PETERTHEEATER Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 You could say this has gone tits up As Post #9 observed......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 One of my best friends mothers died after liposuction and various procedures in Florida/USA A fully certified doctor, lots of money, no expenses spared, no corners cut. (no law suit or settlement either, even though I think there was negligence. She was upsold to extra procedures, as she was being wheeled into surgery, which lasted over 10 hours.) A fat embolism as I understand it. Surgery is now accepted as routine but it is never without its risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeinThailand Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 She said the clinical doctor was uncertified and didn’t show any responsibility for his work. Of course she would. You are just butt hurt, or in this case tit hurt, because you are part of the 'when things go wrong statistic'. Certified or uncertified there is a risk for anyting done medically. Hell, even taking something as simple as asprin has a risk. You went with the low bid and it came out badly. Not all low bids are bad, just like the highest bidder is not always the breast...errr best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 All surgery carries a risk, vanity surgery is no different. Not surprised that your 'like' is into this topic!! I bet he has covered every post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomyai Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Her fault, not her fault.......... The clinical doctor was uncertified, period. His fault. Over the years ive seen 1000s of thai girl bosom jobs................hahahaha. Most of them are HORRENDOUS....and thats being nice. The unfortunate thing is most dont result in more customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphMichaels Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 All surgery carries a risk, vanity surgery is no different. Particularly when it involves small, cheap clinics in a country where there is little if any oversight or fear of disciplinary action from the professional body and the customer is far more focused on the price than doing any research on the procedure and its risks. p.s. if I was the 24-year old totty, I would be asking Paveena where she gets her surgery done. She must be around 80 now but still looks not a day over 51. Unfortunately, even western countries are slow to adopt oversight on these clinics. The US and UK are rife with them as well and many have died as a mixed result of both botched procedures and next-to-no regulation. It's time to set global standards and make sure practitioners are qualified as full medical doctors and then specialization that includes formal medicine-based education/clinical/practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The problem in Thailand is that there is no place to do a background check on the clinic and/or doctor. Also, Thais are taught not to question authority figures so they believe that everything is going to be fine. In addition, no Thai doctor explains things to their patients. I hope this girl wins compensation. It may just cause clinics and/or doctors to take the time to get legal and explain risks versus advantages as well as an agency having oversight over credentials. Whatever her reason for wanting the surgery- no one deserves to end up the way she did, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Seems Thai Law is partly to blame also (see http://www.samuitimes.com/medical-tourism-plastic-surgery-good-bad-ugly/). Apparently (as mentioned in that link), the penalty for the illegal operation of medical or cosmetic establishments is a maximum of three years in jail and a fine of no more than 30,000 baht. Also, unlicensed physicians face three years in jail and a 30,000 baht fine. However a surgeon with counterfeited certificates faces three years in jail but only a 6,000 baht fine. Probably goes without saying that a smart lawyer could easily water down the penalty for their unscrupulous client! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Wow. This sounds errie familiar to those who go to Costa Rica for Lazik. And leave blind. Lucky for me I'm ok You.re sure about that are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 A smart lawyer could do a lot of things to get compensation for the girl. First, file criminal charges and use that as a bridge to get the doctor/clinic to pay up. She already has the publicity in the news. I am sure that she will get more unless the place pays. If I were her, I would fight to the end. Most of the time in Thailand- people get maimed or killed because there is no accountability. It only stops when you hit them in the pocket. There are too many business owners that believe they are above the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuketboy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 100,000 THB for injecting some silicone sealer into her tits, how much would a certified Doctor charge,stupid thing to do, but she is a model. regards worgeordie 2 girls who work for me had their boobs done this year. Very nice jobs by a very good surgeon at Bangkok Hospital. Cost them 60,000. My ex got her boobs done here in Bangkok Yanhee hospital, cost the same. So not only did this girl use an uncertified doctor, she got a bodge job and got ripped off at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Surely breast augmentation is done now exclusively by inserting pads filled with silicone, saline or other approved liquids. Didn't injecting material including silicone, into breasts go out of favour 30 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I blame here as much as the Doctor. If you are going to want plastic surgery or augmentation then go to a Licensed Cosmetic Surgeon Not a doctor who says he or she can do it They are not certified plastic surgeons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 What is there to complain? She wanted cheap and good surgery so this is what she gets. Cheap things don't good and good things don't come cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyumchai Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 might as well have had 2 soup bowls stuffed in there. ive handled quite a few 'injected filler' puppies and the soup bowl is a much better option. it would have the same feel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 A smart lawyer could do a lot of things to get compensation for the girl. First, file criminal charges and use that as a bridge to get the doctor/clinic to pay up. She already has the publicity in the news. I am sure that she will get more unless the place pays. If I were her, I would fight to the end. Most of the time in Thailand- people get maimed or killed because there is no accountability. It only stops when you hit them in the pocket. There are too many business owners that believe they are above the law. And then the clinic pays off the judiciary, leaving her in debt. Welcome to the amazing land of corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I love little tits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I have conducted in-depth research on fake tits and have come to the conclusion that they are not the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Her fault, not her fault.......... The clinical doctor was uncertified, period. His fault. Over the years ive seen 1000s of thai girl bosom jobs................hahahaha. Most of them are HORRENDOUS....and thats being nice. The unfortunate thing is most dont result in more customers. With your moniker, I bet you were so excited that you were shaking when you espied this topic. Fairly sour comments though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 This is nothing to do with "normal risks associated with any medical procedure - it was carried out by an unqualified person. Two points... firstly the doctor was able to carry out this - and how many other operations - without detection. secondly when confronted with a problem, denied all responsibility. this is what makes any medical procedure in Thailand so risky....there is little chance of comeback - especially with foreigners who may well live elsewhere and it is nigh-on impossible to pin any responsibility onto a doctor or any practitioner in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 "She said the clinical doctor was uncertified and didn’t show any responsibility for his work." Well Duh!!! Instead of researching the "doctor", she takes the advice of a friend with no medical training. One has to be an utter fool to not check up on the qualifications of a practitioner before undergoing any medical procedure. Especially when she probably chose this individual because he was the cheapest one she could afford.. That's why they have certification for many professions. To ensure professional and safety standards. Of course a medical procedure that introduces a foreign substance into the body can be dangerous, and even with the proper training and attention to professional standards, things can go wrong. With someone who is unqualified to perform this procedure (assuming that this is a legitimate procedure), there is a much greater chance of something going wrong. Someone who has not gone through the process of proper training and certification is already exhibiting his lack of responsibility. I feel bad for her, but undergoing a potentially dangerous elective medical procedure by an unqualified practitioner in order to meet the sexist standards of a shallow universal male ideal, shows a total lack of responsibility to oneself. Wow! Very bitter!! Have you not considered the young woman's position? In good faith she goes to someone (who probably, had a certificate of some sort on the wall) explains what she wants done, "doctor" says I've got the proper material and I have the proper skill!!! In any western country she could sue the "doctor" and his/her clinic, to be followed up by criminal charges on both the "doctor" and the clinic! There is no such protection or education for "caveat emptor" (let the buyer beware) so give the girl a break, at least she was trying to make herself employable!! God! Some people on this site are bitter and twisted!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Proud to be twisted. A scholarly tune about this topic: Edited November 12, 2015 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsy Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 After intense research and questioning a range of people I had a procedure done a few years ago at Chiang Mai RAM by a certified surgeon, who was also on a panel of specialist surgeons and was considered one of the top 5 in his area of expertise in Thailand and the procedure was a disaster that did not yield the results that I was guaranteed. Making sure of the qualifications, experience and expertise of medical professionals here in Thailand is not going to guarantee anything. And even if they do offer to rectify the problem/poor outcome, why would you let the same goose have another go at messing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 "She said the clinical doctor was uncertified and didn’t show any responsibility for his work." Well Duh!!! Instead of researching the "doctor", she takes the advice of a friend with no medical training. One has to be an utter fool to not check up on the qualifications of a practitioner before undergoing any medical procedure. Especially when she probably chose this individual because he was the cheapest one she could afford.. That's why they have certification for many professions. To ensure professional and safety standards. Of course a medical procedure that introduces a foreign substance into the body can be dangerous, and even with the proper training and attention to professional standards, things can go wrong. With someone who is unqualified to perform this procedure (assuming that this is a legitimate procedure), there is a much greater chance of something going wrong. Someone who has not gone through the process of proper training and certification is already exhibiting his lack of responsibility. I feel bad for her, but undergoing a potentially dangerous elective medical procedure by an unqualified practitioner in order to meet the sexist standards of a shallow universal male ideal, shows a total lack of responsibility to oneself. Unfortunately training is Thailand is highly inconsistent or suspect....all-pervasive corruption sees to that...the result is no matter how much "research" you do before seeing a doctor, you are unlikely to get any solid results....the entire medical industry will close ranks in these situations. The sad truth is that many bits of paper you see adorning doctors offices are not worth the paper they are printed on...they aren't so much earned as bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Personally I can not stand the thought of plastic breast enlargement, a definite no-no ! Be happy with what you have No.....It probably wouldnt suit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomyai Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Boobies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 "She said the clinical doctor was uncertified and didn’t show any responsibility for his work." Well Duh!!! Instead of researching the "doctor", she takes the advice of a friend with no medical training. One has to be an utter fool to not check up on the qualifications of a practitioner before undergoing any medical procedure. Especially when she probably chose this individual because he was the cheapest one she could afford.. That's why they have certification for many professions. To ensure professional and safety standards. Of course a medical procedure that introduces a foreign substance into the body can be dangerous, and even with the proper training and attention to professional standards, things can go wrong. With someone who is unqualified to perform this procedure (assuming that this is a legitimate procedure), there is a much greater chance of something going wrong. Someone who has not gone through the process of proper training and certification is already exhibiting his lack of responsibility. I feel bad for her, but undergoing a potentially dangerous elective medical procedure by an unqualified practitioner in order to meet the sexist standards of a shallow universal male ideal, shows a total lack of responsibility to oneself. The most prestigious private hospital will also decline responsibility for surgical procedure in Thailand...with no realistic legislative recourse. So yes, beware of the back room clinics at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Happens all over the world, choosing an uncertified Dr, well, thats just asking for trouble.. I don't know what an "uncertified doctor" is supposed to mean in this news report. Does it mean, the person who botched her surgery/treatment was an actual licensed Thai medical doctor, but just not one certified for cosmetic surgery/augmentation? Or, does it mean the person who injected her, etc etc wasn't actually a real doctor at all, and was just another of those fakes running fake medical clinics and performing medical procedures entirely illegally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazydrummerpauly Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Happens everywhere - remember the lovely Leslie Ash and her 'trout pout' lip problem ? - http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/my-trout-pout-hell-leslie-ash-reveals-her-trauma-in-tv-documentary-6897438.html Not an especially Thai problem, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Out of possibly hundreds of thousand of breast augmentation one or 2 goes wrong, it is still within the calculated risk factors, the issue here is the responsibility of the doctors to remedy the situation, and breast's repair job are not too hard to do to a satisfactory results... so really, Thais doctors bashings in this case, is unnecessary.... I would say bashing of this particular incompetent is justified. The issue is using an unregistered guy and in that grouping the results may well be outside the calculated risk factor, which should be near zero anyhow! We have all heard horror stories even from renown hospitals, which suggest there are low levels of responsibility and lack of discipline.and a commission based environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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