Russian crackdown on Muslims fuels exodus to Islamic State

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Russian crackdown on Muslims fuels exodus to Islamic State
By NATALIYA VASILYEVA

KOMSOMOLSKOYE, Russia (AP) — Security forces in Russia's southernmost republic of Dagestan keep devout Muslims under surveillance, routinely raid their homes and haul them to police stations to give DNA samples and fingerprints.

So it was no surprise to many in the village of Komsomolskoye that Rashid Magomedov fled to Syria to join the Islamic State group, leaving behind a pregnant wife and two children.

The 30-year-old had been detained several times, spent two months in jail on charges that later were dismissed and complained that police repeatedly planted weapons at his home as a pretext to arrest him.

"The fact that he left for Syria — the police are to blame. They wouldn't leave the boy alone," said Magomedov's father, Zaynudin.

The heavy-handed security presence in the predominantly Muslim area is an outgrowth of two separatist wars in nearby Chechnya in the mid-1990s that spread an Islamic insurgency throughout the North Caucasus region of Russia. Militants carried out many attacks, including suicide bombings and kidnappings, to pursue their goal of establishing Islamic fundamentalism, or simply to seek revenge against corrupt officials.

This culture of violence has fostered a generation of hardened fighters, which combined with the continuing crackdown by police and other security forces, has made areas like Komsomolskoye a fertile recruiting ground for the Islamic State group.

Few efforts are made by Russian authorities to stop young men from leaving. Many in Dagestan see the intimidating security presence as not only fueling the exodus but also serving to rid the region of potential militants by encouraging them to flee.

Almost everyone in Komsomolskoye knows someone who has left for Syria. Dagestani police put the number at 11, but when residents are asked to list those who have left, the count is far bigger.

Regional police say nearly a third of the estimated 3,000 Russians who are believed to have gone to fight alongside IS militants in Syria are from Dagestan, a republic of 3 million people. They are men and women from both rich and poor families, from religiously conservative villages to very secular towns.

Komsomolskoye is one of several villages in Dagestan where security officials routinely announce "counterterrorist operations" and send SWAT teams to raid houses of suspected militants at the break of dawn. The main road in and out of the village is guarded around the clock by security officers with automatic weapons, and hundreds of residents are kept under surveillance, their names kept on a so-called Wahhabi list.

Those on the Wahhabi list can expect to get stopped at police checkpoints, where they can be detained for hours. They are visited at home and get phone calls at any time of day from police inquiring about their plans and whereabouts. They are often required to provide DNA samples and fingerprints.

Magomed Magomedov, deputy editor-in-chief of Dagestan's respected weekly Chernovik, said the authorities' systematic repression of the ultra-conservative Salafi Islam community is pushing its members to the margins of society.

"If someone goes to the wrong mosque, he knows that when he leaves he could be taken to the police station, where he would be questioned, he would be fingerprinted for the 20th time," said the editor, who is not related to the Magomedov family in Komsomolskoye. "This system of keeping people on edge alienates and embitters them, and one in 10 may just decide to take radical steps and go to Syria."

Russian officials have defended the police profiling and raids on the homes of suspected militants, describing them as steps designed to stave off radicalization and deter possible terrorist attacks.

Officials at Dagestan's Interior Ministry did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

The Associated Press spoke to more than a dozen residents and activists who described how IS extremists use the resentment over the police tactics as a way to recruit new followers.

After Friday prayers last week, police rounded up about 50 worshippers at the main Salafi mosque in Dagestan's capital of Makhachkala. The men were taken to the police station, and some were fingerprinted and asked to give blood samples, according to the Caucasian Knot, a major Russian website that covers the region.

Russia's air campaign in Syria that began Sept. 30 has not received unanimous support among Muslims in Dagestan because President Vladimir Putin is seen as siding with Syrian President Bashar Assad in a war against the Sunni opposition. Most Russian Muslims are Sunni.

Putin said one of the goals of the air campaign in Syria was to prevent Russians fighting alongside the Islamic State from coming back. Most of the young people fleeing Dagestan to escape repression and police persecution have no intention of ever returning because they would almost certainly face long prison terms.

When Rashid Magomedov left in February, he told his family he was going to Egypt to study the Quran.

"He didn't say he was going to Syria, he said he was going to study," said his wife, Assiyat, as she held her 8-month-old son, Musa, on her lap. Her tablet computer has a photo of her husband, smiling with curly black hair.

Her last message from him was via a smartphone at the end of June, saying he was going away for 10 days.

By July, word reached the village that he had been killed in Syria.

After his death, she was visited by law enforcement officers, who continue to keep tabs on her and her children.


-- (c) Associated Press 2015-11-26

[Lantern]

By July, word reached the village that he had been killed in Syria.

I do like a story with a happy ending.

[craigt3365]

Seems Russia is at the crux of this problem:

Regional police say nearly a third of the estimated 3,000 Russians who are believed to have gone to fight alongside IS militants in Syria are from Dagestan, a republic of 3 million people. They are men and women from both rich and poor families, from religiously conservative villages to very secular towns.

3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal. They are bombing their own people.

[SgtRock]

craigt3365, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:34, said:

Seems Russia is at the crux of this problem:

QuoteRegional police say nearly a third of the estimated 3,000 Russians who are believed to have gone to fight alongside IS militants in Syria are from Dagestan, a republic of 3 million people. They are men and women from both rich and poor families, from religiously conservative villages to very secular towns.

3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal. They are bombing their own people.

It could be argued that those fruitloops that go and join other fruitloops in a campaign of atrocities, relinquish the right to be labelled as '' Own people ''

[Suradit69]

craigt3365, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:34, said:

Seems Russia is at the crux of this problem:

QuoteRegional police say nearly a third of the estimated 3,000 Russians who are believed to have gone to fight alongside IS militants in Syria are from Dagestan, a republic of 3 million people. They are men and women from both rich and poor families, from religiously conservative villages to very secular towns.

3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal. They are bombing their own people.

It could be argued that those fruitloops that go and join other fruitloops in a campaign of atrocities, relinquish the right to be labelled as '' Own people ''

And it could be argued that the continued brutal treatment of people is one of the best ways to ensure that the fruit loops will never run out of new recruits.

[SgtRock]

Suradit69, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:47, said:Suradit69, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:47, said:

SgtRock, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:41, said:SgtRock, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:41, said:

craigt3365, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:34, said:craigt3365, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:34, said:craigt3365, on 26 Nov 2015 - 09:34, said:

Seems Russia is at the crux of this problem:

QuoteQuoteQuoteRegional police say nearly a third of the estimated 3,000 Russians who are believed to have gone to fight alongside IS militants in Syria are from Dagestan, a republic of 3 million people. They are men and women from both rich and poor families, from religiously conservative villages to very secular towns.

3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal. They are bombing their own people.

It could be argued that those fruitloops that go and join other fruitloops in a campaign of atrocities, relinquish the right to be labelled as '' Own people ''

And it could be argued that the continued brutal treatment of people is one of the best ways to ensure that the fruit loops will never run out of new recruits.

Having reread my comment, just to ensure that I had not mentioned brutal treatment or new recruits.

I can confirm that I was correct.

Thanks for your enlightening input.

Edited November 26, 2015 by SgtRock

[craigt3365]

Seems they are creating these fruitloops:

The 30-year-old had been detained several times, spent two months in jail on charges that later were dismissed and complained that police repeatedly planted weapons at his home as a pretext to arrest him.

"The fact that he left for Syria — the police are to blame. They wouldn't leave the boy alone," said Magomedov's father, Zaynudin.

Just like Assad's treatment of his people caused this civil war.

[ggt]

The thought did cross my mind...that Russia is encouraging these Muslims to join ISIS...since Russia is in the process of trying to destroy it...

[Linky]

Why does a person need his dna and fingerprints taken repeatedly. Surely once is enough. Unless the russkies believe a person can change their dna.

Edited November 26, 2015 by Linky

[Ulic]

A text book plan on how NOT to win hearts and minds.

[Steely Dan]

I guess being called names on the Internet and the occasional collision with shopping trolleys drove the many hundreds of British Muslims to join ISIS as did the generous Swedish benefits system cause Swedish Muslims to go on jihad.

Sorry, the entire premise of the o.p is dishonest and misleading as it takes Russian provocation causing jihad as a given. As Sam Harris pointed out there is actually a positive correlation between the level of education a Muslim receives and the probability they will become radicalized.

[NeilSA1]

IS militants

Seems Russia is at the crux of this problem:

Regional police say nearly a third of the estimated 3,000 Russians who are believed to have gone to fight alongside IS militants in Syria are from Dagestan, a republic of 3 million people. They are men and women from both rich and poor families, from religiously conservative villages to very secular towns.

3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal. They are bombing their own people.

" 3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal." They are bombing IS militants​

[craigt3365]

IS militants

Seems Russia is at the crux of this problem:

Regional police say nearly a third of the estimated 3,000 Russians who are believed to have gone to fight alongside IS militants in Syria are from Dagestan, a republic of 3 million people. They are men and women from both rich and poor families, from religiously conservative villages to very secular towns.

3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal. They are bombing their own people.

" 3,000 of their citizens are fighting in Syria! Unreal." They are bombing IS militants​

Turkmen are not IS militants. They are actually fighting IS and are being bombed by Russia. But yes, I'm sure some of the IS militants they are bombing are from the Caucasus. Their own people.

[SinCityGr8One]

I'm glad these morons have left Russia and joined IS. Yep, the Tu-160 and Tu-95 Strategic Bombers of the Russian Air Force will fly incredibly more missions and kill incredibly more head chopping terrorists. Annihilate them ALL! President Putin show, "NO MERCY"!

[jaidam]

I guess being called names on the Internet and the occasional collision with shopping trolleys drove the many hundreds of British Muslims to join ISIS as did the generous Swedish benefits system cause Swedish Muslims to go on jihad.

Sorry, the entire premise of the o.p is dishonest and misleading as it takes Russian provocation causing jihad as a given. As Sam Harris pointed out there is actually a positive correlation between the level of education a Muslim receives and the probability they will become radicalized.

I have long noticed a correlation between Islamic violence and state welfare. The devil truly does make work for their idle hands. That a lot of these jihadis are 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants, well it proves a very stark point as to the root cause of their trouble. Dare say if Farangs were paid by the Thai govt to sit in bars all day, given free cash and housing, for generations on end, there would be trouble too because they would have way too much time on their hands and would probably end up in silly cults too. I am sure the productive taxpaying Russians that also happen to be muslim are staying put and carrying on with life as normal, and the freeloaders and regular whack-jobs are running to ISIS to get annihilated by one of the MOABs. Sweet.

[Steely Dan]

I guess being called names on the Internet and the occasional collision with shopping trolleys drove the many hundreds of British Muslims to join ISIS as did the generous Swedish benefits system cause Swedish Muslims to go on jihad.

Sorry, the entire premise of the o.p is dishonest and misleading as it takes Russian provocation causing jihad as a given. As Sam Harris pointed out there is actually a positive correlation between the level of education a Muslim receives and the probability they will become radicalized.

I have long noticed a correlation between Islamic violence and state welfare. The devil truly does make work for their idle hands. That a lot of these jihadis are 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants, well it proves a very stark point as to the root cause of their trouble. Dare say if Farangs were paid by the Thai govt to sit in bars all day, given free cash and housing, for generations on end, there would be trouble too because they would have way too much time on their hands and would probably end up in silly cults too. I am sure the productive taxpaying Russians that also happen to be muslim are staying put and carrying on with life as normal, and the freeloaders and regular whack-jobs are running to ISIS to get annihilated by one of the MOABs. Sweet.

Agreed, but the Farang death cult would be based on alcohol, drugs and sexual misadventure.

[h90]

Why does a person need his dna and fingerprints taken repeatedly. Surely once is enough. Unless the russkies believe a person can change their dna.

I think that is exactly what Russia worries.....the same person (as per ID card) has different DNA and fingerprints....