Photos of farang man begging at Suvarnabhumi airport go viral

soalbundy · October 5, 2015

"People commenting on the photographs questioned the motives of the unnamed foreigner"

Hmm? Lets see.

Motives?

He's thirsty and hungry...

Why has he run out of money ? Is he just scamming ?

soalbundy · October 5, 2015

Have no idea how they do this, i always thought a return tick was a must... Also, why not contact his embassy, friends, family....

I know my Gov doesn't care about its own citizens.. And more interested in foreign policy and diplomacy affairs and trading ..

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In addition to the services listed above we can also provide British Nationals in Thailand requiring emergency consular assistance:

provide information about transferring funds

help people with mental illness

offer support and help in a range of other cases, such as child protection and abductions in Thailand, kidnappings or someone who is missing abroadand how to make a missing persons report

provide consular assistance to British nationals who are victims of rape or serious sexual assault or any other serious crime

help in contacting your family or friends when you are not able to do yourself because you are ill or in hospital

provide advice following the death of a British national in Thailand, where possible we will try to notify the next of kin and offer practical support to the bereaved family on the next steps to take

make special arrangements in cases of terrorism, civil disturbances or natural disasters

offer support and information when a British national is detained or arrested in Thailand

What consulates cannot do for you
Although we try to help British nationals in a wide range of situations, we cannot:

get you out of prison, prevent the local authorities from deporting you after your prison sentence, or interfere in criminal or civil court proceedings

help you enter a country, for example, if you do not have a visa or your passport is not valid, as we cannot interfere in another country’s immigration policy or procedures

give you legal advice, investigate crimes or carry out searches for missing people, although we can give you details of people who may be able to help you in these cases

get you better treatment in hospital or prison than is given to local people

pay any bills or give you money

make travel arrangements for you, find you work, accommodation, or make business arrangements on your behalf

get involved in private disputes over property, employment, commercial or other matters

renew or replace a full British passport

Foreign Office condemned for failing Britons in need of help MPs attack ‘repeated failures of compassion’ and inadequate responses to detainees’ allegations of torture http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/23/foreign-office-condemned-failing-britons-need-help

What you also cannot do is answer E-MAILS even within the ridiculous time of 10 working days that you set yourself.

DogNo1 · October 5, 2015

I'm sure that mental illness factors into the situation of the foreign beggars. It would be nice if there were some kind of consultation service available for foreigners who have become indigent. It seems likely that most people would not like to become beggars.

NeverSure · October 5, 2015

What does someone have to do to himself to wind up with absolutely nowhere to turn in life?

I can think of ten people right now that I could call for a plane ticket if I was stranded.

This guy must have used up all of the people he ever met including family.

Where are his credit cards? Where are his friends?

He doesn't have any.

So now he'd like for you to be his next sucker. Then you'll be in his past and he'll be looking for someone else.

He's a user, and possibly in more way than one. Mental health professionals have a name for people who help him. They are called "enablers".

No one tied a rope around his neck and dragged him off to a foreign country with no plan B. He's not getting a dime out of me.

Cheers.

Shiver · October 5, 2015

If anyone knows his name or how to contact, please PM me I will buy his air ticket home.

I would chip in too, but I'd be miffed if it turned out to be a misguided act of being a 'do gooder' that made him just do the same thing elsewhere rather than it giving him a hand out.

Sometimes people hit a low spot (I know I have here), and a modest bit of help if used correctly can go a long way. Now I've pulled myself up by my own boot laces and am financially 'okay', I'm happy to help out others who hit similar situations, but I'm a sucker for a sob story and get upset when people take the p1*s', so need a handler to make a judgement better than I am able to do. What I've given away freely at the time (all farangs - a Thai never did it to me), in hindsight would have been much better spent on a condo or something, even if it was unsaleable and only worth 30% of what I paid).

Edited October 5, 2015 by Shiver

mamypoko · October 5, 2015

What does someone have to do to himself to wind up with absolutely nowhere to turn in life?

I can think of ten people right now that I could call for a plane ticket if I was stranded.

This guy must have used up all of the people he ever met including family.

Where are his credit cards? Where are his friends?

He doesn't have any.

So now he'd like for you to be his next sucker. Then you'll be in his past and he'll be looking for someone else.

He's a user, and possibly in more way than one. Mental health professionals have a name for people who help him. They are called "enablers".

No one tied a rope around his neck and dragged him off to a foreign country with no plan B. He's not getting a dime out of me.

Cheers.

Awesome! without knowing more that the post, you sure have him figured out and the would'be helpers/enablers, too.

Loosen up...your logic is too black and white.

samsensam · October 5, 2015

If anyone knows his name or how to contact, please PM me I will buy his air ticket home.

Nice effort but I doubt he wants a ticket home. Where is his luggage? If you do this, my friend, give him a non refundable ticket.

indeed. if he truly wanted to go home he would get his family and/or friends to send him the money (easy) and go to a travel agent and buy a ticket (easy) then go home. easy.

alternatively he would go to his embassy/consul who will assist him.

i believe there are more worthy beneficiaries of your generosity in thailand

PaPiPuPePo · October 5, 2015

Isn't that the lead singer from Dexys Midnight Runners?

Oh come on Irene, the resemblance is merely passing.....

Nick167 · October 5, 2015

Let the Imigration Dept be responsible for his ticket as its their fault for letting garbage into this country. When will the immigartion dept wake up and be more stringent about who they let in. What about making the criteria more stringent, ie background criminal checks, proof of return tickets, proof of funds, proof or relevant insurances etc etc

gandalf12 · October 5, 2015

I wonder why TV can post articles and write them in English until it comes to the word "foreigner" then they revert to the English spelling of the Thai word. For goodness sake try and be consistent. If you want to say foreigner say it, no one will be offended but please stop this rubbish of using English spelling of Thai words.

TacoHell · October 5, 2015

nobody has contacted me. we will pay this guys ticket home.

Thanks for deleting my phone number PM me.

Fabricus · October 5, 2015

What does someone have to do to himself to wind up with absolutely nowhere to turn in life?

I can think of ten people right now that I could call for a plane ticket if I was stranded.

This guy must have used up all of the people he ever met including family.

Where are his credit cards? Where are his friends?

He doesn't have any.

So now he'd like for you to be his next sucker. Then you'll be in his past and he'll be looking for someone else.

He's a user, and possibly in more way than one. Mental health professionals have a name for people who help him. They are called "enablers".

No one tied a rope around his neck and dragged him off to a foreign country with no plan B. He's not getting a dime out of me.

Cheers.

Oh for Christ's sake, don't you have anything better to do. You're pitiful.

Nicolas32 · October 5, 2015

Have no idea how they do this, i always thought a return tick was a must... Also, why not contact his embassy, friends, family....

I know my Gov doesn't care about its own citizens.. And more interested in foreign policy and diplomacy affairs and trading ..

How else we can help

In addition to the services listed above we can also provide British Nationals in Thailand requiring emergency consular assistance:

provide information about transferring funds

help people with mental illness

offer support and help in a range of other cases, such as child protection and abductions in Thailand, kidnappings or someone who is missing abroadand how to make a missing persons report

provide consular assistance to British nationals who are victims of rape or serious sexual assault or any other serious crime

help in contacting your family or friends when you are not able to do yourself because you are ill or in hospital

provide advice following the death of a British national in Thailand, where possible we will try to notify the next of kin and offer practical support to the bereaved family on the next steps to take

make special arrangements in cases of terrorism, civil disturbances or natural disasters

offer support and information when a British national is detained or arrested in Thailand

What consulates cannot do for you
Although we try to help British nationals in a wide range of situations, we cannot:

get you out of prison, prevent the local authorities from deporting you after your prison sentence, or interfere in criminal or civil court proceedings

help you enter a country, for example, if you do not have a visa or your passport is not valid, as we cannot interfere in another country’s immigration policy or procedures

give you legal advice, investigate crimes or carry out searches for missing people, although we can give you details of people who may be able to help you in these cases

get you better treatment in hospital or prison than is given to local people

pay any bills or give you money

make travel arrangements for you, find you work, accommodation, or make business arrangements on your behalf

get involved in private disputes over property, employment, commercial or other matters

renew or replace a full British passport

Foreign Office condemned for failing Britons in need of help MPs attack ‘repeated failures of compassion’ and inadequate responses to detainees’ allegations of torture http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/23/foreign-office-condemned-failing-britons-need-help

What you also cannot do is answer E-MAILS even within the ridiculous time of 10 working days that you set yourself.

I don't work for the embassy .. And it seems the don't give a crap these days the governments ... but charge ridiculous prices for a stamp after you done the paperwork for them ..

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NCC1701A · October 5, 2015

don't feed the park bears...

this is why planning and forethought is essential in Thailand.

I use a spreadsheet to project my cash flow forward for years into the future.

I know almost to the day when the bar girls will have all my money.

July 5, 2028.

gk10002000 · October 5, 2015

Have no idea how they do this, i always thought a return tick was a must... Also, why not contact his embassy, friends, family....

Return tickets are not necessarily mandatory. And even if one has a return ticket, the ticket use by date can expire. So even if he was willing to pay the itinerary change fee, he might not have that option and would have to get a new ticket

Nicolas32 · October 5, 2015

Have no idea how they do this, i always thought a return tick was a must... Also, why not contact his embassy, friends, family....

Return tickets are not necessarily mandatory. And even if one has a return ticket, the ticket use by date can expire. So even if he was willing to pay the itinerary change fee, he might not have that option and would have to get a new ticket

Never in my life been ask for a return ticket .. Mind you its going to cost in the region of 20,000 depends on what area of Spain he lives ..

In our daily life, we feel happy when someone smiles and treats us with affection. But if they frown we feel uncomfortable. This is a sign that we need friends. Friendship doesn’t depend on fame, money or physical strength. It’s based on trust and trust depends on love and affection. Therefore, love and affection are important if we are to live a happy life.

Edited October 5, 2015 by Nicolas32

NovaBlue05 · October 5, 2015

Some people try to pull scams. Other people simply don't quite think things through when traveling.

maprao · October 5, 2015

Let the Imigration Dept be responsible for his ticket as its their fault for letting garbage into this country. When will the immigartion dept wake up and be more stringent about who they let in. What about making the criteria more stringent, ie background criminal checks, proof of return tickets, proof of funds, proof or relevant insurances etc etc

You must be new to Thailand

Nicolas32 · October 5, 2015

Some people try to pull scams. Other people simply don't quite think things through when traveling.

True or get robbed or drugged or attacked by the lovely Thai People ..

NeverSure · October 5, 2015

What does someone have to do to himself to wind up with absolutely nowhere to turn in life?

I can think of ten people right now that I could call for a plane ticket if I was stranded.

This guy must have used up all of the people he ever met including family.

Where are his credit cards? Where are his friends?

He doesn't have any.

So now he'd like for you to be his next sucker. Then you'll be in his past and he'll be looking for someone else.

He's a user, and possibly in more way than one. Mental health professionals have a name for people who help him. They are called "enablers".

No one tied a rope around his neck and dragged him off to a foreign country with no plan B. He's not getting a dime out of me.

Cheers.

Oh for Christ's sake, don't you have anything better to do. You're pitiful.

Yep, I'm pitiful:

Due to life choices I've made.

I'm so pitiful I'm sitting in my own nice home looking out the window at my nice Ford F150 4x4 supercrew and,

I have money in my pocket, in the bank, and 5 credit cards in my pocket.

I'm so pitiful:

I can travel anywhere, any time I want and always have my home to return to.

My many friends trust me and would send me that plane ticket.

All of this as a result of choices I've made in life.

What kind of choices has this guy made that landed him where he is??

Cheers from a pitiful guy.

Nicolas32 · October 5, 2015

People will always have an opinion, but you have to live life the way you want to. It's very easy to tell others what to do, but difficult to implement it on yourself.

catman20 · October 5, 2015

I hope someone help that person ,im in the same situation here in thailand , and i feel him very well , so people stop judging him ,,,,,,,,,,

and why have you allowed yourself to get in this situation ???

catman20 · October 5, 2015

If anyone knows his name or how to contact, please PM me I will buy his air ticket home.

I would chip in too, but I'd be miffed if it turned out to be a misguided act of being a 'do gooder' that made him just do the same thing elsewhere rather than it giving him a hand out.

Sometimes people hit a low spot (I know I have here), and a modest bit of help if used correctly can go a long way. Now I've pulled myself up by my own boot laces and am financially 'okay', I'm happy to help out others who hit similar situations, but I'm a sucker for a sob story and get upset when people take the p1*s', so need a handler to make a judgement better than I am able to do. What I've given away freely at the time (all farangs - a Thai never did it to me), in hindsight would have been much better spent on a condo or something, even if it was unsaleable and only worth 30% of what I paid).

you know what they say about a fool and his money ???????????

Bluespunk · October 5, 2015

"People commenting on the photographs questioned the motives of the unnamed foreigner"

Hmm? Lets see.

Motives?

He's thirsty and hungry...

Why has he run out of money ? Is he just scamming ?

I suspect he has run out of money and is in need of food and drink.

Hence the sign.

Not much of a scam if that's what it is.

Bluespunk · October 5, 2015

If anyone knows his name or how to contact, please PM me I will buy his air ticket home.

I would chip in too, but I'd be miffed if it turned out to be a misguided act of being a 'do gooder' that made him just do the same thing elsewhere rather than it giving him a hand out.

Sometimes people hit a low spot (I know I have here), and a modest bit of help if used correctly can go a long way. Now I've pulled myself up by my own boot laces and am financially 'okay', I'm happy to help out others who hit similar situations, but I'm a sucker for a sob story and get upset when people take the p1*s', so need a handler to make a judgement better than I am able to do. What I've given away freely at the time (all farangs - a Thai never did it to me), in hindsight would have been much better spent on a condo or something, even if it was unsaleable and only worth 30% of what I paid).

you know what they say about a fool and his money ???????????

Is it:

If they're such a fool how did they get their money in the first place?

Edited October 5, 2015 by Bluespunk

jacko45k · October 6, 2015

I do hope they include the long line of mother and child foreign beggars that are equidistantly spaced along Pattaya 2nd Rd?

F4UCorsair · October 6, 2015

I see this both ways. Taco Hell wants to help, and I applaud that. I've done similarly in the past, and been let down, very badly, so I also see it as Never Sure does.

It's a difficult position for us observers, but I'd have to ask why this guy has found himself in this position, and I'd conclude that he's made some poor decisions.

Maybe he's pulled this stunt previously, and his former friends' goodwill has dried up. He should be seeing his embassy, and they've seen this a thousand times before. His bona fides, or otherwise, will be quickly established. That may be why he's not at his embassy?

geriatrickid · October 6, 2015

I wonder why TV can post articles and write them in English until it comes to the word "foreigner" then they revert to the English spelling of the Thai word. For goodness sake try and be consistent. If you want to say foreigner say it, no one will be offended but please stop this rubbish of using English spelling of Thai words.

You are being rather hairy at the heel. It is not unusual for one language to incorporate the words of another language.

Will you be attacking the French for their use of, Le weekend, cocktail, un best seller, le camping, sexy, le shopping etc.?

Will you be mounting a campaign and writing to the Sunday Times to alert the editors to the danger that the use of 100+ French words and expressions in common everyday English presents?

UK Labour politics would collapse without access to words such as nouveau riche or bourgeosie. How would proper gentleman address the manager of a preferred escort agency if unable to use the term Madame? I ask that you not be so gauche as to force the issue, as surely you can appreciate that we would be at an impasse without access to words from other languages.

55Jay · October 6, 2015

If anyone knows his name or how to contact, please PM me I will buy his air ticket home.

Just a couple weeks ago, you outted a farang in Phuket for begging, using his daughter (or some young girl) as a sympathy prop. You put him on ThaiVisa. How did you know his plight wasn't genuine and wanted to warn the world about him?

Now you are Mother Theresa for this random guy, who you've only seen a photo of?

What gives? Or has someone got your TV login and is having fun at your expense?

StefanBBK · October 6, 2015

If anyone knows his name or how to contact, please PM me I will buy his air ticket home.

If you are sure he is not a scammer and in honest need , PM me and I will chip in. Edited October 6, 2015 by StefanBBK

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