likely.

If he was most likely not anti Christian why did he ask, "are you Christian" and then killed the people who said yes?

He didn't ask if anyone was Muslim. The Muslims who killed the most Americans (Killed 3000) didn't have any guns so I fail to see the logic in your statement that access to guns makes it easier.

Because there were not any muslims around.

Just look at the stats and the number of gun deaths. He managed to buy a great number of guns, so yes, it was really easy for him to kill with guns, it would have been much more difficult to hijack an airplane and fly it into the school.

I'm glad you don't see any logic in my statement, with all logic and sense missing from yours it would be terrifying if you thought mine were logical. Somebody who thinks that easy access does not make things like this more likely to happen is deprived of any form of logical thinking.

Edited October 4, 2015 by stevenl

[lostoday]

He was most likely not anti christian but anti organised religion, if he had found muslims he most likely had killed them all.

And yes, easy access to guns makes these things happening more likely.

If he was most likely not anti Christian why did he ask, "are you Christian" and then killed the people who said yes?

He didn't ask if anyone was Muslim. The Muslims who killed the most Americans (Killed 3000) didn't have any guns so I fail to see the logic in your statement that access to guns makes it easier.

Because there were not any muslims around.

Just look at the stats and the number of gun deaths. He managed to buy a great number of guns, so yes, it was really easy for him to kill with guns, it would have been much more difficult to hijack an airplane and fly it into the school.

Muslims don't look any different than another American so impossible to tell if any Muslims around. It is easy to make a bomb that could kill hundreds in fact less expensive than buying the guns he had.

I look at the stats and guns have killed less Christians than swords. This was an anti Christian killing.

Woods then pointed out that President Obama's potential reaction had much to be desired: "Now that it is recognized that the terrible Oregon tragedy was an assault on Christians, will the President still sing Amazing Grace there?" Finally Woods tweeted a picture of the president with the comment: "Hate crime massacre of Christians finally silences Obama.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/james-woods-christian-hate/2015/10/03/id/694547/

Edited October 4, 2015 by lostoday

[Linky]

He was most likely not anti christian but anti organised religion, if he had found muslims he most likely had killed them all.

And yes, easy access to guns makes these things happening more likely.

If he was most likely not anti Christian why did he ask, "are you Christian" and then killed the people who said yes?

He didn't ask if anyone was Muslim. The Muslims who killed the most Americans (Killed 3000) didn't have any guns so I fail to see the logic in your statement that access to guns makes it easier.

Because there were not any muslims around.

Just look at the stats and the number of gun deaths. He managed to buy a great number of guns, so yes, it was really easy for him to kill with guns, it would have been much more difficult to hijack an airplane and fly it into the school.

Muslims don't look any different than another American so impossible to tell if any Muslims around. It is easy to make a bomb that could kill hundreds in fact less expensive than buying the guns he had.

I look at the stats and guns have killed less Christians than swords. This was an anti Christian killing.

Woods then pointed out that President Obama's potential reaction had much to be desired: "Now that it is recognized that the terrible Oregon tragedy was an assault on Christians, will the President still sing Amazing Grace there?" Finally Woods tweeted a picture of the president with the comment: "Hate crime massacre of Christians finally silences Obama.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/james-woods-christian-hate/2015/10/03/id/694547/

Your lack of comprehension is astounding. It was not an anti christian killing despite your attempts to clutch at any straw to make this a muslim thing.

The facts are that he was anti organised religion. Christians fall into that category, as do other religions.

Edited October 4, 2015 by Linky

[Jingthing]

There are new witness reports saying he said stuff like ... do you have religion (in general) as well as the Christian thing. He was being efficient in a heavily Christian area. Yes it seems he was going after any kind of believers but knew that most or even all who were in that area would be Christian. Trying to paint this guy as an Islamic Jihadist is just STUPID.

Edited October 4, 2015 by Jingthing

[kungpao]

These events are bad but nothing compared to the amount of people killed by drunk drivers. Not even close.

[lostoday]

Because there were not any muslims around.

Just look at the stats and the number of gun deaths. He managed to buy a great number of guns, so yes, it was really easy for him to kill with guns, it would have been much more difficult to hijack an airplane and fly it into the school.

Muslims don't look any different than another American so impossible to tell if any Muslims around. It is easy to make a bomb that could kill hundreds in fact less expensive than buying the guns he had.

I look at the stats and guns have killed less Christians than swords. This was an anti Christian killing.

Woods then pointed out that President Obama's potential reaction had much to be desired: "Now that it is recognized that the terrible Oregon tragedy was an assault on Christians, will the President still sing Amazing Grace there?" Finally Woods tweeted a picture of the president with the comment: "Hate crime massacre of Christians finally silences Obama.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/james-woods-christian-hate/2015/10/03/id/694547/

Your lack of comprehension is astounding. It was not an anti christian killing despite your attempts to clutch at any straw to make this a muslim thing.

The facts are that he was anti organised religion. Christians fall into that category, as do other religions.

Just because you can get away with insulting me is no reason to do so. He said "‘Are you a Christian?’ he would ask them, and ‘if you are a Christian then stand up’ and they would stand up. He’d say ‘because you are a Christian you’re going to see God in about one second’ and then he shot and killed them. And he kept going down the line doing this to people."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them

[Chicog]

I can't say much about the sources, but the general consensus is that he worshipped the devil.

But I think that's actually irrelevant, because it's fairly obvious that he was out of his gourd.

The Satan-obsessed gunman who singled out Christians during the deadly shooting spree at his Oregon community college left a hate-filled manifesto saying he would be “welcomed in Hell and embraced by the Devil.”

Just before Thursday’s attack at Umpqua Community College, Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, handed papers and a thumb drive to a person at the Roseburg campus, sources told ABC News Friday.

“He said he had no life,” one official told NBC News.“He felt the world was against him.”In the notes, Harper-Mercer, who was biracial, spewed hatred toward black men and society at large, the sources said.

A manifesto with “666” scrawled across it revealed his obsession with Satan, a source told People magazine.

The notes describe his desire to “serve darkness.”

Edited October 4, 2015 by Chicog

[lostoday]

There are new witness reports saying he said stuff like ... do you have religion (in general) as well as the Christian thing. He was being efficient in a heavily Christian area. Yes it seems he was going after any kind of believers but knew that most or even all who were in that area would be Christian. Trying to paint this guy as an Islamic Jihadist is just STUPID.

No reason to turn it into a flame (all caps STUPID) thread and have it closed just because it does not fit your ideas of a hate crime.

The gunman then entered the Snyder Hall classroom and told people to get on the floor, she told the Roseburg News-Review newspaper. He told people to stand up and state their religion before opening fire.

“‘Are you a Christian?’ he would ask them, and ‘if you are a Christian then stand up’ and they would stand up. He’d say ‘because you are a Christian you’re going to see God in about one second’ and then he shot and killed them. And he kept going down the line doing this to people."

"http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them

If after reading the above you don't know the guy was out to kill Christians I don't know what else to say.

[TuskegeeBen]

Ho hum.

The American mass shooting of the month club with obligatory Obama gun control plea that will go nowhere.

No, I'm not minimizing this tragedy for the people involved.

I'm just facing the reality that Americans are going to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent such events in future.

They really are like clockwork now and nothing is ever done as far as changing the gun crazy culture. Pathetic.

Now we will hear the predictable ... but guns are in the constitution. Yeah for a militia. Not for shooting up schools. only

Thank you for sharing that tid-bit of info. Do you have any new, alternative solutions to post to the forum? If so, then please do share that info, as well. I'd certainly appreciate it.

[thaibeachlovers]

So where is the militia now that all your freedoms have been eroded? You can't even grow tomatoes in your own garden in some states less they think you might be feeding yourself without paying money to the corporations. You cant dig a well on your own land for water. America has never had so many guns and Americans have never had so many restrictions on their freedoms. Americans have never been so suppressed or oppressed by their Governments as in the last 15 years.

Maybe, but America still has more freedoms than every other country on the planet.

Only if you have money can you enjoy your life, at least till Obama started trying to bring in socialist policies.

The freedom to live in a cardboard box and dumpster dive- no thanks.

[Jingthing]

Ho hum.

The American mass shooting of the month club with obligatory Obama gun control plea that will go nowhere.

No, I'm not minimizing this tragedy for the people involved.

I'm just facing the reality that Americans are going to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent such events in future.

They really are like clockwork now and nothing is ever done as far as changing the gun crazy culture. Pathetic.

Now we will hear the predictable ... but guns are in the constitution. Yeah for a militia. Not for shooting up schools. only

Thank you for sharing that tid-bit of info. Do you have any new, alternative solutions to post to the forum? If so, then please do share that info, as well. I'd certainly appreciate it.

Sure. Do what Australia did.

[lostoday]

Ho hum.

The American mass shooting of the month club with obligatory Obama gun control plea that will go nowhere.

No, I'm not minimizing this tragedy for the people involved.

I'm just facing the reality that Americans are going to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent such events in future.

They really are like clockwork now and nothing is ever done as far as changing the gun crazy culture. Pathetic.

Now we will hear the predictable ... but guns are in the constitution. Yeah for a militia. Not for shooting up schools. only

Thank you for sharing that tid-bit of info. Do you have any new, alternative solutions to post to the forum? If so, then please do share that info, as well. I'd certainly appreciate it.

Sure. Do what Australia did.

Why? Australia has more guns now than before the ban. And more crime. http://louderwithcrowder.com/australian-gun-ownership-rises-gun-crime-remains-low-america-still-at-fault/

[lostoday]

I can't say much about the sources, but the general consensus is that he worshipped the devil.

But I think that's actually irrelevant, because it's fairly obvious that he was out of his gourd.

The Satan-obsessed gunman who singled out Christians during the deadly shooting spree at his Oregon community college left a hate-filled manifesto saying he would be “welcomed in Hell and embraced by the Devil.”

Just before Thursday’s attack at Umpqua Community College, Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, handed papers and a thumb drive to a person at the Roseburg campus, sources told ABC News Friday.

“He said he had no life,” one official told NBC News.“He felt the world was against him.”In the notes, Harper-Mercer, who was biracial, spewed hatred toward black men and society at large, the sources said.

A manifesto with “666” scrawled across it revealed his obsession with Satan, a source told People magazine.

The notes describe his desire to “serve darkness.”

The source added Mercer writing, ‘I am going to die friendless, girlfriendless, and a virgin.’

Read more: http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer-manifesto/#ixzz3na1NIKd3

Need I say more?

[ravip]

What a pathetic state of affairs.

A serious 'state of mind' seems to exist.

Before any gun control laws, medical advice is more appropriate to heal the minds of the effected, which seems to be high on numbers.

The poor innocent kids... what make them deserve this?

RIP little ones.

[Andaman Al]

The only sensible way to do something has been stated over and over again by Chris Rock! He does have a point!

[uksomchai]

So where is the militia now that all your freedoms have been eroded? You can't even grow tomatoes in your own garden in some states less they think you might be feeding yourself without paying money to the corporations. You cant dig a well on your own land for water. America has never had so many guns and Americans have never had so many restrictions on their freedoms. Americans have never been so suppressed or oppressed by their Governments as in the last 15 years.

Maybe, but America still has more freedoms than every other country on the planet.

I forget the correct words but it goes something along the lines of

" There are no more oppressed people in the world than those that think they are free when they are not "

You were right in what you said up till 9/11 and after that there are third world dictatorships that have more freedoms than you now have friend. You just don't realise it yet Though when they make collecting rain water illegal you would think that might give you a clue you are not as free as you think?

Obama has made it clear he wants your guns and he means it and is ready for the fight to take them off you.

The question is are the people ready for it ?

[lostoday]

The only sensible way to do something has been stated over and over again by Chris Rock! He does have a point!

Deleted same old video on bullet control.

It is not difficult to make bullets. I started hand loading and making my own when I was 12 years old. So not rocket science

[Linky]

Because there were not any muslims around.

Just look at the stats and the number of gun deaths. He managed to buy a great number of guns, so yes, it was really easy for him to kill with guns, it would have been much more difficult to hijack an airplane and fly it into the school.

Muslims don't look any different than another American so impossible to tell if any Muslims around. It is easy to make a bomb that could kill hundreds in fact less expensive than buying the guns he had.

I look at the stats and guns have killed less Christians than swords. This was an anti Christian killing.

Woods then pointed out that President Obama's potential reaction had much to be desired: "Now that it is recognized that the terrible Oregon tragedy was an assault on Christians, will the President still sing Amazing Grace there?" Finally Woods tweeted a picture of the president with the comment: "Hate crime massacre of Christians finally silences Obama.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/james-woods-christian-hate/2015/10/03/id/694547/

Your lack of comprehension is astounding. It was not an anti christian killing despite your attempts to clutch at any straw to make this a muslim thing.

The facts are that he was anti organised religion. Christians fall into that category, as do other religions.

Just because you can get away with insulting me is no reason to do so. He said "Are you a Christian? he would ask them, and if you are a Christian then stand up and they would stand up. Hed say because you are a Christian youre going to see God in about one second and then he shot and killed them. And he kept going down the line doing this to people."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them

Proving you have no comprehension yet again. He hated all organised religions. Not only christians. The facts are staring you in the face but your bigotry in trying to tie this into it being a muslim issue is out for all to see.

[lostoday]

Your lack of comprehension is astounding. It was not an anti christian killing despite your attempts to clutch at any straw to make this a muslim thing.

The facts are that he was anti organised religion. Christians fall into that category, as do other religions.

Just because you can get away with insulting me is no reason to do so. He said "Are you a Christian? he would ask them, and if you are a Christian then stand up and they would stand up. Hed say because you are a Christian youre going to see God in about one second and then he shot and killed them. And he kept going down the line doing this to people."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them

Proving you have no comprehension yet again. He hated all organised religions. Not only christians. The facts are staring you in the face but your bigotry in trying to tie this into it being a muslim issue is out for all to see.

Members of what organized religion and only that religion were identified and killed by the shooter in Oregon?

[Linky]

Ho hum.

The American mass shooting of the month club with obligatory Obama gun control plea that will go nowhere.

No, I'm not minimizing this tragedy for the people involved.

I'm just facing the reality that Americans are going to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent such events in future.

They really are like clockwork now and nothing is ever done as far as changing the gun crazy culture. Pathetic.

Now we will hear the predictable ... but guns are in the constitution. Yeah for a militia. Not for shooting up schools. only

Thank you for sharing that tid-bit of info. Do you have any new, alternative solutions to post to the forum? If so, then please do share that info, as well. I'd certainly appreciate it.

Sure. Do what Australia did.

Why? Australia has more guns now than before the ban. And more crime. http://louderwithcrowder.com/australian-gun-ownership-rises-gun-crime-remains-low-america-still-at-fault/

Yes australia is crime ridden, guns everywhere, people are too afraid to venture out in public without an uzi by their side.

Dont go there. No really, dont go.

[MaeJoMTB]

Found this and thought it was appropriate!

[stevenl]

Your lack of comprehension is astounding. It was not an anti christian killing despite your attempts to clutch at any straw to make this a muslim thing.

The facts are that he was anti organised religion. Christians fall into that category, as do other religions.

Just because you can get away with insulting me is no reason to do so. He said "Are you a Christian? he would ask them, and if you are a Christian then stand up and they would stand up. Hed say because you are a Christian youre going to see God in about one second and then he shot and killed them. And he kept going down the line doing this to people."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them

Proving you have no comprehension yet again. He hated all organised religions. Not only christians. The facts are staring you in the face but your bigotry in trying to tie this into it being a muslim issue is out for all to see.

Members of what organized religion and only that religion were identified and killed by the shooter in Oregon?

Members of what organised religion were in that classroom?

[lostoday]

Just because you can get away with insulting me is no reason to do so. He said "Are you a Christian? he would ask them, and if you are a Christian then stand up and they would stand up. Hed say because you are a Christian youre going to see God in about one second and then he shot and killed them. And he kept going down the line doing this to people."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them

Proving you have no comprehension yet again. He hated all organised religions. Not only christians. The facts are staring you in the face but your bigotry in trying to tie this into it being a muslim issue is out for all to see.

Members of what organized religion and only that religion were identified and killed by the shooter in Oregon?

Members of what organised religion were in that classroom?

10 were wounded and not killed so perhaps 10 other religions. On the average

31.19% of the people in Oregon are religious, meaning they affiliate with a religion. 10.62% are Catholic; 3.92% are LDS; 6.48% are another Christian faith; 0.23% in Oregon, Oregon are Jewish; 0.61% are an eastern faith; 0.10% affiliates with Islam. The majority of the people in the classroom were not Christians. He only killed Christians. Not Muslims.

Edited October 4, 2015 by lostoday

[Linky]

Just because you can get away with insulting me is no reason to do so. He said "Are you a Christian? he would ask them, and if you are a Christian then stand up and they would stand up. Hed say because you are a Christian youre going to see God in about one second and then he shot and killed them. And he kept going down the line doing this to people."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/02/oregon-college-shooting-he-asked-are-you-christian-then-he-shot-and-killed-them

Proving you have no comprehension yet again. He hated all organised religions. Not only christians. The facts are staring you in the face but your bigotry in trying to tie this into it being a muslim issue is out for all to see.

Members of what organized religion and only that religion were identified and killed by the shooter in Oregon?

Members of what organised religion were in that classroom?

10 were wounded and not killed so perhaps 10 other religions. On the average

31.19% of the people in Oregon are religious, meaning they affiliate with a religion. 10.62% are Catholic; 3.92% are LDS; 6.48% are another Christian faith; 0.23% in Oregon, Oregon are Jewish; 0.61% are an eastern faith; 0.10% affiliates with Islam. The majority of the people in the classroom were not Christians. He only killed Christians. Not Muslims.

How many muslims were in the classroom?

[lostoday]

How many muslims were in the classroom?

I don't know. All I know is he didn't kill any. He only killed Christians. True or false?

[Linky]

How many muslims were in the classroom?

I don't know. All I know is he didn't kill any. He only killed Christians. True or false?

Ahahaha. You say he didnt kill any muslims yet dont even know if any where there. Thats priceless.

Hey he didnt kill any martians either so he only had it in for earthlings.

[lostoday]

How many muslims were in the classroom?

I don't know. All I know is he didn't kill any. He only killed Christians. True or false?

Ahahaha. You say he didnt kill any muslims yet dont even know if any where there. Thats priceless.

Hey he didnt kill any martians either so he only had it in for earthlings.

I don't share your humor at the killing of Christians. He asked the students if they were Christian and shot the Christians in the head killing them. Only Christians. Not Muslims or Jews or Buddhists. He only killed Christians. He didn't ask if the students were members of an organized religion. He only asked if they were Christians and then the shot the Christians in the head killing them.

[Seastallion]

How many muslims were in the classroom?

I don't know. All I know is he didn't kill any. He only killed Christians. True or false?

Ahahaha. You say he didnt kill any muslims yet dont even know if any where there. Thats priceless.

Hey he didnt kill any martians either so he only had it in for earthlings.

I don't share your humor at the killing of Christians. He asked the students if they were Christian and shot the Christians in the head killing them. Only Christians. Not Muslims or Jews or Buddhists. He only killed Christians. He didn't ask if the students were members of an organized religion. He only asked if they were Christians and then the shot the Christians in the head killing them.

I'm not sure that is correct, but lets go with it.

He had a thing against Christians. That does not make him a Muslim.

What relgion was the confederate flag guy that shot up the Christian church a few months ago?

Edited October 4, 2015 by Seastallion

[Linky]

How many muslims were in the classroom?

I don't know. All I know is he didn't kill any. He only killed Christians. True or false?

Ahahaha. You say he didnt kill any muslims yet dont even know if any where there. Thats priceless.

Hey he didnt kill any martians either so he only had it in for earthlings.

I don't share your humor at the killing of Christians. He asked the students if they were Christian and shot the Christians in the head killing them. Only Christians. Not Muslims or Jews or Buddhists. He only killed Christians. He didn't ask if the students were members of an organized religion. He only asked if they were Christians and then the shot the Christians in the head killing them.

The humour is from the twisted logic you try to explain.

How many buddhists or jews where there?

Its a bit hard to kill denominations that arent there.

But keep going.