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Visa for foreigner child of foreigner woman married with thai man

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Which Visa would get the child?

Parents of the child... mother and father foreigner, divorced

Mother married with Thai man

The mother would get a Visa because of the marriage. But what about

the children?

How old is the child?

For how many days does the child wish to visit its mother?

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

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The child is 15 years and she lives with her mother the whole year in Thailand.

Before the child has the ED Visa for the international school but will finish it this year.

The child can get extension of stay as dependent under clause 2.20, police order No. 327/2557.

(4) In the case of children, adopted children, or spouse’s children, said children, adopted
children, or spouse’s children must not be married, must live with the alien as part of the
family, and must not be over 20 years of age except in case of the person hereof is of illness
or disability and cannot live without support of father or mother.

She should obtain a single entry "O" visa and then apply for an extension of stay based on dependency.

She will need copies of her passport birth certificate, Mothers passport and extension of stay together with copies of her step Fathers passport, ID and house-book.

Edit.

It may be worth asking the local immigration office if they will provide the extension without having to first obtain the "O" visa

Edited by oncearugge

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When the children are as a dependent on the foreigner mothers visa (without married to a thai man), the mother have to show

the 800,000 thb on a thai bank account.

Does she has to show it when she is married to a thai man, too?

PoorSucker... could you send me the link from where you copied it, please?

When the children are as a dependent on the foreigner mothers visa (without married to a thai man), the mother have to show

the 800,000 thb on a thai bank account.

Does she has to show it when she is married to a thai man, too?

PoorSucker... could you send me the link from where you copied it, please?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/749918-thai-immigration-issues-new-police-order-3272557-effective-august-29-2014/

When the children are as a dependent on the foreigner mothers visa (without married to a thai man), the mother have to show

the 800,000 thb on a thai bank account.

Does she has to show it when she is married to a thai man, too?

PoorSucker... could you send me the link from where you copied it, please?

An English translation of the rules about extensions of stay is here:

Police Order 327/2557 basis for extension of stay translated by Siam Translation for thaivisa.com

Immigration Bureau Order 138/2557 documents for extension of stay translated by Siam Translation for thaivisa.com

The girl's stepfather, and perhaps also the girl, may want to refer to the original Thai text;

Police Order 327/2557 Thai text

Immigration Bureau Order 138/2557 Thai text

If the girl's foreign mother is married to a Thai national, clause 2.18 of the rules cited above applies. Alternatively, and depending on the of extension of stay, if any, the mother has, clause 2.20 applies.

If the mother is not married to a Thai national, clause 2.20 applies.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

Regarding the child's mother, if she is not married to the Thai national to whom you initially referred to as her husband, the type of extension of stay she can get depends on her personal situation, ie age, employment, etc, as per Police Order 327/2557.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

Does she has to show it when she is married to a thai man, too?

A foreign man married to a Thai girl must show 400.000 in bank or 40.000 baht /month income.

A foreign woman married to a Thai man do not have to show any money.

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I am not sure....

In clause 2.18 it is mentioned "...(5) In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year...."

(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht 400,000 in a bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for one year

Who count as parents? The foreinger mother/foreigner father (divorced) or the foreigner mother/thai husband? If the thai husband would count as parent, could he show the annual income? Or does the foreigner mother have to show it?

Does she has to show it when she is married to a thai man, too?


A foreign man married to a Thai girl must show 400.000 in bank or 40.000 baht /month income.

A foreign woman married to a Thai man do not have to show any money.

In this case none of the parents can qualify for an extension of stay as a parent of Thai.

The mother can apply for an based upon marriage can get an based upon being married to a Thai man with no financial proof needed.

The child can then get an extension as under clause 2.20 (4).

"(4) In the case of children, adopted children, or spouse's children, said children, adopted children, or spouse's children must not be married, must live with the alien as part of the family, and must not be over 20 years of age except in case of the person hereof is of illness or disability and cannot live without support of father or mother"

I am not sure....

In clause 2.18 it is mentioned "...(5) In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year...."

(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht 400,000 in a bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for one year

Who count as parents? The foreinger mother/foreigner father (divorced) or the foreigner mother/thai husband? If the thai husband would count as parent, could he show the annual income? Or does the foreigner mother have to show it?

You are misunderstanding the legalese in the English translation of clause 2.18(5). For "In the case of parents...", read "Where the applicant for extension of stay is a parent..." and you will see that this clause does not apply to the child whose situation you described in the opening post of this topic, but that clause 2.20(4) applies.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

In clause 2.18 it is mentioned "...(5) In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year...."

Section (5) only applies to parents of a Thai Child.

If my wife dies or we get divorced, I can get extension under this section for taking care of my son.

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Aaaah... ok... so far I understand it... but...

2.20 (4) ? Why not 2.18 (4) ?

I am not sure....

In clause 2.18 it is mentioned "...(5) In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year...."
(6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht 400,000 in a bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for one year

Who count as parents? The foreinger mother/foreigner father (divorced) or the foreigner mother/thai husband? If the thai husband would count as parent, could he show the annual income? Or does the foreigner mother have to show it?


You are misunderstanding the legalese in the English translation of clause 2.18(5). For "In the case of parents...", read "Where the applicant for extension of stay is a parent..." and you will see that this clause does not apply to the child whose situation you described in the opening post of this topic, but that clause 2.20(4) applies.

Aaaah... ok... so far I understand it... but...

2.20 (4) ? Why not 2.18 (4) ?

2.18 (6) applies to you as married to a Thai national, there is no financial requirement for ladies.

2.20 (4) for your daughter as depended of you..

2.18 is only for family members of Thai nationals.

Aaaah... ok... so far I understand it... but...

2.20 (4) ? Why not 2.18 (4) ?

This puzzle can be solved once the girl's mother figures out whether or not she is married to the Thai man you mentioned in the OP. Please keep us posted on this aspect.

In the meantime, please refer to the information given in this post:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?/topic/865389-Visa-for-foreigner-child-of-foreigner-woman-married-with-thai-man#entry10002201

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

In order for a child to get the extension under clause 2.20 the parent would have to have an extension under one of the clauses listed in it.

"2.20 In the case of being a family member of an alien permitted a

temporary stay in the Kingdom under Criteria 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.5, 2.6,
2.7, 2.10, 2.12, 2.13, 2.14, 2.15, 2.16,
2.17, 2.21, 2.22, 2.26, or 2.29"
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The mother of the daughter is married to a Thai man

Aaaah... ok... so far I understand it... but...

2.20 (4) ? Why not 2.18 (4) ?

This puzzle can be solved once the girl's mother figures out whether or not she is married to the Thai man you mentioned in the OP. Please keep us posted on this aspect.

In the meantime, please refer to the information given in this post:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?/topic/865389-Visa-for-foreigner-child-of-foreigner-woman-married-with-thai-man#entry10002201
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These criterias wouldnt match for me, that was the reason why I didnt unterstand why it should be 2.20 and not 2.18....

In order for a child to get the extension under clause 2.20 the parent would have to have an extension under one of the clauses listed in it.

"2.20 In the case of being a family member of an alien permitted a

temporary stay in the Kingdom under Criteria 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, 2.5, 2.6,
2.7, 2.10, 2.12, 2.13, 2.14, 2.15, 2.16,
2.17, 2.21, 2.22, 2.26, or 2.29"

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