sinbin Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Talking some of the guys that do this KCI will accept the fix amount account but will want to see what you live on. That could be as simple as an ATM slip on another local account or an account in your home country. No, they now want to see a Thai account with movement in a bank book. Edited October 3, 2015 by sinbin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Talking some of the guys that do this KCI will accept the fix amount account but will want to see what you live on. That could be as simple as an ATM slip on another local account or an account in your home country. No, they now want to see an account with movement in a bank book. Any given day and the IO one or the other. But they will not take a fixed account on its on. As for an embassy letter they also will not accept it by itself, they want to see what you are living on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbin Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 Talking some of the guys that do this KCI will accept the fix amount account but will want to see what you live on. That could be as simple as an ATM slip on another local account or an account in your home country. No, they now want to see an account with movement in a bank book. they will not take a fixed account on its on. Rubbish. They will and have done so for many a year. Nothing in the rules saying you can't have it permanently in a fixed account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Talking some of the guys that do this KCI will accept the fix amount account but will want to see what you live on. That could be as simple as an ATM slip on another local account or an account in your home country. No, they now want to see an account with movement in a bank book. they will not take a fixed account on its on. Rubbish. They will and have done so for many a year. Nothing in the rules saying you can't have it permanently in a fixed account You can tell them. For years? The new KCI has only been open from June 2012 Edited October 3, 2015 by khwaibah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbin Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) The old one was open 10 years ago. And when that closed I used 4 Korat offices over the years before ending up back at Kap Choeng albeit a different position. Never a problem til now. Edited October 3, 2015 by sinbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 The old one was open 10 years ago. And when that closed I used 4 Korat offices over the years before ending up back at Kap Choeng albeit a different position. Never a problem til now. Talking to some "old timer" they tell me that back in 2004 when KCI was located on your left before you enter town they required a TM 30 then,so some of these so called cavity search is nothing new for this location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksam Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Sinbin, think you will find money in fixed account is not accepted anywhere. Also don't imagine it's about movement. It's about having ready access to an amount of money they deem you can support yourself while on 12 extension of stay It is acceptable Jacksam as I've been doing it for nearly 10 years. And 'movement' is what it's all about as that what I was told by the officer. What I and my family live on is none of their business. I meet their requirements by having 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank. It doesn't mention I have to spend any of that 800,000. Fine. Don't move to bkk. Term deposit aka fixed bank account will not be accepted. Not sure what you mean by movement. If it's account activity ...no just need to see the money in account for required period. If movement is meaning where funds came from then that's only for first time non o visa. In Thailand need to show it came from farang world. If non imm o obtained outside then no requirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbin Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share Posted October 3, 2015 Not sure what you mean by movement. If it's account activity ...no just need to see the money in account for required period. Account activity is a bank book that shows transactions of money movement over the last 12 months, in and out.That is not in the rules laid down.When I went to KCI office last year my money, total 800,000, was in 2 separate accounts. Not against the rules. The officer reared up and accused me and my wife of playing games with him and threw my bank books on to the desk of the officer next to him. He then got up and walked out. The other officer processed my extension, No problem with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksam Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 That IO needs timeout in the Sinbin. Just a hissy fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessi Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The old one was open 10 years ago. And when that closed I used 4 Korat offices over the years before ending up back at Kap Choeng albeit a different position. Never a problem til now. Talking to some "old timer" they tell me that back in 2004 when KCI was located on your left before you enter town they required a TM 30 then,so some of these so called cavity search is nothing new for this location. khwaibah, you seem to be in the know. Why is the KCI office being so difficult to get on with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 went through this for a small mount of time at Phitsanulok, it turned out no superior Imm Off in the building to sign off the retirement extensions. It's back to normal now, all done on the day. I know a lot of elder ex-pats here who use the Embassy (UK) proof of income letter, often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand.. Plus they can ask anything they like, I live in an area famous for its roadside grilled chicken stalls, once asked "where's our chicken?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 went through this for a small mount of time at Phitsanulok, it turned out no superior Imm Off in the building to sign off the retirement extensions. It's back to normal now, all done on the day. I know a lot of elder ex-pats here who use the Embassy (UK) proof of income letter, often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand.. Plus they can ask anything they like, I live in an area famous for its roadside grilled chicken stalls, once asked "where's our chicken?". I know a lot of elder expats (embassy letter) and I don't know any who are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money. As that would be impossible because no one in Thailand gives receipts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eff1n2ret Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 From the forum: it also happens at Udon Thani. There have been reports from other sources of this happing at Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, Nong Khai, Amnat Charoen, Rayong, All Division 4 offices, 11 answers to Korat. Not true. Never happened for Retirement extension in Rayong. It did happen to me back in February this year at Rayong, the first time in 4 consecutive years of getting retirement extensions. I understand the reason was that at the time the officer authorised to sign off the applications was away. They phoned me after a couple of weeks to go back, and very quickly endorsed my passport (for a year from expiry of the previous extension), as well as doing the 90-day report which was not due for several weeks. So, no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not true. Never happened for Retirement extension in Rayong. It did happen to me back in February this year at Rayong, the first time in 4 consecutive years of getting retirement extensions. I understand the reason was that at the time the officer authorised to sign off the applications was away. They phoned me after a couple of weeks to go back, and very quickly endorsed my passport (for a year from expiry of the previous extension), as well as doing the 90-day report which was not due for several weeks. So, no big deal. What did they stamp on your passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eff1n2ret Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not true. Never happened for Retirement extension in Rayong. It did happen to me back in February this year at Rayong, the first time in 4 consecutive years of getting retirement extensions. I understand the reason was that at the time the officer authorised to sign off the applications was away. They phoned me after a couple of weeks to go back, and very quickly endorsed my passport (for a year from expiry of the previous extension), as well as doing the 90-day report which was not due for several weeks. So, no big deal. What did they stamp on your passport? I can't remember exactly, and I can't be bothered to get my passport out of the safe, but the '30-day' endorsement had some wording on the lines of 'retirement application under consideration'. The subsequent stamp renewing till Feb next year is exactly the same as previous extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbin Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 khwaibah, you seem to be in the know. Why is the KCI office being so difficult to get on with? Would you like to be posted to Kap Choeng Immigration office when you could be working at a more lucrative posting such as Pattaya? They have to vent their anger on someone. But the big question has to be. How did they end up getting posted to a one horse town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcwaterfall Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Some "minor" immigration offices must go through a review process for applications as they are in effect subsidiary offices of another immigration district office. Don't worry about the 30 day "review" process.... if you get the 30 day wait stamp, you are practically guaranteed to get your extension. It is just that the "boss" back in the corporate headquarters must approve the field offices' travel expense accounts for routine travel Edited October 4, 2015 by tlcwaterfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcwaterfall Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Some "minor" immigration offices must go through a review process for applications as they are in effect subsidiary offices of another immigration district office. Don't worry about the 30 day "review" process.... if you get the 30 day wait stamp, you are practically guaranteed to get your extension. It is just that the "boss" back in the corporate headquarters must approve the field offices' travel expense accounts for routine travel requests. Well this is the first under consideration stamp I have received at Kap Choeng for an extension. Even though the extension was approved by Korat I was grilled by the boss there for 20 minutes. He really had no idea about the current requirements for an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Some "minor" immigration offices must go through a review process for applications as they are in effect subsidiary offices of another immigration district office. Don't worry about the 30 day "review" process.... if you get the 30 day wait stamp, you are practically guaranteed to get your extension. It is just that the "boss" back in the corporate headquarters must approve the field offices' travel expense accounts for routine travel requests. Well this is the first under consideration stamp I have received at Kap Choeng for an extension. Even though the extension was approved by Korat I was grilled by the boss there for 20 minutes. He really had no idea about the current requirements for an extension. Marriage or retirement extension? If it was a retirement extension what did he ask you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 went through this for a small mount of time at Phitsanulok, it turned out no superior Imm Off in the building to sign off the retirement extensions. It's back to normal now, all done on the day. I know a lot of elder ex-pats here who use the Embassy (UK) proof of income letter, often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand.. Plus they can ask anything they like, I live in an area famous for its roadside grilled chicken stalls, once asked "where's our chicken?". I know a lot of elder expats (embassy letter) and I don't know any who are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money. As that would be impossible because no one in Thailand gives receipts. so you don't have ATM machines that churn out receipts when you draw out money on a UK credit or debit card. Or UK bank and credit card paper statements showing Thai transactions. IE shopping in Lotus. Strange!. That's what the Imm O's wanted to see, some frigging evidence of spending money in Thailand. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcwaterfall Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Some "minor" immigration offices must go through a review process for applications as they are in effect subsidiary offices of another immigration district office. Don't worry about the 30 day "review" process.... if you get the 30 day wait stamp, you are practically guaranteed to get your extension. It is just that the "boss" back in the corporate headquarters must approve the field offices' travel expense accounts for routine travel requests. Well this is the first under consideration stamp I have received at Kap Choeng for an extension. Even though the extension was approved by Korat I was grilled by the boss there for 20 minutes. He really had no idea about the current requirements for an extension. Marriage or retirement extension? If it was a retirement extension what did he ask you? Retirement extension. Was asking me where did my money come from? What investments do I have? Do I work in Thailand? Asked about the balance of my Thai bank account. One of his staff had to explain the rules to him. I had supplied a letter from my embassy stating my income which is over 65k baht per month. A fishing expedition or ignorance. Not sure which but probably both. Edited October 4, 2015 by tlcwaterfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 went through this for a small mount of time at Phitsanulok, it turned out no superior Imm Off in the building to sign off the retirement extensions. It's back to normal now, all done on the day. I know a lot of elder ex-pats here who use the Embassy (UK) proof of income letter, often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand.. Plus they can ask anything they like, I live in an area famous for its roadside grilled chicken stalls, once asked "where's our chicken?". I know a lot of elder expats (embassy letter) and I don't know any who are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money. As that would be impossible because no one in Thailand gives receipts. You don't have to show you actually spend the money. Just some king of proof you are bringing it into the country. A Thai bank book showing transfers into the country is the best proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 went through this for a small mount of time at Phitsanulok, it turned out no superior Imm Off in the building to sign off the retirement extensions. It's back to normal now, all done on the day. I know a lot of elder ex-pats here who use the Embassy (UK) proof of income letter, often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand.. Plus they can ask anything they like, I live in an area famous for its roadside grilled chicken stalls, once asked "where's our chicken?". I know a lot of elder expats (embassy letter) and I don't know any who are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money. As that would be impossible because no one in Thailand gives receipts. You don't have to show you actually spend the money. Just some king of proof you are bringing it into the country. A Thai bank book showing transfers into the country is the best proof. That's what I thought. I wonder why the above poster wrote, "often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand." Do you think he was making it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 went through this for a small mount of time at Phitsanulok, it turned out no superior Imm Off in the building to sign off the retirement extensions. It's back to normal now, all done on the day. I know a lot of elder ex-pats here who use the Embassy (UK) proof of income letter, often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand.. Plus they can ask anything they like, I live in an area famous for its roadside grilled chicken stalls, once asked "where's our chicken?". I know a lot of elder expats (embassy letter) and I don't know any who are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money. As that would be impossible because no one in Thailand gives receipts. You don't have to show you actually spend the money. Just some king of proof you are bringing it into the country. A Thai bank book showing transfers into the country is the best proof. That's what I thought. I wonder why the above poster wrote, "often they are asked to provide evidence of actually spending money in Thailand." Do you think he was making it up? I think he just used the wrong words. You have to bring the money into the country so you can spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbin Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 I think he just used the wrong words. You have to bring the money into the country so you can spend it. No you don't. That's the reason why immigration want to see bank books. They think your working illegally here. I have over 6 million in fixed saving in Thailand. Can they really be so stupid as to think I earned that secretly working as an English teacher or in the cassava fields? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Sinbin, think you will find money in fixed account is not accepted anywhere. Also don't imagine it's about movement. It's about having ready access to an amount of money they deem you can support yourself while on 12 extension of stay Since when has this changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not sure what you mean by movement. If it's account activity ...no just need to see the money in account for required period. Account activity is a bank book that shows transactions of money movement over the last 12 months, in and out.That is not in the rules laid down.When I went to KCI office last year my money, total 800,000, was in 2 separate accounts. Not against the rules. The officer reared up and accused me and my wife of playing games with him and threw my bank books on to the desk of the officer next to him. He then got up and walked out. The other officer processed my extension, No problem with her. 55,KCI told me last year i only needed 800k in fixed deposit,not 1.2 m.Showed activity in ordinary account but where not interested.Have heard they have toughened up,beer talk.Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Sinbin, think you will find money in fixed account is not accepted anywhere. Also don't imagine it's about movement. It's about having ready access to an amount of money they deem you can support yourself while on 12 extension of stay Since when has this changed. My banker at Bangkok Bank told me fixed accounts were fine for immigration. But what would he know? He only writes 20 letters a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 From the forum: it also happens at Udon Thani. There have been reports from other sources of this happing at Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, Nong Khai, Amnat Charoen, Rayong, All Division 4 offices, 11 answers to Korat. Not true. Never happened for Retirement extension in Rayong. It did happen to me back in February this year at Rayong, the first time in 4 consecutive years of getting retirement extensions. I understand the reason was that at the time the officer authorised to sign off the applications was away. They phoned me after a couple of weeks to go back, and very quickly endorsed my passport (for a year from expiry of the previous extension), as well as doing the 90-day report which was not due for several weeks. So, no big deal. The big deal for some is that they have to make an unnecessary trip,300 klm for on bloke i met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostoday Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 There have been reports from other sources of this happing at Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, Nong Khai, Amnat Charoen, Rayong, All Division 4 offices, 11 answers to Korat. Not true. Never happened for Retirement extension in Rayong. It did happen to me back in February this year at Rayong, the first time in 4 consecutive years of getting retirement extensions. I understand the reason was that at the time the officer authorised to sign off the applications was away. They phoned me after a couple of weeks to go back, and very quickly endorsed my passport (for a year from expiry of the previous extension), as well as doing the 90-day report which was not due for several weeks. So, no big deal. The big deal for some is that they have to make an unnecessary trip,300 klm for on bloke i met. 300 miles for Rayong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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