Is it possible to use an Australian Self Managed Super Annuation Fund with direct access to the funds totalling in excess of AUS$120,000 for a Retirement Visa ???

Cheers and thanks for any positive input

if you are applying in Australia you are obtaining an O/A. You provide a bank account with 800k baht. Or income stream.

If applying elsewhere outside Thailand you will need a thai handbook with that amount are most but not all consulates. But you would need to provide when applying for your extension of stay.

If your super fund provides an income stream to meet the monthly requirements then you could do stat dec at embassy say in bok to satisfy the income .

Also bring written proof from Australia just in case immigration asks for back up evidence when you do your extension

Edited October 21, 201510 yr by jacksam

You could use it to apply for OA long stay visa at the embassy in Canberra or the consulate in Sydney.

You could use it to apply for OA long stay visa at the embassy in Canberra or the consulate in Sydney.

Cheers UbonJoe,

I thought that was the case but needed to be 100% sure.

My mate will be back in Oz in two weeks time so I will advise him to apply for his Federal Police Clearance now so he will be up and running when he gets back.

Thanks again

I have no doubt ubonjoe advice is correct.

My post was based on email reply from Canberra embassy when I tried exact formulae. Having said that I had another email from them regarding need for having docs BOUND. That proved to be incorrect advice from the Canberra consulate. I know the OP only asked about the OA, but for future extensions the super fund won't cut it. Meaning available funds. If it's an income stream that's different.

I have no doubt ubonjoe advice is c1orrect.

My post was based on email reply from Canberra embassy when I tried exact formulae. Having said that I had another email from them regarding need for having docs BOUND. That proved to be incorrect advice from the Canberra consulate. I know the OP only asked about the OA, but for future extensions the super fund won't cut it. Meaning available funds. If it's an income stream that's different.

Thanks for the info Jacksam,

I actually hold an O A long term ME retirement visa which I obtained from Canberra embassy in June this year.

I was asking about the Super on behalf of a friend who wants to get his O A when he returns to OZ in a few weeks.

As far as the Binding of all documents goes I was told that it will be ok this time but very soon

(a few months I believe) a JPs signature will not be accepted nor will loose leaf applications & copies be accepted either.

In the future the signature needed, will come from a Notary and all page's will be bound by a Notary as well.

This information is on their webpage and the reason I know this is I queried them about it.

That will make getting the Visa much more expensive.

Check this link out to get an idea of the added cost if the Embassy does enforce it.

http://www.notarypublicmelbourne.com/notary-public-services/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwtaexBRCohZOAoOPL88oBEiQAr96eSGqk2bfW3sQLq9OKLdLzuflKZtjEWChiJEFPEUq8UpYaAmjf8P8HAQ

Trying to get information out of them was painful.

They kept trying to give me the bums rush by refering me back to the website.

I was also told that the O Visa to which I was first after would only ever be issued from the Canberra Embassy and of course only under special circumstances to which they would not expand on.

After finally getting the information I sort for the O A Visa I was informed by a politely spoken Thai man that if I really wanted an O Visa then get a Tourist Visa travel to Bangkok and apply for one at the Australian Embassy.

"But was also told that that information did not come from him"

Edited October 24, 201510 yr by Kangaloo

Thanks Kanga. As I stated earlier. UJ would be correct. My post was based on my actual personal experience some 12 months ago. I emailed with specific questions.

1. Do the docs need to be bound.

2. Can a JP certify.

3. Could I use my super fund (note I am at age where I have access to withdraw 100% of quite a lot)

There reply the next day.

Do not need docs BOUND Need money in bank or income per month.

My application was REJECTED. Reasons

1. Documents not bound.

2. Medical form did not have doctor stamp or stamp of clinic. Your friend might wish to take note of that point.

I rang Canberra as was bit cheesed off.

I was passed up the food chain and had this type of convo.

I was advised by email that docs were not required to be bound. Her reply.......they are needed to be bound as they are sent to bkk

Next iI asked why the website dies not state the medical needs a stamp. Her reply........anyone could just have signed it.

I mentioned JP being sufficient if I made another application. Her reply......'..some officers don't like the docs certified by a JP. For heaven's sake. .

Just some advice for your mate.

On a positive note, I did it by mail and the response time was very good.

Edited October 24, 201510 yr by jacksam

Question

What is the advantage of OA visa, rather than a O visa ???

Question

What is the advantage of OA visa, rather than a O visa ???

An O/A visa is multiple entry and provides for a one year stay which if the visa is correctly used can be "stretched" to allow a total length of stay approaching two years.

An "O" visa, based on retirement, provides a 90 day stay which must be extended if a longer stay is wanted. Financial requirements (800k Bht in a Thai bank or a verified monthly income of 65k Bht) must be met to secure the 12 month extension.

For some folk like myself the oa would have been nice. Reason being I leave and reenter los every couple of weeks on average. So with the non imm O , I had to obtain a multi entry permit for the 90 day initial then another fir the 12 month extension.

OP if your friend happens to have some problem with his O A, just be aware that as far as I know O is now not available in Australia. Since Brisbane closed its doors and Melbourne stop doing them based on retirement. Think only option then is to obtain your O at consulate in nearby country to Thailand . Simple process

I was also told that the O Visa to which I was first after would only ever be issued from the Canberra Embassy and of course only under special circumstances to which they would not expand on.

After finally getting the information I sort for the O A Visa I was informed by a politely spoken Thai man that if I really wanted an O Visa then get a Tourist Visa travel to Bangkok and apply for one at the Australian Embassy.

"But was also told that that information did not come from him"

P if your friend happens to have some problem with his O A, just be aware that as far as I know O is now not available in Australia. Since Brisbane closed its doors and Melbourne stop doing them based on retirement. Think only option then is to obtain your O at consulate in nearby country to Thailand . Simple process

I posted this last reply to you Jacksam

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Question

What is the advantage of OA visa, rather than a O visa ???

An O/A visa is multiple entry and provides for a one year stay which if the visa is correctly used can be "stretched" to allow a total length of stay approaching two years.

An "O" visa, based on retirement, provides a 90 day stay which must be extended if a longer stay is wanted. Financial requirements (800k Bht in a Thai bank or a verified monthly income of 65k Bht) must be met to secure the 12 month extension.

Please correct me if I am wrong,

But I believe an O/A visa for Australian resident's can be Multiple or Single Entry for up to one year stay,

It is generally known as a Retirement /Long Stay Visa,

The Financial requirement from Australia is to be able to show 800,000 Baht within an Australian Financial Institute or ,65,000 Baht income per month,

Every 90 Days you need to report to Immigration to be valid within the country for another 90 days,

The holder of an A/O Visa has access to a time window of two weeks before and one week after the actual report by date to report to Immigration,

Single Entry cost's AU$90 & Multiple Entry cost's AU$225,

If you have a Single Entry A/O Visa and you need to leave the country {Thailand} but you must first secure a Re-Entry Permit within Thailand, before you leave, to be able to Re-Enter Thailand to keep your Visa Valid,

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/doc/form/Visa%20Form%20A%20(Canberra)031014.pdf

AIso I do not think that an O Visa can be based on retirement as I was informed by Thai Immigration

"O" stands for "Other" {Other Than Tourist or Business},

An "O Visa" can also be a Single Entry or a Multiple Entry Visa,

Single Entry cost's AU$90 & Multiple Entry cost's AU$225,

The Financial requirement from Australia is to be able to show AU$10,000 within an Australian Financial Institute,

To be able to obtain an O Visa, there must be special circumstances/criteria that must be met,

e.g. "Executor of Estate", Natural Parent to a Thai Child" ...... ,

If travelling on a Multiple Entry O Visa then you must leave the country every 90 days which can be by Air or Road and you can return on the the same day to revalidate your visa for the next 90 days,

For the vast majority of au citizens a non imm o based on retirement will not be an option if applying in Australia. Applying elsewhere outside of Australia you will be issued a single entry non imm o. (As far as I know) . No problem if you need to travel. Just pay for a reentry permit . Single or multiple.

Question

What is the advantage of OA visa, rather than a O visa ???

An O/A visa is multiple entry and provides for a one year stay which if the visa is correctly used can be "stretched" to allow a total length of stay approaching two years.

An "O" visa, based on retirement, provides a 90 day stay which must be extended if a longer stay is wanted. Financial requirements (800k Bht in a Thai bank or a verified monthly income of 65k Bht) must be met to secure the 12 month extension.

Please correct me if I am wrong,

But I believe an O/A visa for Australian resident's can be Multiple or Single Entry for up to one year stay,

It is generally known as a Retirement /Long Stay Visa,

The Financial requirement from Australia is to be able to show 800,000 Baht within an Australian Financial Institute or ,65,000 Baht income per month,

Every 90 Days you need to report to Immigration to be valid within the country for another 90 days,

The holder of an A/O Visa has access to a time window of two weeks before and one week after the actual report by date to report to Immigration,

Single Entry cost's AU$90 & Multiple Entry cost's AU$225,

If you have a Single Entry A/O Visa and you need to leave the country {Thailand} but you must first secure a Re-Entry Permit within Thailand, before you leave, to be able to Re-Enter Thailand to keep your Visa Valid,

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/doc/form/Visa%20Form%20A%20(Canberra)031014.pdf

AIso I do not think that an O Visa can be based on retirement as I was informed by Thai Immigration

"O" stands for "Other" {Other Than Tourist or Business},

An "O Visa" can also be a Single Entry or a Multiple Entry Visa,

Single Entry cost's AU$90 & Multiple Entry cost's AU$225,

The Financial requirement from Australia is to be able to show AU$10,000 within an Australian Financial Institute,

To be able to obtain an O Visa, there must be special circumstances/criteria that must be met,

e.g. "Executor of Estate", Natural Parent to a Thai Child" ...... ,

If travelling on a Multiple Entry O Visa then you must leave the country every 90 days which can be by Air or Road and you can return on the the same day to revalidate your visa for the next 90 days,

Single entry O-A visas are no longer available/issued.

Question

What is the advantage of OA visa, rather than a O visa ???

An O/A visa is multiple entry and provides for a one year stay which if the visa is correctly used can be "stretched" to allow a total length of stay approaching two years.

An "O" visa, based on retirement, provides a 90 day stay which must be extended if a longer stay is wanted. Financial requirements (800k Bht in a Thai bank or a verified monthly income of 65k Bht) must be met to secure the 12 month extension.

Please correct me if I am wrong,

But I believe an O/A visa for Australian resident's can be Multiple or Single Entry for up to one year stay,

It is generally known as a Retirement /Long Stay Visa,

The Financial requirement from Australia is to be able to show 800,000 Baht within an Australian Financial Institute or ,65,000 Baht income per month,

Every 90 Days you need to report to Immigration to be valid within the country for another 90 days,

The holder of an A/O Visa has access to a time window of two weeks before and one week after the actual report by date to report to Immigration,

Single Entry cost's AU$90 & Multiple Entry cost's AU$225,

If you have a Single Entry A/O Visa and you need to leave the country {Thailand} but you must first secure a Re-Entry Permit within Thailand, before you leave, to be able to Re-Enter Thailand to keep your Visa Valid,

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/doc/form/Visa%20Form%20A%20(Canberra)031014.pdf

AIso I do not think that an O Visa can be based on retirement as I was informed by Thai Immigration

"O" stands for "Other" {Other Than Tourist or Business},

An "O Visa" can also be a Single Entry or a Multiple Entry Visa,

Single Entry cost's AU$90 & Multiple Entry cost's AU$225,

The Financial requirement from Australia is to be able to show AU$10,000 within an Australian Financial Institute,

To be able to obtain an O Visa, there must be special circumstances/criteria that must be met,

e.g. "Executor of Estate", Natural Parent to a Thai Child" ...... ,

If travelling on a Multiple Entry O Visa then you must leave the country every 90 days which can be by Air or Road and you can return on the the same day to revalidate your visa for the next 90 days,

Single entry O-A visas are no longer available/issued.

Do you why and when that came about,

As per the Canberra Thai Embassy it is still available - Form A

Never rely on consulates web sites. Some time ago I went to Melbourne thai consulate to obtain non imm O based on retirement. Was informed .." we no do them for long time." I said fine how about change your website that states you do provide them.

The reply.....not our problem. I kid you not.

Their website was updated some time later

Edited October 25, 201510 yr by jacksam

This Visa system that is in place here in Thailand, is I find, an absolute nightmarish shamozzle compared to that of Cambodias.

I cannot even start to fathom how it has evolved into this current confusing mess.

This Visa system that is in place here in Thailand, is I find, an absolute nightmarish shamozzle compared to that of Cambodias.

I cannot even start to fathom how it has evolved into this current confusing mess.

Thinking that post would receive a lot of LIKES. The added problem is all the info that this consulate does this and another does that. Don't go to that consulate as they are difficult. Etc