Need lawyer specialized in dealing with International schools/bangkok

[Paul2k99]

Hi everyone I need a lawyer that know about laws for international schools since the headmaster of my kid want to kick him out for a small reason , without even talk with us previously of her decision, any recommendation of lawyer specialised in that area?

REgards

[Gutenberg]

Mind to disclose school?

[kannot]

mind to disclose "small incident"

[konying]

Lawyer would be wrong person to involve.

Ministry of education would be the correct department , but you can start from local amphur.

So if you in Pattaya , first contact city of Pattaya , if that fails , up to Chonburi and then Bangkok .

More than often they looking for a " donation " , I mean the school and be prepared school will lie and have witnesses . Ignore and keep on going up the ladder

[Paul2k99]

yeah I was thinking Ministry of education that is the body who regulates schools here, but I want to have a lawyer also, and small incident was he use bad words, in front of other kids and teachers. after that he apologise but the situation repeat a couple of times, but never ask us a meeting to deal with that.

thank you anyway

[konying]

yeah I was thinking Ministry of education that is the body who regulates schools here, but I want to have a lawyer also, and small incident was he use bad words, in front of other kids and teachers. after that he apologise but the situation repeat a couple of times, but never ask us a meeting to deal with that.

thank you anyway

Again it's up to you, but no lawyer is needed, not to mention no law has been broken or will be broken. This is more of an internal manner best dealt with by you, school and relevant agency.

[blackcab]

The chances are the international school will be a private business. As such it can choose to accept your custom, or not. You can't force people to take your money.

To be fair, most businesses don't turn away good money without a reason.

A suggestion might be to spend your time, effort and money teaching your son appropriate behaviour and good manners.

Taking legal action against the school is the wrong thinking.

[Happy Grumpy]

Give the kid a good few slaps.

Then start again.

[Singerman]

Badly behaved , rude, disobedient children are routinely suspended/expelled from British public (private) schools.

I have never heard of a lawyer being involved with such cases !

Teach the child what is and what is not acceptable behavior and find another school .

[konying]

The chances are the international school will be a private business. As such it can choose to accept your custom, or not. You can't force people to take your money.

To be fair, most businesses don't turn away good money without a reason.

A suggestion might be to spend your time, effort and money teaching your son appropriate behaviour and good manners.

Taking legal action against the school is the wrong thinking.

In fairness to OP he did say school never informed him of kids behavior, so rather unfair to blame OP for not taking any action, he was not aware.

In my opinion,school should have contacted the parents after the first incident for parents to address the issue, but i am guessing with mai ben rai attitude, they let it go, for kid to act out again and again to a point where possibly someone has complained.

May be that someone is a bigger donor or holds high enough position for headmaster to make this kind of decision, which is rather unfair to OP and his kid.

I believe getting town hall involved and climbing up the ladder may fix the problem.

On the one hand since there is a conflict changing schools would appear to be the best choice of actions, however it is not in kids best interest,as the kid has friends etc.

Going to a new school is pretty stressful( this i know having to a change school a number of times, because of parents moving) eventually i ended up with hardly any friends by the school end as there was no time to make close relationships.

Sometimes, it could be as simple as headmaster looking for a handout in her/his pocket. I do not have personal experience with that in Thailand as i do not have any kids, but many of my friends and staff do and i hear its fairly common practice to threaten with expulsion unless some money was paid.

[NanLaew]

Despite the school not informing him, the OP does know what the issue is. Also, the school only wants to kick the kid out and he hasn't actually been expelled yet so absolutely no need to escalate with amphurs, educational regulators or lawyers IMHO.

First, totally sort out the problem with your kid or else you're on a hiding for nothing.

Then arrange a meeting with the head of the school, possibly with the attendance of the kids principal teachers and the kid and make serious amends with the head teacher, relevant staff AND THE KID with all parties 100% agreed that based on the "3 strikes and you are out" premise, any single recurrence of foul-mouthed gobbing off will be grounds for the kid to be expelled. If at all possible, get the agreement in writing and signed.

In the meantime, start looking for another school (if you haven't started already).

Oh yes.... and get some soap.

Good luck!

[Singerman]

Despite the school not informing him, the OP does know what the issue is. Also, the school only wants to kick the kid out and he hasn't actually been expelled yet so absolutely no need to escalate with amphurs, educational regulators or lawyers IMHO.

First, totally sort out the problem with your kid or else you're on a hiding for nothing.

Then arrange a meeting with the head of the school, possibly with the attendance of the kids principal teachers and the kid and make serious amends with the head teacher, relevant staff AND THE KID with all parties 100% agreed that based on the "3 strikes and you are out" premise, any single recurrence of foul-mouthed gobbing off will be grounds for the kid to be expelled. If at all possible, get the agreement in writing and signed.

In the meantime, start looking for another school (if you haven't started already).

Oh yes.... and get some soap.

Good luck!

+1

[Laughing Gravy]

International schools are private schools and in most instances businesses. Just like hotels if they don't want a guest in their hotel they can refuse them and ask them to leave. It is not a given right that your child can stay at the school as it is not a state run school. Also if it was me and you are not happy I would take your business elsewhere, as there are lots of competitors willing to take new pupils on.

[seajae]

kids have a tendency to repeat or mimic what they see/hear at home, if he is using bad language them maybe you or your wife/partner need to watch what you say at home in front of him. Also letting him know that he is wrong wouldnt go astray, kids will do what they think they can get away with, if he isnt being pulled up at home for being a little bugger then the problem is with his parents, kids need discipline and to be taught manners as well as respect for others. Its not nice when your child is threatened with being kicked out of school but to blame the school when it is obviously your child thats the cause of it is a bit simplistic. Sort the kid out quick smart, letting him get away with his attitude helps no one, if his parents refuse to do anything about it other than threaten legal action it gets no where, the kid needs his arse kicked in no uncertain terms and to be shown he cannot do as he pleases.

[Paul2k99]

Thanks for all answers , basically the main point is he will lose all his friends and we think that there should be a chance they can give us like a previous meeting with headmaster and then warning us that if that not change he will be kicked out.

Yes is a private school but someone can protect children rights about losing school , and btw the headmaster start 5 months ago!.

[ghworker2010]

its duly noted that OP didn't reveal specifics of the incident. One would presume that he fully knows the circumstances by now. Please share with us

[CharlieH]

Might assist if you gave an area ? hardly any point recommending a lawyer in Phuket if you are in Udon Thani.

[MJCM]

Might assist if you gave an area ? hardly any point recommending a lawyer in Phuket if you are in Udon Thani.

Topic title gives it away. Bangkok !

[beano2274]

is the wife of the OP Thai? Maybe she was informed about it but swept it under the carpet, and did not inform her husband about previous warnings, now it has come to light as the child will be expelled.

[rocketboybkk]

yeah I was thinking Ministry of education that is the body who regulates schools here, but I want to have a lawyer also, and small incident was he use bad words, in front of other kids and teachers. after that he apologise but the situation repeat a couple of times, but never ask us a meeting to deal with that.

thank you anyway

Sounds like the kid needs his mouth washed out with soap.

How old is child?

Bad language is usually picked up from the home environment

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[blackcab]

Thanks for all answers , basically the main point is he will lose all his friends and we think that there should be a chance they can give us like a previous meeting with headmaster and then warning us that if that not change he will be kicked out.

Yes is a private school but someone can protect children rights about losing school , and btw the headmaster start 5 months ago!.

Yes he will lose his friends, but equally he will learn there are consequences for repeatedly doing the wrong thing. Clearly, he doesn't understand that now.

In terms of a child's right to be accepted into an international school - there is no right. Assuming he is Thai, his only right is to be educated at a state school.

Clearly, the headmaster is not putting up with bad behaviour. He might have started 5 months ago, but I doubt he started his teaching career 5 months ago.

[cyberfarang]

yeah I was thinking Ministry of education that is the body who regulates schools here, but I want to have a lawyer also, and small incident was he use bad words, in front of other kids and teachers. after that he apologise but the situation repeat a couple of times, but never ask us a meeting to deal with that.

thank you anyway

If an international school that most rely on good reputations, good results where parents pay high fees decided to expel one of it`s pupils, then it must have been for something very serious, not just for a few bad words.

Must be a lot more to this then what you`re saying.

[FritsSikkink]

forget the issue with the school, teach your kid some manners and go to another school so he can have a fresh start

[mmh8]

simple, find the bit in thai law about racism not being tolerated, then begin your legal proceedings. then start to speak with headmaster.

or just pay forantoyher school.

[Alration]

Thanks for all answers , basically the main point is he will lose all his friends and we think that there should be a chance they can give us like a previous meeting with headmaster and then warning us that if that not change he will be kicked out.

Yes is a private school but someone can protect children rights about losing school , and btw the headmaster start 5 months ago!.

You're being a bit hypocritical here, the school is protecting the other pupils right not to have to put up with swearing from your child. There are no children's rights about being retained at a private school particularly when they are a bad influence on other pupils.

[MrJohnson]

Any half decent school should have protocols in place to deal with behavioral issues such as swearing, bullying or whatever. These are typically a verbal warning, written warning, suspension and then expulsion. It seems unlikely they would have leapt straight to expulsion. Regardless of that it would be smart to contact the Ministry of Education and even perhaps The International Schools Association of Thailand. There is probably some code of conduct to be followed. Just a thought.

[Prbkk]

Thanks for all answers , basically the main point is he will lose all his friends and we think that there should be a chance they can give us like a previous meeting with headmaster and then warning us that if that not change he will be kicked out.

Yes is a private school but someone can protect children rights about losing school , and btw the headmaster start 5 months ago!.

Arbitrary expulsion is very harsh for matters such as these. Negotiate in good faith with the HM. If it's an International School, affiliated, they should have clearly defined policies covering these circumstances.