Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Sad ego tripMaybe your next one will be better. It's all about the journey, not the destination As the current holder of the Golden Festivus POTY Pole, I'm here to say it's actually about the DESTINATION. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 JT's hot and heavy on the polls/poles lately..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) JT's hot and heavy on the polls/poles lately..... Lately? In case you're wondering, that's a DISCO BALL on top of that fine Festivus Pole. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabricus Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 The flow of nominations has fizzled out ... innit. Drip. Drip. Drip. Good. Now someone who is good at that sort of thing can set up the poll based on the nominations received to date. Just take the first 20 from Sipi's list Interesting idea, but I fear the forum's rank and file might revolt. It could of course be argued that they're already revolting (and have been for many years), but that's another issue. Why don't you and General Village Farang work a little of your magic early next week. I'm sure you could easily put together twenty (20) suitable candidates. I think you must include NancyL and PatsyCat, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) How is it that those two random mere members are qualified to make that choice? Surely mere members have their own OPINIONATED personal biases and limited exposure to the breadth of the forum. How is that they were picked over other members to be the judges of such a momentous contest? If I was on that list and eliminated by some random mere members, I would have a hard time accepting that as a FAIR process. You know you watch the X factor and they have judges who eliminate people. Those judges have credibility and authority in the industry. Those cut might be angry and feel wronged, but they accept the AUTHORITY of the judges because they have something to back up their judgement. I don't see that kind of credibility in this proposed process. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Sad ego tripMaybe your next one will be better. It's all about the journey, not the destination As the current holder of the Golden Festivus POTY Pole, I'm here to say it's actually about the DESTINATION. festivus-pole-x750d.jpg You don't seem to have done much with your year on the top of the Christmas tree. I'm hoping for a poster of the year who will regale us with wit, wisdom, and above all, brevity to the point of reticence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 How is it that those two random mere members are qualified to make that choice? Surely mere members have their own OPINIONATED personal biases and limited exposure to the breadth of the forum. How is that they were picked over other members to be the judges of such a momentous contest? If I was on that list and eliminated by some random mere members, I would have a hard time accepting that as a FAIR process. You know you watch the X factor and they have judges who eliminate people. Those judges have credibility and authority in the industry. Those cut might be angry and feel wronged, but they accept the AUTHORITY of the judges because they have something to back up their judgement. I don't see that kind of credibility in this proposed process. Reading that, I agreed with Malcolm McLaren for the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabricus Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 How is it that those two random mere members are qualified to make that choice? Surely mere members have their own OPINIONATED personal biases and limited exposure to the breadth of the forum. How is that they were picked over other members to be the judges of such a momentous contest? If I was on that list and eliminated by some random mere members, I would have a hard time accepting that as a FAIR process. You know you watch the X factor and they have judges who eliminate people. Those judges have credibility and authority in the industry. Those cut might be angry and feel wronged, but they accept the AUTHORITY of the judges because they have something to back up their judgement. I don't see that kind of credibility in this proposed process. In terms of fairness, intellect and perceived credibility, the two FORUM ARISTOCRATS I named dwarf you. I need to be extremely careful at this point as I know about them and their college backgrounds; I also know the (former) occupation of one of the venerable gentlemen's fathers. I consider Mr Soi Eastwood and General VillageFarang perfect for the task I have recommended they embrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtramsbottom Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I nominate Dennis123 posts mainly on the pattaya forum,a bit of a nutter but i like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'm sure SC would agree the finest winner was tutsiwarrior who kept a low profile and such brevity he disappeared into the Betty Ford clinic by June and is still to this day losing the weight he gained from all those free after dinner speech events. This year is a shambles folks....embrace and bully the candidates and don't forget to change the rules halfway through etc. It's a Thai election....don't forget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Sad ego tripMaybe your next one will be better. It's all about the journey, not the destination As the current holder of the Golden Festivus POTY Pole, I'm here to say it's actually about the DESTINATION. festivus-pole-x750d.jpg You don't seem to have done much with your year on the top of the Christmas tree. I'm hoping for a poster of the year who will regale us with wit, wisdom, and above all, brevity to the point of reticence Respect the Pole. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) How is it that those two random mere members are qualified to make that choice? Surely mere members have their own OPINIONATED personal biases and limited exposure to the breadth of the forum. How is that they were picked over other members to be the judges of such a momentous contest? If I was on that list and eliminated by some random mere members, I would have a hard time accepting that as a FAIR process. You know you watch the X factor and they have judges who eliminate people. Those judges have credibility and authority in the industry. Those cut might be angry and feel wronged, but they accept the AUTHORITY of the judges because they have something to back up their judgement. I don't see that kind of credibility in this proposed process. Reading that, I agreed with Malcolm McLaren for the first time Agreed with what: ??? "Better a spectacular failure, than a benign success," One of the big digs at the contest in the past was that it was being run as an insiders OLD BOY'S CLUB type deal. I thought that would be better changed, once and for all. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 How is it that those two random mere members are qualified to make that choice? Surely mere members have their own OPINIONATED personal biases and limited exposure to the breadth of the forum. How is that they were picked over other members to be the judges of such a momentous contest? If I was on that list and eliminated by some random mere members, I would have a hard time accepting that as a FAIR process. You know you watch the X factor and they have judges who eliminate people. Those judges have credibility and authority in the industry. Those cut might be angry and feel wronged, but they accept the AUTHORITY of the judges because they have something to back up their judgement. I don't see that kind of credibility in this proposed process. Reading that, I agreed with Malcolm McLaren for the first time One of the big digs at the contest in the past was that it was being run as an insiders OLD BOY'S CLUB type deal. I thought that would be better changed, once and for all. To a relative newbie running it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) How is it that those two random mere members are qualified to make that choice? Surely mere members have their own OPINIONATED personal biases and limited exposure to the breadth of the forum. How is that they were picked over other members to be the judges of such a momentous contest? If I was on that list and eliminated by some random mere members, I would have a hard time accepting that as a FAIR process. You know you watch the X factor and they have judges who eliminate people. Those judges have credibility and authority in the industry. Those cut might be angry and feel wronged, but they accept the AUTHORITY of the judges because they have something to back up their judgement. I don't see that kind of credibility in this proposed process. Reading that, I agreed with Malcolm McLaren for the first time One of the big digs at the contest in the past was that it was being run as an insiders OLD BOY'S CLUB type deal.I thought that would be better changed, once and for all. Terrible slur that is.I always ran the contest fairly....one member one vote and as much behind the scenes free beer as my poor liver could handle. Edited December 12, 2015 by smokie36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'll put the poll up (can I say that on the internet?) some time after 10 pm Thai time on Sunday, if no-one else has done it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'll put the poll up (can I say that on the internet?) some time after 10 pm Thai time on Sunday, if no-one else has done it before. Take charge I said...not squeak like a gerbil waiting in line for the wheel. I bet Tom Jones would have this one nailed...he certainly impressed me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) How is it that those two random mere members are qualified to make that choice? Surely mere members have their own OPINIONATED personal biases and limited exposure to the breadth of the forum. How is that they were picked over other members to be the judges of such a momentous contest? If I was on that list and eliminated by some random mere members, I would have a hard time accepting that as a FAIR process. You know you watch the X factor and they have judges who eliminate people. Those judges have credibility and authority in the industry. Those cut might be angry and feel wronged, but they accept the AUTHORITY of the judges because they have something to back up their judgement. I don't see that kind of credibility in this proposed process. Reading that, I agreed with Malcolm McLaren for the first time One of the big digs at the contest in the past was that it was being run as an insiders OLD BOY'S CLUB type deal.I thought that would be better changed, once and for all. Terrible slur that is.I always ran the contest fairly....one member one vote and as much behind the scenes free beer as my poor liver could handle. Not going there. The past is the past. It's well known strange stuff happened in previous years on different levels ... what's done is done. The issue I obviously raised this time was the pruning process. I don't think the names that were presented as those with the power to eliminate people really command that kind of authority. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Well JT to assist the process I'll say I always chose pretty much the first ten/twenty on the list who were in my view likeliest to be serious candidates. Even Morch made my list which doesn't look like happening this year. Go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) The process of pruning was hidden before. It was more like acting like it didn't even happen. Some of those pruned complained about it and questioned the validity of the entire contest based on that, and they had a good point. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 You have about twenty hours. I don't want to do it, but it's a Nike moment... I don't think anyone cares who's on the short list, so long as it includes the winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 You have about twenty hours. I don't want to do it, but it's a Nike moment... I don't think anyone cares who's on the short list, so long as it includes the winner Of course it will include the winner. If you're not on the list, it's game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtramsbottom Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Get to the voting ,this is way to cordial for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Get to the voting ,this is way to cordial for my liking. I knew my years of Martial law were appreciated somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Get to the voting ,this is way to cordial for my liking.I knew my years of Martial law were appreciated somewhere.Martial Law or Marital Law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Get to the voting ,this is way to cordial for my liking.I knew my years of Martial law were appreciated somewhere.Martial Law or Marital Law? God forbid...I turned athiest in protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsycat Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Sheryl deserves to win this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Sheryl deserves to win this year.Maybe I'll put her as the only nominee on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 It's already been determined that mods are ineligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabricus Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't want to do it, but it's a Nike moment... I don't think anyone cares who's on the short list, so long as it includes the winner Good luck, and go for it. I'll leave you to it and won't contribute to this thread again. === IMPORTANT POTY 2015 ANNOUNCEMENT Mr Soi Eastwood (sometimes crudely referred to as Street Cowboy) is now in control of this thread. I leave it to him and his erstwhile colleague, General VillageFarang, to steer this mighty Titanic to a safe and happy landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I see. Just so that process is transparent, what appears to be happening here (correct me if I'm wrong), is that two random members selected by the OP by his own authority, one with a certain "reputation" from previous contests (the other rather unknown on the wider forum) are going to be in charge of eliminating nominees for the contest. I assume they won't be stating their criteria for this elimination. Just trying to keep this real so that people understand how the voting list comes to be. I feel in previous years there was way too much stealth in explaining the process. No process is perfect but this is a voting contest so people deserve to know the ground rules or LACK thereof. Edited December 12, 2015 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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