Siamwhiteelephant Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Bagnato telling his wife to delete all text messages from her phone relating to the vehicle rental should have roused in her concerns and suspicions of him committing a serious crime. I’d say her having known that doesn’t bode in her favour in being completely out of further investigation proceedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Creosote Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Oh we have some very brave arm chair critics in here.....maybe you wouldn't be so brave if some of them hells angles came around for a vist....for you guys stuck in your passive holiday dream world theres been bikie wars going on in the land down under for some time lot of shoot em up drugs and all them other things associated with organized crime....oh boy its in your back yard now......stay inside at night guys.... Well don't know if the only news you read is TV but its front page stuff in AU cause the dead guy was a Hells Angle...and just about everything written about them seems true.... It's hell trying to get some angles right.... I saw a pic of him ....he the dead guy ...he wasn't in Pattaya on holidays i can assure you...seems the AU HA have spread there wings...and you guys were worried about the Russians. Errm...in fact, HA have been in TH for a long time. I am told they operate their clubhouse out of Pattaya, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I saw a pic of him ....he the dead guy ...he wasn't in Pattaya on holidays i can assure you...seems the AU HA have spread there wings...and you guys were worried about the Russians. Errm...in fact, HA have been in TH for a long time. I am told they operate their clubhouse out of Pattaya, too. It's not a secret. They've had a presence in Thailand for ages, show up at a lot of the various bike parties around the country and they do have a clubhouse in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Initial news said it was a black Toyota Vigo. If the security guards are that <deleted> colour blind then it could of been anyone. Clowns. It was night, hence black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starchild5 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 All these western countries and Australia have very lax laws on crime. You get slap in the wrist for most cases and no fear of death penalty. Now, these criminals are been exported to third world countries to set up their back up operation. The most wanted Indian gangstar Chota Rajan, responsible for over 100 murders was living in Australia blissfully for over seven years protected by its laws, he was only caught last month when he took a vacation in Bali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Someone has been murdered but the main issue seems to be the rental price of the pickup. Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I saw a pic of him ....he the dead guy ...he wasn't in Pattaya on holidays i can assure you...seems the AU HA have spread there wings...and you guys were worried about the Russians. Errm...in fact, HA have been in TH for a long time. I am told they operate their clubhouse out of Pattaya, too. It's not a secret. They've had a presence in Thailand for ages, show up at a lot of the various bike parties around the country and they do have a clubhouse in Pattaya. top of Soi Khao Noi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawan Chan 7 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I remember sitting in a pub one morning in Port Fairy Folk Festival when the Angels pulled up on their bikes. I said something like look at these idiots and the guy I was drinking with took off his jacket showing he was wearing their colours! Nice enough guy - took it in good humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fekman Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Bagnato telling his wife to delete all text messages from her phone relating to the vehicle rental should have roused in her concerns and suspicions of him committing a serious crime. I’d say her having known that doesn’t bode in her favour in being completely out of further investigation proceedings. True. In the Police State, she would probably be on the hook for 'aiding after the fact" or "impeding an investigation" or 'destruction of evidence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORRISGOODENUF Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Another dumb and dumber:grave marked by GPS!brilliant!! RIP poor victim. How can you say R.I.P when the A/hole created missery for all that came to meet him, or had the misfortune to come across him... In this country, kahma means somthing to most folk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Although I don't have a very high opinion of the RTP, I would never say that they are completely incompetent. This case supports that. So far anyway. Border security just tightened, but mafia drud bandits can come and go into Thailand. Maybe Thainess prevented them thinking that Australia operates international Italian mafia drug smuggling world wide with the help of the lebonese scum they let into australia. Look back at MR Asia to see that this was happening through asia and australia and NZ. The drug trade in australia is controlled through the Italian mafia with its branch of gangsters running the australian drug trade. This is only the scum off the top of the broth as to who else from the Mafia are dealing through LOS in the italian mafia drug trafficking. A good Australian documentary on aussie TV a few days ago which says that many politicians and police are controlled by the italian Mafia drug dealing scum. They obviously operate in LOS now Edited December 2, 2015 by kiwikeith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 He must be stupid if he thinks deleteing the text messages stops anyone from reading them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sead Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Oh we have some very brave arm chair critics in here.....maybe you wouldn't be so brave if some of them hells angles came around for a vist....for you guys stuck in your passive holiday dream world theres been bikie wars going on in the land down under for some time lot of shoot em up drugs and all them other things associated with organized crime....oh boy its in your back yard now......stay inside at night guys.... Well don't know if the only news you read is TV but its front page stuff in AU cause the dead guy was a Hells Angle...and just about everything written about them seems true.... Actually stupid comment from you. The day you join a gang is the day you are prepared to be a bad guy. I understand he wasnt a scout exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineofentry Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 5,000 includes shovel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiwill60 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 it should not even be news to start with. Can I even say that without fear of the Angles rocking up on my doorstep at 4am all dressed in black ? is that all 360 angles ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisandsu Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 An educated guess from experience would be , they started to export meth/ yaba from Thailand took too much of it themselves started getting paranoid , then shit unraveled fast !! It's the drug of choice for these guys and Australia has huge problems with it along with the USA and quite possibly the most destructive drug of all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dddave Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 The infamous "Rock Machine"-"Banditos" biker war in Canada during the '90's in which more than a hundred were killed showed just how viscous and out of control a biker war can get. Then there was the shootout between 3 gangs at a restaurant in Waco, Texas last year; 9 dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 THe last serious gang fight I rmember in the UK was years ago at the Glastonbury festival. The next year they had the festival and brought in the Paratroopers to be the security. Quite a few of the Hell's Angels ended up in hospital as a result. After that the event went off smoothly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 5000 baht a day?? that is either one expensive rental or the wife was cooking up a scam!! More likely lost in translation and 5.000 Baht for 5 days a regular price. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Oh we have some very brave arm chair critics in here.....maybe you wouldn't be so brave if some of them hells angles came around for a vist....for you guys stuck in your passive holiday dream world theres been bikie wars going on in the land down under for some time lot of shoot em up drugs and all them other things associated with organized crime....oh boy its in your back yard now......stay inside at night guys.... Well don't know if the only news you read is TV but its front page stuff in AU cause the dead guy was a Hells Angle...and just about everything written about them seems true.... It's hell trying to get some angles right.... Squares and angles, you mean the mason's might be involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Theirs something wrong with the rental price of that unremarkable truck. 1000 to 1500 per day is the going rate. This price includes a Thai driver !!! The price without a driver is 4 to 5 times a normal price in Pattaya. And "by the way". Who cares that some Hells Angel bites the dust? I am not related to such scum. Are you? The less, the better. Edited December 2, 2015 by FredNL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 THe last serious gang fight I rmember in the UK was years ago at the Glastonbury festival. The next year they had the festival and brought in the Paratroopers to be the security. Quite a few of the Hell's Angels ended up in hospital as a result. After that the event went off smoothly Heard there are a lot of Ex 2 PARA about Pattaya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Another dumb and dumber:grave marked by GPS!brilliant!! RIP poor victim. Victim appears to have been a piece of scum. No loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 American held over killing of AustralianTHE NATIONAGENCIESSA KAEW: -- Immigration Police yesterday apprehended an American who was suspected of being involved in the abduction and murder of an Australian former Hells Angels member in Chon Buri province, while he was about to cross the border into Cambodia.Tyler Joseph Fulton Sheen Gerard, 21, who had a right-arm wound and a leg injury, was apprehended as he resembled one of the kidnapper suspects and an initial police investigation was convinced of alleged links to the abduction case.After recording his name in the Immigration Police watch list, police asked for his cooperation to return to Pattaya for testimony and asked Pattaya Police to pick him up.Police are now looking for his four alleged accomplices, including Australian national Antonio Bagnato, 26, a chief suspect for whom an arrest warrant had been issued.It was reported that the victim and Bagnato had been out drinking together the night before the kidnap.Police have also apprehended for a Thai woman with an Australian husband, as she alledgedly rented the pick-up truck that was used in the abduction.Wayne Rodney Schneider, 37, was abducted at gunpoint from outside his house in Pattaya on Monday by a group of masked men, believed to be foreigners. His body was found in a shallow grave in Chon Buri's Sattahip district on Tuesday, police said."He was murdered. His body was buried 2 metres deep in a woodland area out of town," Pattaya Police commander Pol Colonel Sukthat Pumpanmuang said.He said five people were believed to be involved in the kidnap and murder. An autopsy would be carried out to determine the cause of Schneider's death, he added. The Australian had been in Thailand for around a month and had rented a house, putting down a Bt130,000 deposit for six months.The Sydney Morning Herald said Schneider had previously had run-ins with the law in his homeland, linked to his membership in the Hells Angels.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/American-held-over-killing-of-Australian-30274213.html-- The Nation 2015-12-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantern Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Tyler Joseph Fulton Sheen Gerard, 21 Wow only 21 he's got a lot of years to mull this over in the Hilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Freckle Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Good on the RTP et al...., they certainly like to keep their viewing audience updated ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 An American held by police under suspicion of involvement in an Aussie’s kidnap and murder in PattayaPATTAYA: -- An American was held in police custody under suspicion of involvement in the kidnap and murder of an Australian in Pattaya as he tried to cross the border into Cambodia through an immigration office in Sa Kaew province.The suspect, identified as Mr.Tyler Joseph Fulton Sheen Gerard, was being escorted by police back to Pattaya for interrogation.In Pattaya, in the meantime, police have sought an approval from Pattaya provincial court for an arrest warrant for an Australian identified as Antonio Beknato, on charges of assault and illegal detention depriving someone of his liberty.A Thai woman, Ms Priew (surname unknown), has been held in police custody under suspicion that she might be involved in the crime. Police said Ms Priew was instructed by her Australian boyfriend to rent a pickup truck from Mr Manop Yuanyee who operates a car rental service in central Pattaya.The truck was suspected to be used in the kidnap of Wayne Schneider. It was later found abandoned at Soi Kasetsin 5 on Khao Phra Tamnak, Pattaya South.The victim, Australian man identified as Wayne Schneider, 37, was kidnapped from of his house by a group of masked men. His body was found buried in the roadside bush in Tambon Na Chomthien, Sattahip district on Tuesday.Police on Wednesday searched a house on Phra Tamnak road in Bang Lamung district suspected to be the location where the victim was murdered to look for evidences which might be a clue on the murderers.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/video-an-american-held-by-police-under-suspicion-of-involvement-in-an-aussies-kidnap-and-murder-in-pattaya -- Thai PBS 2015-12-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Now the truck becomes more important than the dead guy, biker or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american12bthai Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 its amazing how fast things can go when thais smell the presence of large sums of cash. Disappointingly, they left with the money. (i presume they had money. why else?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Travolta Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Schneider paid for his house 130.000baht for 6 months . . . The only one coming out of this smiling is the landlady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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