Cant be soon enough for me I will certainly vote for get out . I never voted to join in the first place

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nontabury: By the way steveni, where do you come from?

stevenl: @ nontabury, if you look at my username you'll see my nationality.

nontabury: Just say your nationality,or are you ashamed of it?

Reminds me of a discussion about visa requirements, when a very opiniated poster asked: "what is Schengen"?

Anyway dear nontabury, I will give you a hint: Heineken.

(no, that is not a country, keep thinking hard)

People wanting to exit are living in the past.

And not everything was better then, and the glory days of the HK are gone, never to return.

They're much, much better of in the EU and also the EU is much better of with GB in.

Of course the EU is better off with the UK as a member, by £50million per day for a start. The laws and rules of the EU are followed to the letter by the UK, all the other members pick and choose those they believe suit them best. We are restricted in our trade with the rest of the world by membership of the EU, outside we can trade with whomever we decide is best for Britain.. And please don't say we will lose trade from the EU because of a Brexit, they need us more then we need them.

You realise people in other EU countries are thinking the same? The laws of the EU are followed to the letter by e.g. Germany while everybody else picks and chooses? We are restricted by the EU, etc.

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nontabury: By the way steveni, where do you come from?

stevenl: @ nontabury, if you look at my username you'll see my nationality.

nontabury: Just say your nationality,or are you ashamed of it?

Reminds me of a discussion about visa requirements, when a very opiniated poster asked: "what is Schengen"?

Anyway dear nontabury, I will give you a hint: Heineken.

(no, that is not a country, keep thinking hard)

My country of origin is totally irrelevant. But yes, I'm Dutch.

Edited December 20, 201510 yr by stevenl

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nontabury: By the way steveni, where do you come from?

stevenl: @ nontabury, if you look at my username you'll see my nationality.

nontabury: Just say your nationality,or are you ashamed of it?

Reminds me of a discussion about visa requirements, when a very opiniated poster asked: "what is Schengen"?

Anyway dear nontabury, I will give you a hint: Heineken.

(no, that is not a country, keep thinking hard)

My country of origin is totally irrelevant

Yes of course it is irrelevant in this discussion.

But you seem to have overestimated nontabury.

Cause the Dutch want Britain to stay they are such a soft touch at giving money away,they [Dutch] dont care if the poor E.U. members leave. Dumb Britain still gives millions to India so they can buy Car Factories and anything else cheap in England. Man Up, and piss Invaders and E.U leaches off England before its to late..

Who would the British blame for all their perceived woes and problems if they left the EU.They would just turn on themselves.No European football lads.

As I originally understood it the UK never really entered the EU fully anyway (I admit my politics on this issue is weak) as the Euro currency wasn't accepted. From what I read in the papers and saw on TV there was always some argument about the UK fully accepting this & that which gave me the impression that the UK was sitting on the fence ready to go either way. Having been out of the UK for 20 years perhaps my knowledge on the issue is lacking but from EU problems in recent years the EU really hasn't functioned anywhere near what the idea was meant to be. So I would agree with other posters that it's time to leave.

What a great thread.

The EU is just one of the legs of world govt, which is unelected and answerable to Globalist banks and corporations, run by technocrats. More govt. is not the answer.

What a great thread.

Agreed, it is a great thread.

I'm a Yank and I am just sitting back reading the Brits and Continentals go at it.

I personally don't give a tinker's dam what the UK does, but if it starts another world war, don't expect any assistance from across the pond...for either side.

What a great thread.

Agreed, it is a great thread.

I'm a Yank and I am just sitting back reading the Brits and Continentals go at it.

I personally don't give a tinker's dam what the UK does, but if it starts another world war, don't expect any assistance from across the pond...for either side.

Brits and continentals going at it? Where?

The Tories, who swept to victory in the election, are in favour of Britain staying in. They will engineer the very best case to convince the houseowners and conservatives with a small c, if indeed they need any convincing,that it is in their best interests to stay in and the timing will be the very best for that eventuality. The election result, when so many pundits called it much closer, is a key indicator of the conservatism in the United Kingdom. Despite the rhetoric of the left, the public do not wish much change. For those who think it is a fifty fifty call I beg to differ. Look at the betting markets. Betfair are trading at 1.59 stay in 2.66 out or around 4-7 to 7-4. In my opinion a bet on remaining in at well over 50% of your stake, even if the referendum is several years away, is a very sound investment indeed. They will stay in just as Scotland stayed in the UK. Britain's conservatism and the Conservative party will see to that.

What a great thread.

Agreed, it is a great thread.

I'm a Yank and I am just sitting back reading the Brits and Continentals go at it.

I personally don't give a tinker's dam what the UK does, but if it starts another world war, don't expect any assistance from across the pond...for either side.

The EU is the largest economy in the world. I do think the UK needs to be part of that union.

Just keep kidding yourself that we needed your help now or ever; we do enjoy you fantasy movies though - it is the one thing you are good at.

One word sums it up - out. OUT! OUT!

The Tories, who swept to victory in the election, are in favour of Britain staying in. They will engineer the very best case to convince the houseowners and conservatives with a small c, if indeed they need any convincing,that it is in their best interests to stay in and the timing will be the very best for that eventuality. The election result, when so many pundits called it much closer, is a key indicator of the conservatism in the United Kingdom. Despite the rhetoric of the left, the public do not wish much change. For those who think it is a fifty fifty call I beg to differ. Look at the betting markets. Betfair are trading at 1.59 stay in 2.66 out or around 4-7 to 7-4. In my opinion a bet on remaining in at well over 50% of your stake, even if the referendum is several years away, is a very sound investment indeed. They will stay in just as Scotland stayed in the UK. Britain's conservatism and the Conservative party will see to that.

The Tories are not in favour of staying in. The very reason we are having a referendum is because of strong vocal group of Eurosceptics in the Tory party. Tory central office will not be used to campaign for an "in" vote. The duplicitous count Hameron is playing a very dangerous game.. The "out" vote is gaining momentum, and is likely to increase in the next 18 months.. only a fool would call it now.

The idea that the election as an indicator of conservatism in the UK is risible in itself.

24% of the electorate voted conservative. Less than 37% of those that actually voted were Tory votes.

Its indicative of a broken democracy, that's what it is .

Tories hold a very thin majority; with natural attrition rates they'll be lucky to sustain that until 2020. The EU referendum is sure to cause backbench rebellion and we can look forward to some interesting times in the next 18 months.

What a great thread.

Agreed, it is a great thread.

I'm a Yank and I am just sitting back reading the Brits and Continentals go at it.

I personally don't give a tinker's dam what the UK does, but if it starts another world war, don't expect any assistance from across the pond...for either side.

The EU is the largest economy in the world. I do think the UK needs to be part of that union.

Just keep kidding yourself that we needed your help now or ever; we do enjoy you fantasy movies though - it is the one thing you are good at.

Oh goody, the revisionists have arrived.

What a great thread.

Agreed, it is a great thread.

I'm a Yank and I am just sitting back reading the Brits and Continentals go at it.

I personally don't give a tinker's dam what the UK does, but if it starts another world war, don't expect any assistance from across the pond...for either side.

The EU is the largest economy in the world. I do think the UK needs to be part of that union.

Just keep kidding yourself that we needed your help now or ever; we do enjoy you fantasy movies though - it is the one thing you are good at.

Oh goody, the revisionists have arrived.

Awww, you sound like you have a hurty.. bless.

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nontabury: By the way steveni, where do you come from?

stevenl: @ nontabury, if you look at my username you'll see my nationality.

nontabury: Just say your nationality,or are you ashamed of it?

Reminds me of a discussion about visa requirements, when a very opiniated poster asked: "what is Schengen"?

Anyway dear nontabury, I will give you a hint: Heineken.

(no, that is not a country, keep thinking hard)

My country of origin is totally irrelevant. But yes, I'm Dutch.

Your nationality is relevant as you will not be voting on this issue, however if the UK does decide to leave, that will mean a few other countries will have to make up the financial loss of the UK contributions. One of those few countries will be Holland, and as you know there is a growing number of the Dutch people who already want out.

If this Poll is anywhere valid Cameron has a massive problem,compared with the Poll a few days ago,as reported on Thai Visa of 50 50 %.

Agreed, it is a great thread.

I'm a Yank and I am just sitting back reading the Brits and Continentals go at it.

I personally don't give a tinker's dam what the UK does, but if it starts another world war, don't expect any assistance from across the pond...for either side.

The EU is the largest economy in the world. I do think the UK needs to be part of that union.

Just keep kidding yourself that we needed your help now or ever; we do enjoy you fantasy movies though - it is the one thing you are good at.

Oh goody, the revisionists have arrived.

Awww, you sound like you have a hurty.. bless.

correction: Delusional revisionist has arrived.

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nontabury: By the way steveni, where do you come from?

stevenl: @ nontabury, if you look at my username you'll see my nationality.

nontabury: Just say your nationality,or are you ashamed of it?

Reminds me of a discussion about visa requirements, when a very opiniated poster asked: "what is Schengen"?

Anyway dear nontabury, I will give you a hint: Heineken.

(no, that is not a country, keep thinking hard)

My country of origin is totally irrelevant. But yes, I'm Dutch.

Your nationality is relevant as you will not be voting on this issue, however if the UK does decide to leave, that will mean a few other countries will have to make up the financial loss of the UK contributions. One of those few countries will be Holland, and as you know there is a growing number of the Dutch people who already want out.

Nice story, does not make my nationally relevant.

People wanting to exit are living in the past.

And not everything was better then, and the glory days of the HK are gone, never to return.

They're much, much better of in the EU and also the EU is much better of with GB in.

So we should stay in a corrupt organisation that has not even audited it's accounts for 20 yrs. governed by non elected bureaucrats who govern to their wishes and not the people's, continue to relinquish control of who to allow into the UK,need I go on.

By the way steveni, where do you come from?

Certainly not the UK anyway, What does StevenL know about the UK? Nothing, going by such nonsensical comments.

Jeez, so typically ignorant as in its just so obvious how could anyone.possibly see things differently from me.

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I cannot believe that half of British people want to STAY in the eu...

We were never given the choice to enter the old common market..The traitor Heath [probably blackmailed] put Britain in for one trial year.

We were then asked to vote to STAY in or leave.

How could we now have expected our old markets to give us the same conditions if we now [after one year of telling them to 'p*** off and find another buyer for their produce.]wanted to trade again.

Many ,like me, did not bother to vote to stay but would have rushed to say no to JOINING.

We have now meekly given all of our power of government to faceless gnomes in Brussells..

How can 50% of British people want this to continue?

You are right about Heath,he told us we were joining a Common market,before he died he admitted on a BBC program that he

lied to the British people that he always planned the EU that we have today and a Federal one.

People wanting to exit are living in the past.

And not everything was better then, and the glory days of the HK are gone, never to return.

They're much, much better of in the EU and also the EU is much better of with GB in.

So we should stay in a corrupt organisation that has not even audited it's accounts for 20 yrs. governed by non elected bureaucrats who govern to their wishes and not the people's, continue to relinquish control of who to allow into the UK,need I go on.

By the way steveni, where do you come from?

Certainly not the UK anyway, What does StevenL know about the UK? Nothing, going by such nonsensical comments.

Jeez, so typically ignorant as in its just so obvious how could anyone.possibly see things differently from me.

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Here we go again another keyboard warrior hiding behind his keyboard. I am from the UK, so I know what goes on there unlike your

friend who obviously is not.

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Edited December 20, 201510 yr by nontabury

The Tories, who swept to victory in the election, are in favour of Britain staying in. They will engineer the very best case to convince the houseowners and conservatives with a small c, if indeed they need any convincing,that it is in their best interests to stay in and the timing will be the very best for that eventuality. The election result, when so many pundits called it much closer, is a key indicator of the conservatism in the United Kingdom. Despite the rhetoric of the left, the public do not wish much change. For those who think it is a fifty fifty call I beg to differ. Look at the betting markets. Betfair are trading at 1.59 stay in 2.66 out or around 4-7 to 7-4. In my opinion a bet on remaining in at well over 50% of your stake, even if the referendum is several years away, is a very sound investment indeed. They will stay in just as Scotland stayed in the UK. Britain's conservatism and the Conservative party will see to that.

Pretty sound assessment, just like to add the conservatives APPEAR to do all things that earn a pound well, just a shame they are piss poor for bottom end of social scale. However if your sole concern is the economics of the situation if they are saying 'stay in' than rest assured financially ultimately it'll be a reasoned decision

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Edited December 20, 201510 yr by rijit

My hypothetical "out" vote here cannot be replicated in practice as I'm no longer registered to vote. Although I think the UK would suffer in the short term (as the remainder of the EU turns it's back on us, and would introduce punitive trading barriers), the longer term would bring significant successes & improvements - providing of course that the UK stands up to many of the social failings (excessive immigration & benefits, etc.)

Don't worry about any punitive trading Barriers being constructed by the EU, as I've already stated the EU gains far more from trading with the UK than vice versa. There is no chance of the EU cutting it's own throat to spite the UK.

What will happen is that the UK will independently make trade deals with other countries to the benefit of the U.K. Economy.

People wanting to exit are living in the past.

And not everything was better then, and the glory days of the HK are gone, never to return.

They're much, much better of in the EU and also the EU is much better of with GB in.

So we should stay in a corrupt organisation that has not even audited it's accounts for 20 yrs. governed by non elected bureaucrats who govern to their wishes and not the people's, continue to relinquish control of who to allow into the UK,need I go on.

By the way steveni, where do you come from?

Certainly not the UK anyway, What does StevenL know about the UK? Nothing, going by such nonsensical comments.

Jeez, so typically ignorant as in its just so obvious how could anyone.possibly see things differently from me.

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Here we go again another keyboard warrior hiding behind his keyboard. I am from the UK, so I know what goes on there unlike your

friend who obviously is not.

Why don't you control your emotions and try to accept others may have an opinion different from yours, and get back on topic.

Please stop baiting other people. No one is obligated to state their nationality. It is not relevant to posting your opinion.