UDD slams Thai govt for 'stalking Nuttawut'

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UDD slams govt for 'stalking Nuttawut'
THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- LEADERS of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) yesterday submitted a petition to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, calling on him to stop intimidating them, as some of them have been stalked 24 hours a day.

UDD leaders Thida Thavornseth said that after Jatuporn Promphan and Nuttawut Saikuar went to check the Rajabhakti Park graft allegation, security officials have stepped up checks on them by having plainclothes and uniformed officials stalk Nuttawut all day.

She said after the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) staged a coup last year, officials would drop by at Nuttawut's residence once a day. "The officials now follow Nuttawut's wife in a vehicle without a licence plate while she is dropping her kids to school. This is a gross human rights violation,'' Thida said.

She cited Article 44 of the interim charter 2014 that guarantees human rights. "Though there is also Article 44 [that gives the PM absolute power], please stop any actions that makes the country deemed lawless. Not only are all UDD leaders intimidated, even academics and members of public are,'' she said.

She defended the move by Jatuporn and Nuttawut to check graft allegations surrounding the construction of the park, saying both did it on a personal basis and not as UDD leaders. The accusation that more red shirts would have followed the two to the park was baseless, she added.

Weerakan Musikapong said stalking Nuttawut (whom Weerakan regards as "a kindergartener") was an overreaction. "General Prayut may not have instructed his subordinates to do this but his people think they can do anything to people whom their boss dislikes. This is a childish act,'' he said.

He called on the PM to punish officials who had stalked Nuttawut. "This is to ensure that this country upholds the rule of law,'' he said.

Government Spokesman Maj-General Sansern Kaewkamnerd said the government has tried to restore peace as well as ensure rights, liberty and equality.

"But it is impossible that the government would let some groups freely create chaos, instigate riots and disturb peace. Anyone who is sensible would not allow these actions,'' he said.

He called on UDD leaders to allow the country to move forward in peace and not to seek political advantage with their anti-government attacks.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/UDD-slams-govt-for-stalking-Nuttawut-30274290.html


-- The Nation 2015-12-04

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UDD demands the government to stop harassment of its leaders



BANGKOK: -- Core leaders of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship submitted petition addressed to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha demanding an end to what they charged as government’s harassment and violations of the basic rights of the people.

After handing over the petition to the public service centre at the Government House, the group, led by former UDD chair Mrs Thida Thavornseth, held a press conference to complain about the military detention of two UDD core leaders, Jatuporn Promphan and Natthawut Saikua, while they were on their way to visit the Rajabhakti Park in Hua Hin.

Mrs Thida defended that both Jatuporn and Natthawut, like any other individuals who are keen on the Rajabhakti park scandal, wanted to visit the park to find out the truth.

She said both have the right to visit the park but, however, they were harassed by the military who took them into custody. She went on saying that the military had kept a close monitoring of Natthawut and his family around the clock even though his wife was not involved in any political activities.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/udd-demands-the-government-to-stop-harassment-of-its-leaders


-- Thai PBS 2015-12-04

[metisdead]

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[tbthailand]

well, that's about all there is to say, ...

[trogers]

I wonder why the Thai government does not send someone to stalk my maid 24/7...

[Ricardo]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

[craigt3365]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

[SaamBaht]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

[craigt3365]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

The UDD were hardly innocent in all this. Let's stick to the topic.

[oneday]

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

[craigt3365]

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

We live in troubled times now. The head of UDD said the two red shirt leaders were just going to the park to pay a visit. Then the 2 red shirt leaders contradicted her by saying they were going there to investigate irregularities. They've been warned not to start trouble. Rightly or wrongly so....but history proves they do tend to stir things up....

[kinmaew]

A micro NK in action here and has always been just more transparent now.

[FangFerang]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

It was afterwards, and -- how many? --100 dead, including people in a Temple, several young children, and a Japanese reporter. Yellow sympathizers always have more selective memory than red sympathizers...because they have 17 coups and literally hundreds of deaths to forget about. I hate both sides for their deceptions and corruptions. One just wears silk more often.

[Eric Loh]

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

We live in troubled times now. The head of UDD said the two red shirt leaders were just going to the park to pay a visit. Then the 2 red shirt leaders contradicted her by saying they were going there to investigate irregularities. They've been warned not to start trouble. Rightly or wrongly so....but history proves they do tend to stir things up....

It's corruption that they are investigating. The irregularities were center of many controversies including the 300,000 B palm trees and kickbacks for the moulding of statues. Is that starting trouble? The PM talks about eradicating corruption and good check and balance. All should be able to discuss corruption without fear and intimidation.

[craigt3365]

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

We live in troubled times now. The head of UDD said the two red shirt leaders were just going to the park to pay a visit. Then the 2 red shirt leaders contradicted her by saying they were going there to investigate irregularities. They've been warned not to start trouble. Rightly or wrongly so....but history proves they do tend to stir things up....

It's corruption that they are investigating. The irregularities were center of many controversies including the 300,000 B palm trees and kickbacks for the moulding of statues. Is that starting trouble? The PM talks about eradicating corruption and good check and balance. All should be able to discuss corruption without fear and intimidation.

100% agreed! But not so sure that was the #1 reason for their visit to the park. Politics seem to get in the way of doing the right thing....worldwide!!! LOL

[jesimps]

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

We live in troubled times now. The head of UDD said the two red shirt leaders were just going to the park to pay a visit. Then the 2 red shirt leaders contradicted her by saying they were going there to investigate irregularities. They've been warned not to start trouble. Rightly or wrongly so....but history proves they do tend to stir things up....

It's corruption that they are investigating. The irregularities were center of many controversies including the 300,000 B palm trees and kickbacks for the moulding of statues. Is that starting trouble? The PM talks about eradicating corruption and good check and balance. All should be able to discuss corruption without fear and intimidation.

100% agreed! But not so sure that was the #1 reason for their visit to the park. Politics seem to get in the way of doing the right thing....worldwide!!! LOL

You seem to be suffering from a nasty case of 'assumption'. Of course there's no way that you assume there was foul play involved in the park project.

Just another cheerleader willing to put up with any old blx from the junta providing it's anti PTP.

Edited December 4, 2015 by jesimps

[craigt3365]

Never said there wasn't foul play in the project. Just said the intentions of the UDD leaders visiting the park might have had more to do with politics rather than uncovering facts.

Interesting comment from this article.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/875280-udd-leaders-held-as-their-aim-was-to-cause-confusion/

Sansern said that though the park was not a restricted area, the duo did not really have the authority to check on corruption allegations there. "If they really wanted to check on the alleged corruption, they should have looked at the documents.

If you are going to uncover corruption, it won't be by walking around the park. Right? It's in the paperwork.

[Bakseeda]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

It was afterwards, and -- how many? --100 dead, including people in a Temple, several young children, and a Japanese reporter. Yellow sympathizers always have more selective memory than red sympathizers...because they have 17 coups and literally hundreds of deaths to forget about. I hate both sides for their deceptions and corruptions. One just wears silk more often.

Hahaha, talk about selective memory FF... It was long before any shootings... and as we now know , that Japanese photographer was shot by "the men in black" who have now been arrested. And the Red Shirts at that demonstration were told that they were breaking the law, they were told many times by the government to stop holding Bangkok too ransom, and told repeatedly to go home or the troops would be sent in. And as the troops went in they were shot at by the same men in black and so , being soldiers, they returned fire. People got shot.. terrorists got shot, soldiers got shot, and lawbreakers who had been warned repeatedly to get off home, some of them got shot also. Those same Red Shirt supporters were being paid 500 bahts per day .. Blood money it turns out... Reap what you sow..!

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

you are terrorists, you have gotten away with it so far but hopefully you will all get what's coming to you. Being followed is the least of your worries. SUN NUM NA!!!

Being followed is NOT a gross human rights violation. Blowing up children with RPG's IS!!!

Having your leaders and followers celebrate their murders is just sick and disgusting!!!

Edited December 4, 2015 by ALLSEEINGEYE

[seajae]

considering both have had jail sentences against them but are still walking around on "bail" they are lucky they arent behind bars where they deserve to be for all the sh*t they have caused in thaksins name. The only pity is the p*ss poor legal system that allows convicted criminals to stay out of jail, doesnt matter who they are all convicted felons should be locked up not given bail because of who they are.

[klauskunkel]

Weerakan Musikapong said stalking Nuttawut (whom Weerakan regards as "a kindergartener")

So according to Musikapong, Nuttawut is either a child attending a kindergarten, or a kindergarten teacher...same, same, but different.

[Baerboxer]

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

We live in troubled times now. The head of UDD said the two red shirt leaders were just going to the park to pay a visit. Then the 2 red shirt leaders contradicted her by saying they were going there to investigate irregularities. They've been warned not to start trouble. Rightly or wrongly so....but history proves they do tend to stir things up....

It's corruption that they are investigating. The irregularities were center of many controversies including the 300,000 B palm trees and kickbacks for the moulding of statues. Is that starting trouble? The PM talks about eradicating corruption and good check and balance. All should be able to discuss corruption without fear and intimidation.

So it's o k for 2 out on bail for terrorism charges non democratic red shirt "leaders" to stir up trouble? Which they were doing prior to going with their comments.

But, of course anyone daring to discuss corruption during the PTP regime was threatened, intimidated, transferred and had Tharit the turncoat declare he would investigate them for breaking laws he had suddenly invented, with threats of draconian punishment.

How short the red memory is - who I forgot, they were elected so they could do what ever the wanted.

Maybe if Jat and Nat (sound like children's entertainers) are so civic and justice minded they'll press Yingluck and cousin number 1 to finally answer that long outstanding Ombudsman's question; or investigate the child tablet fiasco; or where several other budgets frittered away too under PTP rule. Course they won't, they were part of that trough gorging gang,

There only interest is themselves and scoring points against the opposition as they continue to try and con the people.

Maybe someone should investigate their wealth and any connections they have to companies associates with the rice scam.

Edited December 4, 2015 by Baerboxer

[craigt3365]

OK. Let's get back to the topic. This is about Nuttawut and the UDD. Current events.

[elgordo38]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

The UDD were hardly innocent in all this. Let's stick to the topic.

There is plenty of blame to go around to all parties.

[elgordo38]

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

We live in troubled times now. The head of UDD said the two red shirt leaders were just going to the park to pay a visit. Then the 2 red shirt leaders contradicted her by saying they were going there to investigate irregularities. They've been warned not to start trouble. Rightly or wrongly so....but history proves they do tend to stir things up....

History is an endless road do not cherry pick.

[skildpadden]

Of course the UDD is turning this into politics - I am pretty sure this was the aim all along. They are trying to find ways to get in the news to make themselves important. These people are promoting themselves and own interests - I do not trust them.

But the PR managing by the army was disastrous, and shows they are out touch with how things work in modern life. They should have allowed them to go to the park, made sure there was a guide with them all the time, arrange nice smiling photo-ops, then state something like the UDD liked the park very much and congratulated the army for a work well done - and it is clear that reconciliation is on track as UDD supporting the process and the projects undertaken by the army to bring happiness.....bla, bla..

All that being said if reconciliation is to take place, it means government must treat both sides equally fair (or unfair). It doesn't matter if someone causes public disturbance in Mahachai or in front of the US Embassy. You must provide a level playing field for all.

[MZurf]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

[craigt3365]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

[MZurf]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.

[tbthailand]

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits !

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

The UDD were hardly innocent in all this. Let's stick to the topic.

well, broadly speaking, the topic is the current self-appointed 'government' stalking people.

It's true that the UDD leaders are able to b!t.h about it and get in the news, but the military has been doing this across the board and with impunity for the last 20 months to anyone who doesn't agree with them - local activists who want to protect their communities, students who speak out, journalists who aren't lapdogs, ... The list goes on.

So, yeah, the UDD guys make the news, but what this junta is doing to them is commonplace.