Many Thai sex workers say they are happy in their jobs

[robertson468]

The losers who don't have sex unless they buy it love this kind of crap. It lets them off the hook of being involved in destroying the soul of another human for the exchange of cash.

If you aren't in her first 100 customers, I doubt you would be responsible for any damage.

PS

I'm 60+, how would you suggest I have sex without paying for it?

Masturbate: added bonus no risk of STDs

[DrTuner]

The losers who don't have sex unless they buy it love this kind of crap. It lets them off the hook of being involved in destroying the soul of another human for the exchange of cash.

If you aren't in her first 100 customers, I doubt you would be responsible for any damage.

PS

I'm 60+, how would you suggest I have sex without paying for it?

Masturbate: added bonus no risk of STDs

I ain't 60 yet, but I can see how difficult the choice must be: to wank for the next 25 years or move to Thailand and pay to get laid. Difficult indeed.

[Skeptic7]

Thai girls are different. A refrain commonly heard from those justifying behaviour they wouldn't indulge in back home.

They certainly weigh less.

555...true, but not nearly as much less these days!

[stephenterry]

The losers who don't have sex unless they buy it love this kind of crap. It lets them off the hook of being involved in destroying the soul of another human for the exchange of cash.

If you aren't in her first 100 customers, I doubt you would be responsible for any damage.

PS

I'm 60+, how would you suggest I have sex without paying for it?

Masturbate: added bonus no risk of STDs

I ain't 60 yet, but I can see how difficult the choice must be: to wank for the next 25 years or move to Thailand and pay to get laid. Difficult indeed.

1k baht to boom boom. 500 baht for bar fine and 400 baht for room with bathroom in CM. If you're lucky girl stay until morning.

[Skeptic7]

Many Thai sex workers say they are happy in their jobs

This article is based on conversations with more than 20 active and former Thai sex workers held over a 6-month period…

The 21 I spoke with were unhappy and emotionally dysfunctional...

21 of 21???...not likely. Unless, perhaps, it speaks to whom was engaging them at the time, that made them seem so!

[smotherb]

I can't believe it took 7 pages for that hoary old chestnut of whoremonger wisdom to rear it's comically misguided head.

Who are you trying to kid? Every male pays for sex - it's just the currency of exchange which varies.

The losers who don't have sex unless they buy it love this kind of crap. It lets them off the hook of being involved in destroying the soul of another human for the exchange of cash.

If you aren't in her first 100 customers, I doubt you would be responsible for any damage.

PS

I'm 60+, how would you suggest I have sex without paying for it?

Just goes to show how naive the average person is. I have been in and out of Southeast Asia for 50 years. I have had three wives and several long-term girlfriends, Western and Asian alike. However, not one of them has been a lady of negotiable virtue.

Back in the day, when I was young and cleaned up rather well, I was the boy toy of the widow and former trophy bride of a wealthy Chinese-Filipino. She provided me with house, car, clothes and spending money. All I had to do was escort her when she wanted and service her when she needed. I would never get rich on what she gave, but the work was pleasant—she was a fit late 40's. However, I could not stay away from the sweet young college girls—they were so easy and so ripe. Well, as it happens, my benefactor came over to my house unexpectedly on several occasions and found young girls there. She demanded I stop seeing them. I guess I didn't want to. Finally, she kicked me out. So, for at least that period of time in my life, I did not pay for pussy--well, I paid in my time and precious bodily fluids, but I did not pay money.

My second wife was the CFO of a large plastics firm. She was a few years older than I, but for some reason, she wanted me around. I married her because I thought she was the best woman I had ever met—resourceful, intelligent, well-off, and not hard to look at. She made all my friends' wives look like cheap imitations. However, admiration and respect is not love. She wanted white picket-fence suburbia and I wanted to travel the globe. When we divorced, we split our assets 50-50—but my input to our assets was more like 30%. So, I guess the ledger book would have to say, I didn't pay for that either.

Nevertheless, I have to admit, sex does cost. You can pay money for it directly with a lady of negotiable virtue or indirectly with a girlfriend who has less than you; or pay with your time and integrity if the woman who has more than you.

Go on admit it you're a 25 year old English teacher with a big nose, called Nigel who never had a girlfriend in England but have a wild imagination.

Oh, yes, I am a 25 year old in my mind and check my spelling to see if you think I am English. Let's just say I am 25 years old with 45 years of experience at it. However, perhaps my age is telling. I forgot to mention two other long-term relationships which were of no additional cost to me.

My first wife and I were married in high school. Both of us had minimum wage jobs, had no assets and no kids; and were divorced without contest a year later. My first live-in girlfriend and I had a two year relationship. We both worked for the same bank, at the same pitiful salary, while we both attended American University. The women in these relationships were Americans, they occurred before I went to Southeast Asia, and both were of no extra expense to me.

My third and last wife has never made the money I have—my career was well under way when we met. Therefore, I imagine most of you will say this relationship has cost me. However, she has always worked and been a contributor to our marriage. Financially, she has a lucrative pension and social security; while I have only social security. The vast majority of our investments have come during our time together. She has always been supportive and does everything for me and our family. I would have no qualms about giving her half of everything we have if we were to separate.

I really feel for so many of you who have never had an equal relationship with a woman.

[cobbler]

Yep you can go to uni for free,same with highschool. Still have to buy books ect.

Did you read my post? it's two above yours.

Did you not understand me, or not believe me.

Or do you just post stuff you know nothing about?

What university do you think you can attend for free?

What about the 2/3 of students chucked out of highschool at age 15, who then have to pay to finish at vocational college?

Sorry mate. My wife just corrected me. 500 bart per term per subject is the government uni price. My apologies

[ldiablo]

Funny you can count to 227

Hahaha. You should quit your job as an alcoholic and take up being a comedian instead.

[MZurf]

The losers who don't have sex unless they buy it love this kind of crap. It lets them off the hook of being involved in destroying the soul of another human for the exchange of cash. Of course, to save face, some bargirls are going to say they like laying down with drunk obnoxious foreigners. In reality they're laughing at all the fools and praying that karma awards them the next time around for having to do this to support their families.

"It lets them off the hook of being involved in destroying the soul of another human for the exchange of cash"

In the West it seems the soul of a woman resides between her legs. In Thailand it's more of a commodity. Crude, but IMHO fairly accurate.

[Bezdomny]

Wife can be the most expensive prostitute in your life.

[eldragon]

The losers who don't have sex unless they buy it love this kind of crap. It lets them off the hook of being involved in destroying the soul of another human for the exchange of cash. Of course, to save face, some bargirls are going to say they like laying down with drunk obnoxious foreigners. In reality they're laughing at all the fools and praying that karma awards them the next time around for having to do this to support their families.

Some guys admittedly can't get laid without paying for it. So what are they supposed to do? Sex is up there with eating and paying taxes, mate.

And who are you or anyone else comment on what these girls do? Or why? I mean, let's just say there was a woman in the world who was totally adjusted and unphased by working in the sex industry? Does anyone have the right to say she can't take cash for a little time between her legs? Yes, we all know women can be damaged and exploited by the industry, but people die on the road every day. Does that mean we should take the cars away?

[jamie obda]

That makes me laugh. "Rejected by western women" western women are bigger,faster,stronger,smarter,better and most of all have more rights than western men. Ask the 5 separated fathers who suicide every day in asstralia. Regected by western women,who wants them can have them . And goooooooood luck lmfao

Western men more likely rejecting Western woman. In nearly all cases the odds are stacked against the former.

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[geriatrickid]

Where did you get your numbers on HIV rates at Patong? Doesn't surprise me, btw. I've read research that indicates 90% of the Thai women that have HIV do not tell their partners, or bosses, customers, etc. if they're sex workers. It also said most of those women do not use protection with their partners.

UN Aids GAP Report (2014), WHO annual assessment publications 2012-2014. Multiple academic reports and from discussions with public health researchers. I'll go one step further and state that I saw it first hand in Patong. What surprised me was how many had died within a 5 year period. (Inadequate.)

If one looks at the younger segment of sex trade workers and their demographic characteristics of lower intelligence and limited education it explains in large part why some are considered "happy". In plain language, many of the sex workers are mentally impaired and exist in a different mental reality than the rest of the population. Happiness to them is delaying the pain of yaba withdrawal, or in having somewhere to stay or a replacement family or in having someone care for them.

It is quite something to read the justifications in this thread from the males who have sexual relations with defacto mentally retarded people. True, not all sex workers are mentally deficient, but It is quite obvious that many are, and yet there are clients who seek them out, exploiting their vulnerabilities. People with above average IQs or job skills or an education are not typically going to seek out sex trade work. It is a job sector that attracts people with impaired cognitive skills, drug addictions, psychological issues and mental illness and debt. Happiness for these people is different for them compared to the young woman who is working as a bank teller or the male who is working at Tesco.

[eldragon]

Where did you get your numbers on HIV rates at Patong? Doesn't surprise me, btw. I've read research that indicates 90% of the Thai women that have HIV do not tell their partners, or bosses, customers, etc. if they're sex workers. It also said most of those women do not use protection with their partners.

UN Aids GAP Report (2014), WHO annual assessment publications 2012-2014. Multiple academic reports and from discussions with public health researchers. I'll go one step further and state that I saw it first hand in Patong. What surprised me was how many had died within a 5 year period. (Inadequate.)

If one looks at the younger segment of sex trade workers and their demographic characteristics of lower intelligence and limited education it explains in large part why some are considered "happy". In plain language, many of the sex workers are mentally impaired and exist in a different mental reality than the rest of the population. Happiness to them is delaying the pain of yaba withdrawal, or in having somewhere to stay or a replacement family or in having someone care for them.

It is quite something to read the justifications in this thread from the males who have sexual relations with defacto mentally retarded people. True, not all sex workers are mentally deficient, but It is quite obvious that many are, and yet there are clients who seek them out, exploiting their vulnerabilities. People with above average IQs or job skills or an education are not typically going to seek out sex trade work. It is a job sector that attracts people with impaired cognitive skills, drug addictions, psychological issues and mental illness and debt. Happiness for these people is different for them compared to the young woman who is working as a bank teller or the male who is working at Tesco.

Fair points, mate. You put it a bit harsh, but I see what you're getting at. That being said, I've had better conversations with many of the sex workers I've met here than I do with most of the educated Thais I know. But I also know the ones that hang around foreigners reflect a very small percentage of the ones in the industry, so I can't really comment on them as a whole.

[Sawan Chan 7]

Wife can be the most expensive prostitute in your life.

They should have an IQ test before giving membership to some.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

This thread has a lot of examples of what I refer to as " Western values evaluating Asian culture".

These girls are not "selling their souls", they are just selling their time.

In my home countries, most women who have sex for money are drug addicts who are not fit for any other work and have no choice...it is sad.

Here it is a viable career choice and a girl who is wise and careful can do well.

Unlike the west, here family and friends know how they earn their income and do not look down on them for it...it is a job,

they are providing a service for an income.

They are not doing it just to pay for their next drug fix.

If she is wise enough to be careful to protect herself from STDs and abusive men, she is pretty safe.

I can see that if you are young and into partying with friends, it can be a very enjoyable life style.

If they wisely manage and invest the money they earn, they can provided a much better life and future for themselves and their family than they could ever do working on a farm or in a factory.

I know girls ( not as a customer, but as a friend ) who have purchased houses, farms, trucks and tractors for their families and are looking at a pretty decent life when they get older.

And..they only work a few months per year.

This is Thailand, not New York or L.A. and there is a huge difference.

I gotta say. I have never met more delusional men than on this very forum. The above post is a perfect example. Prostitution was never a career choice for anyone. I understand people justifying their actions in Thailand, but I don't understand the mass delusion.

[Guy360]

All the guys here who state use a web site get it for free,or I never pay Blah Blah Blah. So who's hurting the most women? I feel the ones sleeping with women with no intent to take it beyond the free sex level is abusing women. When a man gets it for free may be the woman is looking for more in the relationship when she doesnot get it she is hurt. Thai men pride themselves on using women and deserting them,its all free is that a good thing? who gets hurt there? If they left the non working girls alone till they wanted a true relationship there would be a lot fewer single mothers. and less children with no father. Pay for play girls are angels of mercy perhaps,if men would balls up and understand stop lieing and misleading women into free sex maybe the world would have less problems with single parent homes and fatherless children.

First of all, nothing is free. Certainly having sex with a consenting woman isn't free either. You are judging Thai women by Western women standards. Western women make it appear that they are doing the man a favor for having sex with them. Ever pick up a girl in a bar in your home country? Ever go out on a first date with a woman in your home country and wind up in bed that night? Did you pay her? Did she ask for money? Western women go out to bars and clubs to meet men and yes, to even get laid that night...although they make if seem as though they are doing the man a favor by letting him screw her.

Thai women, like most women, enjoy sex when they are with a man they believe they are attracted to. In addition, most Asian women consider sex as a natural act and don't consider it as doing a man a favor.

As for the pay for play girls, this is the business they chose to be in. It is a business and they expect to get paid for their services. Thai ladies have the uncanny ability to compartmentalize. Business is business. But when they aren't conducting their business, they can have perfectly normal relationships with whomever the choose to have it with.

[SoiBiker]

Western women make it appear that they are doing the man a favor for having sex with them.

To you maybe it seems that way. Some people do a little better than the occasional pity f***.

[Guy360]

I doubt there is a hardened hussy in the land who would admit to enjoying making the 'beast with two backs' with any of those flabby, hairy,

sweaty, smelly patrons of Nana or Cowboy, most of whom would be at least as old as her grandfather.

The "Hussy" has a choice whether to go or not go with Quasimodo. Business is also business. Attorneys defend guilty, scumbag clients and do their best to get them off. (pun intended). The ability of your "hussey" to do what she does comes from her ability to compartmentalize. The total ability to separate her business from her personal feelings.

[NCFC]

This thread has a lot of examples of what I refer to as " Western values evaluating Asian culture".

These girls are not "selling their souls", they are just selling their time.

In my home countries, most women who have sex for money are drug addicts who are not fit for any other work and have no choice...it is sad.

Here it is a viable career choice and a girl who is wise and careful can do well.

Unlike the west, here family and friends know how they earn their income and do not look down on them for it...it is a job,

they are providing a service for an income.

They are not doing it just to pay for their next drug fix.

If she is wise enough to be careful to protect herself from STDs and abusive men, she is pretty safe.

I can see that if you are young and into partying with friends, it can be a very enjoyable life style.

If they wisely manage and invest the money they earn, they can provided a much better life and future for themselves and their family than they could ever do working on a farm or in a factory.

I know girls ( not as a customer, but as a friend ) who have purchased houses, farms, trucks and tractors for their families and are looking at a pretty decent life when they get older.

And..they only work a few months per year.

This is Thailand, not New York or L.A. and there is a huge difference.

Prostitution was never a career choice for anyone.

Nor was Accountancy, but a whole bunch of people do it.

[cyberfarang]

Like many things that used to be taboo in society, prostitution is becoming acceptable.

These days women are actually being encouraged to work as prostitutes, not only in Thailand, also in the UK. In the UK jobs as escorts have been advertised in the job centres, newspapers, webcam companies and escort websites both here and in the UK openly advertise for staff. Women are being told if they want to succeed in life, then why not take on sugar daddies or go on the game, it`s easy money, better and more prosperous then working in a 7/eleven or an office. Thousands of female students in Thailand and elsewhere sell sexual services to pay for University degrees and a high lifestyle. In the UK some girls are demanding £1000 a pop and getting it. The days of the pimps are ending because girls can be independent. There are literally thousands doing sexual webcam shows for money, all legal from the convenience of their own homes.

Sad times I think, dread to think what society is going to be like in the next 20 years. Anything goes, probably.

Edited November 4, 2015 by cyberfarang

[smotherb]

Wife can be the most expensive prostitute in your life.

If your wife blows all your money, you should have stayed with prostitutes until you re-thought your criteria for a wife.

[Bangkokhatter]

What B.S. , talks to 20 and comes to this conclusion. What a rag of a publication to call this writer a reporter.

How many have you spoken to?

BS back. i know a massage worker in soi honey pattaya , she is 26 years old, her name is superstar ( wonder why ) she earns average 8-10k a day sometimes as much as 20k a day - 300000k a month average. plus she has 3-4 farangs sending her money from abroad. she allways has a large smile on her face.

please tell me she doesnt just love her life in thailand.

Some people believe anything you tell them

[cyberfarang]

What B.S. , talks to 20 and comes to this conclusion. What a rag of a publication to call this writer a reporter.

How many have you spoken to?

BS back. i know a massage worker in soi honey pattaya , she is 26 years old, her name is superstar ( wonder why ) she earns average 8-10k a day sometimes as much as 20k a day - 300000k a month average. plus she has 3-4 farangs sending her money from abroad. she allways has a large smile on her face.

please tell me she doesnt just love her life in thailand.

I know what you are saying is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Even the plainest of girls in their prime years from 18 to 35 can earn fortunes. Some sad, desperate old men will travel the 4 corners of the Earth seeking it and pay whatever these girls demand. One old plodder I knew in the UK was sending over 100000 baht a month to a 30 year old woman (that looked over 40 in her photoshopped photo) in Thailand he met online and would be there for him when he visited Thailand for a month once a year. He really believed that she would stay loyal to him if he kept sending the money, what a nonce.

Gone are the days of cheap nooky in Thailand, especially when there are old men willing to pay 100000 baht a month for it. It`s probably due to the fact that the Internet has made it possible for the girls to extend their services internationally that has became the bait to reel them in, so it`s easy for them to make contacts with foreigners and con them into sending money.

On the other hand, prostitution is a dangerous occupation. Susceptible to every known disease, psychological problems, they have to override repulsion, dangerous mental clients and violence and by the time they reach 40, are probably burnt out wreaks with a disdained hatred of men. Some may earn fortunes, but the toll on their well being can be heavy.

[smotherb]

This thread has a lot of examples of what I refer to as " Western values evaluating Asian culture".

These girls are not "selling their souls", they are just selling their time.

In my home countries, most women who have sex for money are drug addicts who are not fit for any other work and have no choice...it is sad.

Here it is a viable career choice and a girl who is wise and careful can do well.

Unlike the west, here family and friends know how they earn their income and do not look down on them for it...it is a job,

they are providing a service for an income.

They are not doing it just to pay for their next drug fix.

If she is wise enough to be careful to protect herself from STDs and abusive men, she is pretty safe.

I can see that if you are young and into partying with friends, it can be a very enjoyable life style.

If they wisely manage and invest the money they earn, they can provided a much better life and future for themselves and their family than they could ever do working on a farm or in a factory.

I know girls ( not as a customer, but as a friend ) who have purchased houses, farms, trucks and tractors for their families and are looking at a pretty decent life when they get older.

And..they only work a few months per year.

This is Thailand, not New York or L.A. and there is a huge difference.

I gotta say. I have never met more delusional men than on this very forum. The above post is a perfect example. Prostitution was never a career choice for anyone. I understand people justifying their actions in Thailand, but I don't understand the mass delusion.

I think you may be the delusional one. Many of the women who work the bars are there not because they love the work, but because it is easier and more lucrative than pulling a plow, slopping the pigs, sweating in the fields, slaving over a hot stove, or enduring the drudgery of factory work—it is a career choice.

Sure, as with any profession, there are downsides and despicable situations—the sex trade may have more than its share of bad circumstances. There are traffickers who capture, imprison, drug, abuse the girls, expose them to STDs, and make them sell their bodies to whoever pays the fee. Some of those girls live short lives and die horrible deaths. However, in Southeast Asia that is not the norm I have seen. Sure, what I am saying is anecdotal, with no empirical evidence, but it involves knowledge of the situation of many girls in many bars in many cities in many countries.

Over the last 50 years, I have known working girls from Vietnam, the Philippines, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia who have had other options, but chose prostitution. I have heard some girls claim to enjoy the trade. Is it true, do they really? Well, common sense posits a girl who enjoys sex has more incentive to work the trade than a frigid girl. Many may just groan and bare it, but by and large, the ones I know are there by choice--not that it would be their first choice, but it is their best choice.

The most recent example of a reoccurring phenomenon I witnessed happened just a month ago. A farang friend took a girl out of the bar and attempted to make an honest woman of her. She was not satisfied, wanted more than he was willing to give, so she left him and went back to the bars. Many girls, even if they have captured that long-term customer, cannot give up the sex trips for extra cash or just the hell of it. So, they continue selling their wares even though they have a "husband."

I've known six or eight sets of mothers and daughters working the profession. In some cases, the mothers were mama-sans and introduced their daughters to the game. In others, the daughters wanted their mothers’ apparently exciting life; they wanted the sexy clothes, cell phones, jewelry, and to party late into the night rather than years of getting up early to go to school and, if lucky, get a 9-5 job for little more than minimum wage; or worse yet, to marry the village boyfriend, have a dozen kids, work your fingers to the bone, and live in a shack without enough to eat.

The sex trade is a sort of sexual finishing school; the diploma is the MRS and the point is to capture a sugar daddy—in many instances, he is nothing more than a long-term customer, not a real husband and they cuckold him at every chance. It seems the longer a girl works the trade, the more apt she is to begin thinking of herself as a commodity and the less likely the buffalo can convince her to be faithful to him.

Don’t get me wrong, it can be done. I have a very good friend who fell in love with a girl from the truck washes in Vietnam. If you don’t know about the truck washes, I cannot tell you, suffice to say she had sex with 15-20 guys a day. If she had as many pricks stuck out as had been stuck in, she would be a porcupine. She became a wonderful wife and they had almost 40 years of marital bliss. No one could have touched her except him. However, she is the exception, not the rule.

Consequently, I place no confidence in your statement, "Prostitution was never a career choice for anyone." I know it would be for me, if I had only the choices many of these girls have.

The old adage about not being able to take the farm out of the boy, is apropos when attempting to take the bar out of a girl. It seems, you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think.

[cyberfarang]

Many Thai sex workers tell me I'm a handsome man, too.

What does your wife say?

She agrees with them, obviously.

Anyway, those who claim it's an easy job should give it a go for a week and see what they think then...

I would be happy to give it a try, but suspect I would get no customers.

Already tried working in the Paddy fields, can't imagine it would be worse.

Already tried working on a factory production line, never again.

Tried the tobacco farm (see photo), after 30 minutes, gave up, too hard.

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Probably not an easy job, just preferable to the alternatives, three of which I named.

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[cobbler]

Where did you get your numbers on HIV rates at Patong? Doesn't surprise me, btw. I've read research that indicates 90% of the Thai women that have HIV do not tell their partners, or bosses, customers, etc. if they're sex workers. It also said most of those women do not use protection with their partners.

UN Aids GAP Report (2014), WHO annual assessment publications 2012-2014. Multiple academic reports and from discussions with public health researchers. I'll go one step further and state that I saw it first hand in Patong. What surprised me was how many had died within a 5 year period. (Inadequate.)

If one looks at the younger segment of sex trade workers and their demographic characteristics of lower intelligence and limited education it explains in large part why some are considered "happy". In plain language, many of the sex workers are mentally impaired and exist in a different mental reality than the rest of the population. Happiness to them is delaying the pain of yaba withdrawal, or in having somewhere to stay or a replacement family or in having someone care for them.

It is quite something to read the justifications in this thread from the males who have sexual relations with defacto mentally retarded people. True, not all sex workers are mentally deficient, but It is quite obvious that many are, and yet there are clients who seek them out, exploiting their vulnerabilities. People with above average IQs or job skills or an education are not typically going to seek out sex trade work. It is a job sector that attracts people with impaired cognitive skills, drug addictions, psychological issues and mental illness and debt. Happiness for these people is different for them compared to the young woman who is working as a bank teller or the male who is working at Tesco.

love it mate. Sounds like a whole bunch of wobbley heads lmfao

[cyberfarang]

Where did you get your numbers on HIV rates at Patong? Doesn't surprise me, btw. I've read research that indicates 90% of the Thai women that have HIV do not tell their partners, or bosses, customers, etc. if they're sex workers. It also said most of those women do not use protection with their partners.

UN Aids GAP Report (2014), WHO annual assessment publications 2012-2014. Multiple academic reports and from discussions with public health researchers. I'll go one step further and state that I saw it first hand in Patong. What surprised me was how many had died within a 5 year period. (Inadequate.)

If one looks at the younger segment of sex trade workers and their demographic characteristics of lower intelligence and limited education it explains in large part why some are considered "happy". In plain language, many of the sex workers are mentally impaired and exist in a different mental reality than the rest of the population. Happiness to them is delaying the pain of yaba withdrawal, or in having somewhere to stay or a replacement family or in having someone care for them.

It is quite something to read the justifications in this thread from the males who have sexual relations with defacto mentally retarded people. True, not all sex workers are mentally deficient, but It is quite obvious that many are, and yet there are clients who seek them out, exploiting their vulnerabilities. People with above average IQs or job skills or an education are not typically going to seek out sex trade work. It is a job sector that attracts people with impaired cognitive skills, drug addictions, psychological issues and mental illness and debt. Happiness for these people is different for them compared to the young woman who is working as a bank teller or the male who is working at Tesco.

Not fact at all.

I once watched a documentary about the red light district in Holland. There was one blonde 32 year old Scottish woman working there who was a fully qualified professor and medical doctor She claimed to be demanding £3000 an hour for sexual services and getting it, the money that is. She said to had placed her medical career on hold while she was still young and attractive enough to earn big money as a high class prostitute servicing rich clients, even politicians and celebrities.

I agree many in the lower sex worker brackets are not quite the ticket, but you are only looking at one end of the industry, there is also a higher end where highly intelligent business women are making fortunes, that for most of us is well out of our league, the one`s you won`t see working at a bar in Thailand or advertising in the classifieds on craigslist or on facebook.

[eldragon]

Where did you get your numbers on HIV rates at Patong? Doesn't surprise me, btw. I've read research that indicates 90% of the Thai women that have HIV do not tell their partners, or bosses, customers, etc. if they're sex workers. It also said most of those women do not use protection with their partners.

UN Aids GAP Report (2014), WHO annual assessment publications 2012-2014. Multiple academic reports and from discussions with public health researchers. I'll go one step further and state that I saw it first hand in Patong. What surprised me was how many had died within a 5 year period. (Inadequate.)

If one looks at the younger segment of sex trade workers and their demographic characteristics of lower intelligence and limited education it explains in large part why some are considered "happy". In plain language, many of the sex workers are mentally impaired and exist in a different mental reality than the rest of the population. Happiness to them is delaying the pain of yaba withdrawal, or in having somewhere to stay or a replacement family or in having someone care for them.

It is quite something to read the justifications in this thread from the males who have sexual relations with defacto mentally retarded people. True, not all sex workers are mentally deficient, but It is quite obvious that many are, and yet there are clients who seek them out, exploiting their vulnerabilities. People with above average IQs or job skills or an education are not typically going to seek out sex trade work. It is a job sector that attracts people with impaired cognitive skills, drug addictions, psychological issues and mental illness and debt. Happiness for these people is different for them compared to the young woman who is working as a bank teller or the male who is working at Tesco.

Not fact at all.

I once watched a documentary about the red light district in Holland. There was one blonde 32 year old Scottish woman working there who was a fully qualified professor and medical doctor She claimed to be demanding £3000 an hour for sexual services and getting it, the money that is. She said to had placed her medical career on hold while she was still young and attractive enough to earn big money as a high class prostitute servicing rich clients, even politicians and celebrities.

I agree many in the lower sex worker brackets are not quite the ticket, but you are only looking at one end of the industry, there is also a higher end where highly intelligent business women are making fortunes, that for most of us is well out of our league, the one`s you won`t see working at a bar in Thailand or advertising in the classifieds on craigslist or on facebook.

Not really fair to compare high-class European hookers working on their medical degree to your average sex worker in TH, where the education and level of sophistication is generally lower as it is. Guy makes a good point, although I'd say these girls are more immature than they are mentally retarded. And they choose the lifestyle bc- in the same way young men are led to dealing drugs- they perceive it as the only one available to em. I also think he's picking on sex workers a bit. Thai people as a whole are easily amused and generally happy if they get their som tam. Edited November 5, 2015 by eldragon

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Thai people as a whole are easily amused and generally happy if they get their som tam.

You sound like you regard them as more like animals than human beings.