juice777 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Hi I am thinking of getting a ED visaI was thinking of getting one any way even before they double-entry tourist visa wentI would like to learn Thai and I have plenty of free time and need something to do lolCan someone please explain how it all works I've been searching Google but get conflicting or out of date informationOr post a link to a website which explains it allI need to know how much the visa cost do I have to go on visa runs or extend it here after 3 or 6 monthsOr is it good for 1 yearCan I get one in Thailand or do I have to leave and get one in loasAnd can anyone recommend a good school in Pattaya which also helps you with getting the visaThanksSent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Edited November 8, 2015 by Maestro corrected terminology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Contact this school, they have a branch in Pattaya and will help with the ED visa application: http://www.tlslanguageschool.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The first step is to choose a school that can qualify for you to get an ED visa and extensions of stay. Pay the tuition for 400 hours of study if you want to remain for a year or 200 hours for 6 months. Then you will need to go to a nearby embassy or consulate to get a single entry non-ed visa that costs 2000 baht. The visa will allow a 90 day entry. Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry you can apply for a 90 day extension at immigration for a fee of 1900 baht. Between the 90 entry and extensions can get a total stay for 12 months before needing to go out for anther visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The ED visa game is over. You have 2 options: Pay a lot of tuition for a legit school and attend classes as stipulated by Education ministry. A lot of work and time and money. -or- pay even more money and work with the school to falsify your attendance records to show you have been attending. In either case depending on whether the Imm officer is constipated or not that day...he may test you on whatever subject you are supposed to be learning...and no matter what the results....he may give you only 30 days extension and tell you to come back in 30 days for another test. Each time...you are $1900 baht lighter or more (school may them want a bribe to share with him) You first must get a Non B Ed visa with school documentation (out of Thailand) .this gives you 90 days ...then after this 90 days...the fun as detailed above starts....I would recommend against it unless you really want to be a legit student and have the funds to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice777 Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 The ED visa game is over. You have 2 options: Pay a lot of tuition for a legit school and attend classes as stipulated by Education ministry. A lot of work and time and money. -or- pay even more money and work with the school to falsify your attendance records to show you have been attending. In either case depending on whether the Imm officer is constipated or not that day...he may test you on whatever subject you are supposed to be learning...and no matter what the results....he may give you only 30 days extension and tell you to come back in 30 days for another test. Each time...you are $1900 baht lighter or more (school may them want a bribe to share with him) You first must get a Non B Ed visa with school documentation (out of Thailand) .this gives you 90 days ...then after this 90 days...the fun as detailed above starts....I would recommend against it unless you really want to be a legit student and have the funds to do so. I want to be a legitimate student I've just been quoted 17000b for 180 hoursPlus 8000b for a visa run Plus 1900b x 3 stamps at the Embassy Which seems like a good deal 2 me As it works out about 2000b more then 2 geting 2 doubles a year and you can't do that now anyway And I learn Thai and only have 2 go on one visa run What do you think about that? Dose that sound ok or am I missing something? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. that's about right...so for 12 months your likely expense would be: 17,000 + 17000 + (1900 x 4) = 41,600 + 2 Visa Runs for Non -B s (8000) = about 50,000 baht total As I said...it's not cheap. And every 90 days you are faced with the stress of Immigration 'maybe' not giving you 90 days extension. In Bkk now it is quite common that people are getting 30 days and then told to come back. Another $1900 then they get an additional 60 days. Edited November 7, 2015 by tonray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. that's about right...so for 12 months your likely expense would be: 17,000 + 17000 + (1900 x 4) = 41,600 + 2 Visa Runs for Non -B s (8000) = about 50,000 baht total As I said...it's not cheap. And every 90 days you are faced with the stress of Immigration 'maybe' not giving you 90 days extension. In Bkk now it is quite common that people are getting 30 days and then told to come back. Another $1900 then they get an additional 60 days. Why are the visa runs so expensive? 8000 baht for what? A train journey to Vientianne and back with cheap accommodation isn't going to cost 8000 baht. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. that's about right...so for 12 months your likely expense would be: 17,000 + 17000 + (1900 x 4) = 41,600 + 2 Visa Runs for Non -B s (8000) = about 50,000 baht total As I said...it's not cheap. And every 90 days you are faced with the stress of Immigration 'maybe' not giving you 90 days extension. In Bkk now it is quite common that people are getting 30 days and then told to come back. Another $1900 then they get an additional 60 days. Why are the visa runs so expensive? 8000 baht for what? A train journey to Vientianne and back with cheap accommodation isn't going to cost 8000 baht. What am I missing? I simply used the OPs number.....should be closer to 4500 baht unless he likes to fly first class....(2000 for the Non-B , 1500 for the Lao Visa, 1000 for travel) Edited November 7, 2015 by tonray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 You can get much cheaper than this, some member quoted 11k for a year in Patt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. that's about right...so for 12 months your likely expense would be: 17,000 + 17000 + (1900 x 4) = 41,600 + 2 Visa Runs for Non -B s (8000) = about 50,000 baht total As I said...it's not cheap. And every 90 days you are faced with the stress of Immigration 'maybe' not giving you 90 days extension. In Bkk now it is quite common that people are getting 30 days and then told to come back. Another $1900 then they get an additional 60 days. Do you have a breakdown of how many hours per day/days per week you must study? I also want to head down the same route. I can speak quite a bit of Thai but cannot read and write. A long term stay to learn is my goal, though I don't like the sound of the unnecessary 30 day at 1900 baht extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. that's about right...so for 12 months your likely expense would be: 17,000 + 17000 + (1900 x 4) = 41,600 + 2 Visa Runs for Non -B s (8000) = about 50,000 baht total As I said...it's not cheap. And every 90 days you are faced with the stress of Immigration 'maybe' not giving you 90 days extension. In Bkk now it is quite common that people are getting 30 days and then told to come back. Another $1900 then they get an additional 60 days. Do you have a breakdown of how many hours per day/days per week you must study? I also want to head down the same route. I can speak quite a bit of Thai but cannot read and write. A long term stay to learn is my goal, though I don't like the sound of the unnecessary 30 day at 1900 baht extensions. The official Ministry of Education requirement is 8 hours classroom study per week in an MOE approved school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 In some parts of the country namely Chiang Mai, they raised it to 10 hours. If you dont want to do extensions get a multiple entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 In some parts of the country namely Chiang Mai, they raised it to 10 hours. If you dont want to do extensions get a multiple entries. Multiple entry Ed visas are not obtainable within the Region. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 In some parts of the country namely Chiang Mai, they raised it to 10 hours. If you dont want to do extensions get a multiple entries. Multiple entry Ed visas are not obtainable within the Region. says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) In some parts of the country namely Chiang Mai, they raised it to 10 hours. If you dont want to do extensions get a multiple entries. Multiple entry Ed visas are not obtainable within the Region. says who? Why not just tell members where, in the Region, a multi entry Ed visa is available if you believe I have posted inaccurate information. Edited November 7, 2015 by oncearugge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I would love to hear from satisfied learners of good schools in Bangkok. Or maybe I can search out an existing thread. Not somewhere dodgy but somewhere good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I would love to hear from satisfied learners of good schools in Bangkok. Or maybe I can search out an existing thread. Not somewhere dodgy but somewhere good. You may get more informed advise in the "Language school courses" forum. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/182-language-school-courses/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Perhaps you can find some info in thiis forum.. Language school courses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 In some parts of the country namely Chiang Mai, they raised it to 10 hours. If you dont want to do extensions get a multiple entries. Multiple entry Ed visas are not obtainable within the Region. says who? Why not just tell members where, in the Region, a multi entry Ed visa is available if you believe I have posted inaccurate information. Because that would close yet another loophole, and I have been reproached to do so previously. People who want info can PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Cheers for the pointers to the language school section. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice777 Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 You can get much cheaper than this, some member quoted 11k for a year in PattAny chance you know where? Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 You can get much cheaper than this, some member quoted 11k for a year in PattAny chance you know where?Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Best you ask in this forum http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/forum/182-language-school-courses/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice777 Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. that's about right...so for 12 months your likely expense would be: 17,000 + 17000 + (1900 x 4) = 41,600 + 2 Visa Runs for Non -B s (8000) = about 50,000 baht total As I said...it's not cheap. And every 90 days you are faced with the stress of Immigration 'maybe' not giving you 90 days extension. In Bkk now it is quite common that people are getting 30 days and then told to come back. Another $1900 then they get an additional 60 days. Why are the visa runs so expensive? 8000 baht for what? A train journey to Vientianne and back with cheap accommodation isn't going to cost 8000 baht. What am I missing?That includes visa for loas and visa for Thailand With the double I worked it out and I think I could have saved about 800b if i did it myself, this way it is nice and easy Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice777 Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Just 180 hours of study might give you a total stay of 6 months. You go to the local immigration office to get the 90 day extensions for a fee of 1900 baht. You don't have to go out to an embassy to get them. that's about right...so for 12 months your likely expense would be: 17,000 + 17000 + (1900 x 4) = 41,600 + 2 Visa Runs for Non -B s (8000) = about 50,000 baht total As I said...it's not cheap. And every 90 days you are faced with the stress of Immigration 'maybe' not giving you 90 days extension. In Bkk now it is quite common that people are getting 30 days and then told to come back. Another $1900 then they get an additional 60 days. Do you have a breakdown of how many hours per day/days per week you must study? I also want to head down the same route. I can speak quite a bit of Thai but cannot read and write. A long term stay to learn is my goal, though I don't like the sound of the unnecessary 30 day at 1900 baht extensions. Sorry it was for 6 months not one year so a lot more then I thought Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Edited November 7, 2015 by ubonjoe resized immage to fit page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) I have a friend who wishes to do this course http://www.thongsookinternational.com/ba-tesol.html and obtain an ED visa to study. The studying is the 3 months of the year when the schools are on holiday, he currently works as a teacher in BKK, no degree, no work permit, no Non B, currently on triple entry tourist visa that expires end of January 2016. Is this a good idea to become legal to teach in Thailand? Edited November 7, 2015 by tribalfusion001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Best your friend checks that this "degree" meets the requirements of the Thai Teaching council. Without the Councils approval there will be no "B" visa or work permit. It would seem that as the course takes three years to complete even if your friend manages to resolve the visa issues he will still be working illegally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Best your friend checks that this "degree" meets the requirements of the Thai Teaching council. Without the Councils approval there will be no "B" visa or work permit. It would seem that as the course takes three years to complete even if your friend manages to resolve the visa issues he will still be working illegally. Yes, he will still be working illegally. Someone said of here last night to get a multiple entry ED visa, not single, but they are harder to obtain? I don't know why I'm bothering to ask questions about his status, lazy sod should be doing it himself 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oncearugge Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Best your friend checks that this "degree" meets the requirements of the Thai Teaching council. Without the Councils approval there will be no "B" visa or work permit. It would seem that as the course takes three years to complete even if your friend manages to resolve the visa issues he will still be working illegally. Yes, he will still be working illegally. Someone said of here last night to get a multiple entry ED visa, not single, but they are harder to obtain? I don't know why I'm bothering to ask questions about his status, lazy sod should be doing it himself 555 Multi entry ED visas cannot be obtained within the Region. It is also illegal to work whilst on an ED visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Best your friend checks that this "degree" meets the requirements of the Thai Teaching council. Without the Councils approval there will be no "B" visa or work permit. It would seem that as the course takes three years to complete even if your friend manages to resolve the visa issues he will still be working illegally. Yes, he will still be working illegally. Someone said of here last night to get a multiple entry ED visa, not single, but they are harder to obtain? I don't know why I'm bothering to ask questions about his status, lazy sod should be doing it himself 555 Multi entry ED visas cannot be obtained within the Region. It is also illegal to work whilst on an ED visa. I know it's illegal, but he is early 30's with a Thai girlfriend and doesn't want to go home. Does the UK do multiple entry ED? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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