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UDD slams Thai govt for 'stalking Nuttawut'

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Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.

No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence.

Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal

Corruption - yes as before but no worse

Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others

Massive increase in crime - a lie

Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration

SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T

Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks

The point about Jat & Nat is that they are not to play politics as a condition of their bail. I just love the sugar-coating of the anti-junta boyz that says that they just went to visit 'A Park'. They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO.

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Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????
Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.


No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence.
Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal
Corruption - yes as before but no worse
Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others
Massive increase in crime - a lie
Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration
SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T
Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks

The point about Jat & Nat is that they are not to play politics as a condition of their bail. I just love the sugar-coating of the anti-junta boyz that says that they just went to visit 'A Park'. They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO.



"No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence."
And here I though the yellows blocked the election because the majority would have voted for the wrong party. How silly of me!

"Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal"
I so wish they would have given you such a session, taking you away to an unknown location by hooded men and not knowing if or when they would let you out. I have a feeling the tough keyboard warrior would have definitively had an adjusted attitude.

"Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others"
OK, so that's alright then!

"Massive increase in crime - a lie"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Thailand

"Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration"
Huh? Is it a lie or not?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse_majesté_in_Thailand

"SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T"
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/thailand

"Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks"
I guess you don't follow the international news very closely, that much is clear from your post.

"They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO."
Yes, almost as lenient as the mad monk and his followers illegally protesting outside the US embassy.

There is plenty of blame to go around to all parties.

Exactly, as is said in another country:

"When you are cornered with a rabid dog on your left and another one on your right..

The only sure thing is, whichever side you go, you will need a vaccine"

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.

No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence.

Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal

Corruption - yes as before but no worse

Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others

Massive increase in crime - a lie

Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration

SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T

Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks

The point about Jat & Nat is that they are not to play politics as a condition of their bail. I just love the sugar-coating of the anti-junta boyz that says that they just went to visit 'A Park'. They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO.

"No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence."

And here I though the yellows blocked the election because the majority would have voted for the wrong party. How silly of me!

"Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal"

I so wish they would have given you such a session, taking you away to an unknown location by hooded men and not knowing if or when they would let you out. I have a feeling the tough keyboard warrior would have definitively had an adjusted attitude.

"Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others"

OK, so that's alright then!

"Massive increase in crime - a lie"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Thailand

"Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration"

Huh? Is it a lie or not?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse_majesté_in_Thailand

"SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T"

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/thailand

"Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks"

I guess you don't follow the international news very closely, that much is clear from your post.

"They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO."

Yes, almost as lenient as the mad monk and his followers illegally protesting outside the US embassy.

1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.

Be careful with anti government comments.


Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????
Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.


No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence.
Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal
Corruption - yes as before but no worse
Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others
Massive increase in crime - a lie
Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration
SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T
Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks

The point about Jat & Nat is that they are not to play politics as a condition of their bail. I just love the sugar-coating of the anti-junta boyz that says that they just went to visit 'A Park'. They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO.



"No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence."
And here I though the yellows blocked the election because the majority would have voted for the wrong party. How silly of me!

"Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal"
I so wish they would have given you such a session, taking you away to an unknown location by hooded men and not knowing if or when they would let you out. I have a feeling the tough keyboard warrior would have definitively had an adjusted attitude.

"Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others"
OK, so that's alright then!

"Massive increase in crime - a lie"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Thailand

"Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration"
Huh? Is it a lie or not?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse_majesté_in_Thailand

"SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T"
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/thailand

"Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks"
I guess you don't follow the international news very closely, that much is clear from your post.

"They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO."
Yes, almost as lenient as the mad monk and his followers illegally protesting outside the US embassy.


1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.


1. Gotta love the naivity!

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits ! wink.png

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

yes. and they are out on bail with restrictions. They should be under survelience by the army and police

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.

No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence.

Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal

Corruption - yes as before but no worse

Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others

Massive increase in crime - a lie

Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration

SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T

Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks

The point about Jat & Nat is that they are not to play politics as a condition of their bail. I just love the sugar-coating of the anti-junta boyz that says that they just went to visit 'A Park'. They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO.

"No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence."

And here I though the yellows blocked the election because the majority would have voted for the wrong party. How silly of me!

"Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal"

I so wish they would have given you such a session, taking you away to an unknown location by hooded men and not knowing if or when they would let you out. I have a feeling the tough keyboard warrior would have definitively had an adjusted attitude.

"Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others"

OK, so that's alright then!

"Massive increase in crime - a lie"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Thailand

"Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration"

Huh? Is it a lie or not?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse_majesté_in_Thailand

"SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T"

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/thailand

"Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks"

I guess you don't follow the international news very closely, that much is clear from your post.

"They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO."

Yes, almost as lenient as the mad monk and his followers illegally protesting outside the US embassy.

1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.

1. Gotta love the naivity!

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

1. Gotta love the naivity!

Yes you would love naivity & porkies too

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

Well it makes it better than grenades & guns & it's much the same stalking TV members as UDD thugs

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

Didn't miss it? Just ignored it for 'convenience' sake.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

Your favourite idiotic line, used when no argument.

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

Er no. My definition is standard while yours is misuse.

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

Maybe you have. But if true, your amnesiac & myopic abilities are faultless.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

Of course no one has heard of ASEAN countries, Japan, Korea, China, India etc - do you really have to continue to justify a stupid remark?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

I've already admitted that they should have been stopped, why risk a partial win by more stupid biased comments?

To reiterate, criticising the army or defending the worst elements of the UDD because of alleged stalking is 'massive' hypocrisy from you, a TV stalker.

To reiterat, criticing the army for again overthrowing an elected government is a civic duty. Sad that you cannot comprehend this.

Edited by MZurf

To reiterat, criticing the army for again overthrowing an elected government is a civic duty. Sad that you cannot comprehend this.

I'm sure your Hero of Thaksin medal is in the mail.

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.

No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence.

Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal

Corruption - yes as before but no worse

Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others

Massive increase in crime - a lie

Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration

SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T

Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks

The point about Jat & Nat is that they are not to play politics as a condition of their bail. I just love the sugar-coating of the anti-junta boyz that says that they just went to visit 'A Park'. They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO.

"No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence."

And here I though the yellows blocked the election because the majority would have voted for the wrong party. How silly of me!

"Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal"

I so wish they would have given you such a session, taking you away to an unknown location by hooded men and not knowing if or when they would let you out. I have a feeling the tough keyboard warrior would have definitively had an adjusted attitude.

"Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others"

OK, so that's alright then!

"Massive increase in crime - a lie"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Thailand

"Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration"

Huh? Is it a lie or not?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse_majesté_in_Thailand

"SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T"

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/thailand

"Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks"

I guess you don't follow the international news very closely, that much is clear from your post.

"They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO."

Yes, almost as lenient as the mad monk and his followers illegally protesting outside the US embassy.

thanks for the reply - as I read khunken's post, I wondered what planet he spent the last 20 months on...

To reiterat, criticing the army for again overthrowing an elected government is a civic duty. Sad that you cannot comprehend this.

I'm sure your Hero of Thaksin medal is in the mail.

yeah, not really.

Or did you forget that Thaksin was the one who ordered everyone to stand-down and make nice with the Generals...

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Isn't the present bunch supposed to be so much better?

We've had no burned buildings, no roads blocked in Bangkok, no protests with innocent people being killed. So I guess yes, based on that, things are much better!

We also have no elections, attitude adjustment sessions, still seemingly unchecked and rampant corruption, a tanking economy, a massive increase in crime, same for LM cases, severe limitations on the press, Thailand achieving near pariah status internationally, etc, etc.

No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence.

Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal

Corruption - yes as before but no worse

Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others

Massive increase in crime - a lie

Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration

SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T

Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks

The point about Jat & Nat is that they are not to play politics as a condition of their bail. I just love the sugar-coating of the anti-junta boyz that says that they just went to visit 'A Park'. They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO.

"No elections - yes, mainly because of UDD violence."

And here I though the yellows blocked the election because the majority would have voted for the wrong party. How silly of me!

"Attitude adjustment sessions - yes, big ffing deal"

I so wish they would have given you such a session, taking you away to an unknown location by hooded men and not knowing if or when they would let you out. I have a feeling the tough keyboard warrior would have definitively had an adjusted attitude.

"Tanking Economy - but better than Japan, EU, Singapore & others"

OK, so that's alright then!

"Massive increase in crime - a lie"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Thailand

"Same for LM - yes, an increase without needless exaggeration"

Huh? Is it a lie or not?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse_majesté_in_Thailand

"SEvere press limitations - again nothing severe or worse than under big T"

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2015/thailand

"Thailand a pariah - complete B0ll0cks"

I guess you don't follow the international news very closely, that much is clear from your post.

"They were obviously playing politics and have been treated very leniently IMO."

Yes, almost as lenient as the mad monk and his followers illegally protesting outside the US embassy.

1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.

1. Gotta love the naivity!

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

1. Gotta love the naivity!

Yes you would love naivity & porkies too

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

Well it makes it better than grenades & guns & it's much the same stalking TV members as UDD thugs

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

Didn't miss it? Just ignored it for 'convenience' sake.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

Your favourite idiotic line, used when no argument.

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

Er no. My definition is standard while yours is misuse.

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

Maybe you have. But if true, your amnesiac & myopic abilities are faultless.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

Of course no one has heard of ASEAN countries, Japan, Korea, China, India etc - do you really have to continue to justify a stupid remark?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

I've already admitted that they should have been stopped, why risk a partial win by more stupid biased comments?

To reiterate, criticising the army or defending the worst elements of the UDD because of alleged stalking is 'massive' hypocrisy from you, a TV stalker.

wow, you don't give up easily on defending this junta and their abuse of human rights, do you?

just a couple of points from your list,

yes there has been torture allegations, often. and unlawful detention is never ok, with or without torture.

yes, there has not only been a huge increase in LM cases, there have been the longest sentences ever in the history of Thailand handed down for LM, 58 and 60 years. They have also convicted and put in jail a mentally handicapped man for LM, how sweet is that?

Your not alone in trying to compare Thaksin's treatment of the press with this military junta's outright censorship and blunt threats - not to mention them calling journalists in for their AA sessions. There is no comparison...

Finally the crazy monk et al, they are under the same restrictions as the rest of the country aren't they? Ooops... guess not.

just a note regarding possible meanings of "massive"

According to iLaw, a local rights group that monitors such cases, there were just two ongoing prosecutions for royal defamation before the coup. Now that number is at least 56.

1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.

1. Gotta love the naivity!

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

1. Gotta love the naivity!

Yes you would love naivity & porkies too

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

Well it makes it better than grenades & guns & it's much the same stalking TV members as UDD thugs

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

Didn't miss it? Just ignored it for 'convenience' sake.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

Your favourite idiotic line, used when no argument.

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

Er no. My definition is standard while yours is misuse.

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

Maybe you have. But if true, your amnesiac & myopic abilities are faultless.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

Of course no one has heard of ASEAN countries, Japan, Korea, China, India etc - do you really have to continue to justify a stupid remark?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

I've already admitted that they should have been stopped, why risk a partial win by more stupid biased comments?

To reiterate, criticising the army or defending the worst elements of the UDD because of alleged stalking is 'massive' hypocrisy from you, a TV stalker.

wow, you don't give up easily on defending this junta and their abuse of human rights, do you?

just a couple of points from your list,

yes there has been torture allegations, often. and unlawful detention is never ok, with or without torture.

yes, there has not only been a huge increase in LM cases, there have been the longest sentences ever in the history of Thailand handed down for LM, 58 and 60 years. They have also convicted and put in jail a mentally handicapped man for LM, how sweet is that?

Your not alone in trying to compare Thaksin's treatment of the press with this military junta's outright censorship and blunt threats - not to mention them calling journalists in for their AA sessions. There is no comparison...

Finally the crazy monk et al, they are under the same restrictions as the rest of the country aren't they? Ooops... guess not.

I defend the junta when hypocritical Thaksin supporters go overboard in criticism for the sake of criticism, but there is one difference. I don't defend everything they do whereas diehard Thaksinists & UDD supporters cannot let their heros be blamed for anything.

Zurfie is a stalker just like the accusation in the thread & many of his two-faced comments need an answer.

I do not support LM and yes, i admit there are more LM cases by the junta but there's no need for 'massive' exaggeration. Of course you have to mention the monk too whereas I've already admitted that he shouldn't have been allow to protest - or did you bother to read that?

Two things are for sure: (1) there has been no 'massive' increase in crime - in fact probably no increase at all - only more reporting of it in the media - and the only increase deserving that term was when Thaksin turned his police into extrajudicial killers; (2) the media attacks were just as bad, if not worse, by Thaksin - he turned the Bangkok Post & the Nation into opponents by threatening them & unleashing his business pals in takeover attempts; he also sued at least one journalist and had another fired form the BP for reporting the truth & he took over ITV (now Thai PBS) to remove their reporting of his abuses.

Finally unlawful detention is never a good policy but it pales into significance in comparison to RTP 'lawful' detention and certainly to bombs & grenades. Your effort to use 'torture allegations' as an argument is typical of the half- & zero-truths beloved of UDD supporters.



1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.
1. Gotta love the naivity!

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?


1. Gotta love the naivity!
Yes you would love naivity & porkies too
2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.
Well it makes it better than grenades & guns & it's much the same stalking TV members as UDD thugs

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.
Didn't miss it? Just ignored it for 'convenience' sake.
4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!
Your favourite idiotic line, used when no argument.
5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?
Er no. My definition is standard while yours is misuse.

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.
Maybe you have. But if true, your amnesiac & myopic abilities are faultless.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?
Of course no one has heard of ASEAN countries, Japan, Korea, China, India etc - do you really have to continue to justify a stupid remark?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?
I've already admitted that they should have been stopped, why risk a partial win by more stupid biased comments?

To reiterate, criticising the army or defending the worst elements of the UDD because of alleged stalking is 'massive' hypocrisy from you, a TV stalker.

wow, you don't give up easily on defending this junta and their abuse of human rights, do you?

just a couple of points from your list,

yes there has been torture allegations, often. and unlawful detention is never ok, with or without torture.

yes, there has not only been a huge increase in LM cases, there have been the longest sentences ever in the history of Thailand handed down for LM, 58 and 60 years. They have also convicted and put in jail a mentally handicapped man for LM, how sweet is that?

Your not alone in trying to compare Thaksin's treatment of the press with this military junta's outright censorship and blunt threats - not to mention them calling journalists in for their AA sessions. There is no comparison...

Finally the crazy monk et al, they are under the same restrictions as the rest of the country aren't they? Ooops... guess not.


I defend the junta when hypocritical Thaksin supporters go overboard in criticism for the sake of criticism, but there is one difference. I don't defend everything they do whereas diehard Thaksinists & UDD supporters cannot let their heros be blamed for anything.

Zurfie is a stalker just like the accusation in the thread & many of his two-faced comments need an answer.

I do not support LM and yes, i admit there are more LM cases by the junta but there's no need for 'massive' exaggeration. Of course you have to mention the monk too whereas I've already admitted that he shouldn't have been allow to protest - or did you bother to read that?

Two things are for sure: (1) there has been no 'massive' increase in crime - in fact probably no increase at all - only more reporting of it in the media - and the only increase deserving that term was when Thaksin turned his police into extrajudicial killers; (2) the media attacks were just as bad, if not worse, by Thaksin - he turned the Bangkok Post & the Nation into opponents by threatening them & unleashing his business pals in takeover attempts; he also sued at least one journalist and had another fired form the BP for reporting the truth & he took over ITV (now Thai PBS) to remove their reporting of his abuses.

Finally unlawful detention is never a good policy but it pales into significance in comparison to RTP 'lawful' detention and certainly to bombs & grenades. Your effort to use 'torture allegations' as an argument is typical of the half- & zero-truths beloved of UDD supporters.


"I defend the junta when hypocritical Thaksin supporters go overboard in criticism for the sake of criticism..."
Maybe some Thaksin supporters do but for those of us who support neither side there is certainly much to criticize about the junta.

"....many of his two-faced comments need an answer."
Examples, please? Your "answers" makes as much sense as the ramblings of Uncle Too.

"Two things are for sure: (1) there has been no 'massive' increase in crime - in fact probably no increase at all - only more reporting of it in the media -"
Probably? Where do you get these "facts" from. Several news sources have reported an increase of up to 60%, but I guess you know better, right?

".. the media attacks were just as bad.."

No they weren't. Try looking Thailand's up press freedom rankings from 2006 and onwards.

"Finally unlawful detention is never a good policy but it pales into significance in comparison to RTP 'lawful' detention and certainly to bombs & grenades."

Well, that makes it alright then!

1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.

1. Gotta love the naivity!

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

1. Gotta love the naivity!

Yes you would love naivity & porkies too

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

Well it makes it better than grenades & guns & it's much the same stalking TV members as UDD thugs

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

Didn't miss it? Just ignored it for 'convenience' sake.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

Your favourite idiotic line, used when no argument.

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

Er no. My definition is standard while yours is misuse.

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

Maybe you have. But if true, your amnesiac & myopic abilities are faultless.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

Of course no one has heard of ASEAN countries, Japan, Korea, China, India etc - do you really have to continue to justify a stupid remark?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?

I've already admitted that they should have been stopped, why risk a partial win by more stupid biased comments?

To reiterate, criticising the army or defending the worst elements of the UDD because of alleged stalking is 'massive' hypocrisy from you, a TV stalker.

wow, you don't give up easily on defending this junta and their abuse of human rights, do you?

just a couple of points from your list,

yes there has been torture allegations, often. and unlawful detention is never ok, with or without torture.

yes, there has not only been a huge increase in LM cases, there have been the longest sentences ever in the history of Thailand handed down for LM, 58 and 60 years. They have also convicted and put in jail a mentally handicapped man for LM, how sweet is that?

Your not alone in trying to compare Thaksin's treatment of the press with this military junta's outright censorship and blunt threats - not to mention them calling journalists in for their AA sessions. There is no comparison...

Finally the crazy monk et al, they are under the same restrictions as the rest of the country aren't they? Ooops... guess not.

I defend the junta when hypocritical Thaksin supporters go overboard in criticism for the sake of criticism, but there is one difference. I don't defend everything they do whereas diehard Thaksinists & UDD supporters cannot let their heros be blamed for anything.

Zurfie is a stalker just like the accusation in the thread & many of his two-faced comments need an answer.

I do not support LM and yes, i admit there are more LM cases by the junta but there's no need for 'massive' exaggeration. Of course you have to mention the monk too whereas I've already admitted that he shouldn't have been allow to protest - or did you bother to read that?

Two things are for sure: (1) there has been no 'massive' increase in crime - in fact probably no increase at all - only more reporting of it in the media - and the only increase deserving that term was when Thaksin turned his police into extrajudicial killers; (2) the media attacks were just as bad, if not worse, by Thaksin - he turned the Bangkok Post & the Nation into opponents by threatening them & unleashing his business pals in takeover attempts; he also sued at least one journalist and had another fired form the BP for reporting the truth & he took over ITV (now Thai PBS) to remove their reporting of his abuses.

Finally unlawful detention is never a good policy but it pales into significance in comparison to RTP 'lawful' detention and certainly to bombs & grenades. Your effort to use 'torture allegations' as an argument is typical of the half- & zero-truths beloved of UDD supporters.

"I defend the junta when hypocritical Thaksin supporters go overboard in criticism for the sake of criticism..."

Maybe some Thaksin supporters do but for those of us who support neither side there is certainly much to criticize about the junta.

"....many of his two-faced comments need an answer."

Examples, please? Your "answers" makes as much sense as the ramblings of Uncle Too.

"Two things are for sure: (1) there has been no 'massive' increase in crime - in fact probably no increase at all - only more reporting of it in the media -"

Probably? Where do you get these "facts" from. Several news sources have reported an increase of up to 60%, but I guess you know better, right?

".. the media attacks were just as bad.."

No they weren't. Try looking Thailand's up press freedom rankings from 2006 and onwards.

"Finally unlawful detention is never a good policy but it pales into significance in comparison to RTP 'lawful' detention and certainly to bombs & grenades."

Well, that makes it alright then!

A few points before I withdraw from the stalking discussion, exacerbated by a stalker.

'Those of us who support neither side' is economical with the truth again. Another two-faced example.

I lived here through Thaksin's media attacks & I don't need any of your diversions from what happened.

You once again put words in my mouth 'Well, that makes it alright then!'. I never said that so it's another lie.

I'm happy to admit that many of the junta's actions are wrong but am prepared to judge them on their merits unlike you who has taken the mindless easy way of condemning everything without any question. The simple difference is between an open mind (mine) and a closed one (yours), the latter requiring much less thought. Carry on Up The Kyber, but stop stalking.

Following a mother and her two young kids into a school in an unmarked car is pure intimidation.

Regardless of what her husband has done, she is not a politician. The army also sent 40 of its finest to a children's birthday party last year photographing every car in the road and entering the house



1. The blocking of the election had nothing to do with the junta takeover - UDD violence did, so 'silly' is too mild.

2. Ah the tough keyboard warrior bs from a member who actually stalks other TV members (English John). The point you fail or refuse to get is that the attitude adjustment interviews are without torture or physical violence, unlike RTP 'interviews'.

3. No the economy is not 'alright' but again the point is that reduced GDP is an international phenomenon - have you missed that?.

4. There is an increase in the reporting of crime - certainly not massive. Now allowing the police to extrajudicially kill 2,500 citizens in 2003/4 would be massive.

5. There is an increase in LM cases - not that stupid exaggeration, massive.

6. You probably weren't here when Mr T went after the press & TV in a big way - so your ignorance can be forgiven.

7. Actually your knowledge of world economies and politics is shallow in the extreme. I know some hypocritical countries don't like the junta but to describe it as a pariah is just more exaggerated BS.

8. Yes, the monk & his followers should have been stopped but I don't think any of them were under a court's orders to refrain from politics.
1. Gotta love the naivity!

2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.

4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!

5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?


1. Gotta love the naivity!
Yes you would love naivity & porkies too
2. No physical torture? Well, that makes it OK then.
Well it makes it better than grenades & guns & it's much the same stalking TV members as UDD thugs

3. Nope, didn't miss it. And the effects of the global downturn has been made even worse by the bumbling junta.
Didn't miss it? Just ignored it for 'convenience' sake.
4. Yes, I know. It's all Thaksin's fault!
Your favourite idiotic line, used when no argument.
5. So your definition of the term massive is more valid than mine?
Er no. My definition is standard while yours is misuse.

6. I have probably been here a lot longer than you. That's why I'm being so patient. Do try to open the link I provided to save yourself from further embarrasment.
Maybe you have. But if true, your amnesiac & myopic abilities are faultless.

7. These days when the Thai "PM" is travelling he is only greeted warmly by countries few have even heard of. Still don't get it?
Of course no one has heard of ASEAN countries, Japan, Korea, China, India etc - do you really have to continue to justify a stupid remark?

8. No, they didn't have a court order forbidding them to dabble in politicts, just the law that says any gatherings of more than five people are not allowed. Funny how the yellows are exempt from that law, right?
I've already admitted that they should have been stopped, why risk a partial win by more stupid biased comments?

To reiterate, criticising the army or defending the worst elements of the UDD because of alleged stalking is 'massive' hypocrisy from you, a TV stalker.

wow, you don't give up easily on defending this junta and their abuse of human rights, do you?

just a couple of points from your list,

yes there has been torture allegations, often. and unlawful detention is never ok, with or without torture.

yes, there has not only been a huge increase in LM cases, there have been the longest sentences ever in the history of Thailand handed down for LM, 58 and 60 years. They have also convicted and put in jail a mentally handicapped man for LM, how sweet is that?

Your not alone in trying to compare Thaksin's treatment of the press with this military junta's outright censorship and blunt threats - not to mention them calling journalists in for their AA sessions. There is no comparison...

Finally the crazy monk et al, they are under the same restrictions as the rest of the country aren't they? Ooops... guess not.


I defend the junta when hypocritical Thaksin supporters go overboard in criticism for the sake of criticism, but there is one difference. I don't defend everything they do whereas diehard Thaksinists & UDD supporters cannot let their heros be blamed for anything.

Zurfie is a stalker just like the accusation in the thread & many of his two-faced comments need an answer.

I do not support LM and yes, i admit there are more LM cases by the junta but there's no need for 'massive' exaggeration. Of course you have to mention the monk too whereas I've already admitted that he shouldn't have been allow to protest - or did you bother to read that?

Two things are for sure: (1) there has been no 'massive' increase in crime - in fact probably no increase at all - only more reporting of it in the media - and the only increase deserving that term was when Thaksin turned his police into extrajudicial killers; (2) the media attacks were just as bad, if not worse, by Thaksin - he turned the Bangkok Post & the Nation into opponents by threatening them & unleashing his business pals in takeover attempts; he also sued at least one journalist and had another fired form the BP for reporting the truth & he took over ITV (now Thai PBS) to remove their reporting of his abuses.

Finally unlawful detention is never a good policy but it pales into significance in comparison to RTP 'lawful' detention and certainly to bombs & grenades. Your effort to use 'torture allegations' as an argument is typical of the half- & zero-truths beloved of UDD supporters.


"I defend the junta when hypocritical Thaksin supporters go overboard in criticism for the sake of criticism..."
Maybe some Thaksin supporters do but for those of us who support neither side there is certainly much to criticize about the junta.

"....many of his two-faced comments need an answer."
Examples, please? Your "answers" makes as much sense as the ramblings of Uncle Too.

"Two things are for sure: (1) there has been no 'massive' increase in crime - in fact probably no increase at all - only more reporting of it in the media -"
Probably? Where do you get these "facts" from. Several news sources have reported an increase of up to 60%, but I guess you know better, right?

".. the media attacks were just as bad.."

No they weren't. Try looking Thailand's up press freedom rankings from 2006 and onwards.

"Finally unlawful detention is never a good policy but it pales into significance in comparison to RTP 'lawful' detention and certainly to bombs & grenades."

Well, that makes it alright then!


A few points before I withdraw from the stalking discussion, exacerbated by a stalker.

'Those of us who support neither side' is economical with the truth again. Another two-faced example.

I lived here through Thaksin's media attacks & I don't need any of your diversions from what happened.

You once again put words in my mouth 'Well, that makes it alright then!'. I never said that so it's another lie.

I'm happy to admit that many of the junta's actions are wrong but am prepared to judge them on their merits unlike you who has taken the mindless easy way of condemning everything without any question. The simple difference is between an open mind (mine) and a closed one (yours), the latter requiring much less thought. Carry on Up The Kyber, but stop stalking.


" A few points before I withdraw from the stalking discussion, exacerbated by a stalker."

55555! YOU replied to MY post, not the other way around. Are you drunk???

" 'Those of us who support neither side' is economical with the truth again. Another two-faced example."

Huh? See above.

" You once again put words in my mouth 'Well, that makes it alright then!'. I never said that so it's another lie."

Never said you did, but you implied it. Again, see my first comment.

" I'm happy to admit that many of the junta's actions are wrong but am prepared to judge them on their merits..."

Me too, and what I see is an almost unbroken string of blunders and fiascos.

" ...unlike you who has taken the mindless easy way of condemning everything without any question."

On the contrary. I question everything they do, even the mere existance of a junta ruling the country.

" The simple difference is between an open mind (mine) and a closed one (yours), the latter requiring much less thought. Carry on Up The Kyber, but stop stalking."

Thank you for making my day brighter by providing so many hilarious comments:)
As to the stalking please see my first comment.

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits ! wink.png

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

It was afterwards, and -- how many? --100 dead, including people in a Temple, several young children, and a Japanese reporter. Yellow sympathizers always have more selective memory than red sympathizers...because they have 17 coups and literally hundreds of deaths to forget about. I hate both sides for their deceptions and corruptions. One just wears silk more often.

I don't hate anyone, but I dislike those who tell deliberate lies. No need to rewrite the past. You can still find the clip on youtube

Uploaded on May 21, 2010

WHO : Nattawut Saikua (Red Shirt Leader)

WHEN : January 27, 2010

WHERE : Khao Soi Dao, Chunburi province, Thailand

Hahaha, talk about selective memory FF... It was long before any shootings... and as we now know , that Japanese photographer was shot by "the men in black" who have now been arrested. And the Red Shirts at that demonstration were told that they were breaking the law, they were told many times by the government to stop holding Bangkok too ransom, and told repeatedly to go home or the troops would be sent in. And as the troops went in they were shot at by the same men in black and so , being soldiers, they returned fire. People got shot.. terrorists got shot, soldiers got shot, and lawbreakers who had been warned repeatedly to get off home, some of them got shot also. Those same Red Shirt supporters were being paid 500 bahts per day .. Blood money it turns out... Reap what you sow..!

Yet, they refused to interfere because they didn't want to take sides a few years later, when the other side was holding Bangkok for ransom. I don't think you should talk about selective memory when your own interpretation of the events seem to be pretty biased, or at best with complete lack of the ability to think for yourself.

Edited by Sirbergan

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

"Might" have done. No, what they did, as mentioned here and in thousands of other previous threads is fact, absolute fact.

Condone what? Has the current government asked the public to bring bottles to Bangkok to start fires to burn down the city?

Edited by scorecard

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

"Might" have done. No, what they did, as mentioned here and in thousands of other previous threads is fact, absolute fact.

Condone what? Has the current government asked the public to bring bottles to Bangkok to start fires to burn down the city?

Congrats, you just failed to comment his main point by picking on another detail you disagreed with and leave it at that. A great suppression technique of its own, to choose the points you felt like debunking and ignore the rest.

Edited by Sirbergan

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

"Might" have done. No, what they did, as mentioned here and in thousands of other previous threads is fact, absolute fact.

Condone what? Has the current government asked the public to bring bottles to Bangkok to start fires to burn down the city?

Congrats, you just failed to comment his main point by picking on another detail you disagreed with and leave it at that. A great suppression technique of its own, to choose the points you felt like debunking and ignore the rest.

Well that's my choice.

By th way, why don't you make the same comment about the several anti junta posters who do exactly the same thing many times every day?

What the UDD "MIGHT" have done in the past should not condone what the current government is doing NOW.

"Might" have done. No, what they did, as mentioned here and in thousands of other previous threads is fact, absolute fact.

Condone what? Has the current government asked the public to bring bottles to Bangkok to start fires to burn down the city?

Congrats, you just failed to comment his main point by picking on another detail you disagreed with and leave it at that. A great suppression technique of its own, to choose the points you felt like debunking and ignore the rest.

Well that's my choice.

By th way, why don't you make the same comment about the several anti junta posters who do exactly the same thing many times every day?

Ingenious! Exactly the same argument as in your previous post. Tell me, when you were a kid and did something wrong did the "but he did it first" ever work with your parents? No? Well, there is a reason for that.

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Girls girls girls settle down.. Ain't no reason to get all worked up and ruin your makeup.

Just settle this when you get to vote... Oh that's right you can't.. So vent your anger on a online forum then.. Carry on.

Just don't forget to make my dinner.

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Girls girls girls settle down.. Ain't no reason to get all worked up and ruin your makeup.

Just settle this when you get to vote... Oh that's right you can't.. So vent your anger on a online forum then.. Carry on.

Just don't forget to make my dinner.

The usual inane argument, people with no voting rights shouldn't bother to discuss anything at all. The irony of your post makes it hilarious, though ... great comedy if it was intentional.

But it's OK to try to intimidate judges, or pour blood over someone's gate, glad that the UDD made clear that there ARE limits ! wink.png

Wasn't the UDD the ones who stood on stage and asked red shirts to bring empty bottles so they could be filled with petrol to burn Bangkok to the ground????

Was that before or after the government started shooting at them?

It was afterwards, and -- how many? --100 dead, including people in a Temple, several young children, and a Japanese reporter. Yellow sympathizers always have more selective memory than red sympathizers...because they have 17 coups and literally hundreds of deaths to forget about. I hate both sides for their deceptions and corruptions. One just wears silk more often.

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