Koh Tao: Suspects found guilty of murdering British backpackers

[AleG]

Your logic depends on the presupposition that Nomsod was guilty, therefore you take any amount of time between the crime and him contacting the police as him being in hiding; then you use that amount of time as evidence that his behaviour was suspicious but since you started with the presumption of guilt it all adds up to circular reasoning. Ergo, flawed logic.

Q.E.Doh

Errr.....no AleG. The debate was a micro-debate about the amount of time it took for Nomsod to come forward, not an overview of the case. You claimed it was two days, but it was ten. The murder happened virtually in his back yard, but not a peep from him.Even his girlfriend couldn't get hold of him for a while

He was very active in the CSI-LA forum, that's why they ended up naming him as the "Running Man" when they became annoyed with him defending his uncle against their speculation and theories; you know, like you guys do here with anyone that doesn't buy your narrative, that recurring theme of "if it's not one of us, it must be one of them".

[Eirene]

"Police spokesman Dechnarong Suticharnbancha said he’s aware of the attack and has ordered the Technology Crime Suppression Division to track down the perpetrators.

“Even if the source of attack was from abroad, they will be convicted eventually,” said Police Gen. Dechnarong. “It’s not a problem.Thai police are excellent.”

Oh My!!

“Do we have much chance of tracking the source,” he asked. “And with lots of technological progress to conceal identity, how can we be sure the IP address we received refers to the right person?”

I wonder if they will find that it traces back to an ip in Koh Tao.

Anonymous Hacks Police Sites to Campaign for ‘Justice’ in Koh Tao Murders

BANGKOK — Hacker collective group Anonymous last night claimed responsibility for taking down at least 14 police websites in Thailand, in a campaign for “justice” for the Koh Tao murder case.

The affected websites include those of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau, the General Staff Division of Royal Thai Police and regional police stations. The sites appeared to be taken down on Monday and some of them are not yet back online at the time of writing.

The attack followed an announcement posted by Anonymous on Sunday, claiming that police used the two Myanmar migrant workers as ‘scapegoats’ in the murders of two British backpackers on Tao island murder in September 2014. The hacker group said the case highlighted the Thai police’s lack of skill and efficiency to investigate serious crimes.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1451976348

[AleG]

I'm open to anything that can be substantiated with credible evidence, evidence that other people were involved in the murders: 0

Evidence that Wei Phyo and Zaw Lin murdered those two people: enough to reach a guilty verdict as explained in the court report.

So we agree. Mon and Nomsod were caught on CCTV at the scene of the crime and were said to be "definitely implicated", right?

So we can agree that there is credible evidence that they and the B2 committed the crime together, right?

So you are open to the possibility that they were all involved in the crime together?

Yes yes, that's all that's left, misrepresenting everything as to mean what you want to believe.

Let me know when you are ready to come down to reality.

[smedly]

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KOH TAO MURDERS: The outcome of the trial was a terrible setback 4 Zaw Lin & Wai Phyo. UNEXPLAINED DEFENCE EVIDENCE

That pretty much supports the thoughts of most people here, I notice that certain people didn't have much to say on Ian Yarwoods comments, of course he is a practising Solicitor, maybe it should have been him in the stand for the defence

[AleG]

I'm open to anything that can be substantiated with credible evidence, evidence that other people were involved in the murders: 0

Evidence that Wei Phyo and Zaw Lin murdered those two people: enough to reach a guilty verdict as explained in the court report.

Blond hair

Dna on the right shoe

Dna on the murder weapon

Police statement Oct 29 2014

"If the DNA results turn out to match with the samples taken from the crime scene, Mr Warot will become an accomplice. If the DNA doesn't match, then society must give justice to Mr Warot's family too," the national police chief said - See more at: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-koh-tao-murder-suspects-offered-2nd-dna-tests-49403.php#sthash.NBZ7xOUh.dpuf

On one hand wishful thinking that those things would produce a match with Nomsod, even though he was proven not to be on the island at that time... on the other hand evidence that was subjected to scrutiny during a trial that has proven the B2 did it.

Tough choice.

Seriously, it's nice down here on Earth. A bit complicated some times but we get by just fine.

[KunMatt]

I'm open to anything that can be substantiated with credible evidence, evidence that other people were involved in the murders: 0

Evidence that Wei Phyo and Zaw Lin murdered those two people: enough to reach a guilty verdict as explained in the court report.

So we agree. Mon and Nomsod were caught on CCTV at the scene of the crime and were said to be "definitely implicated", right?

So we can agree that there is credible evidence that they and the B2 committed the crime together, right?

So you are open to the possibility that they were all involved in the crime together?

Yes yes, that's all that's left, misrepresenting everything as to mean what you want to believe.

Let me know when you are ready to come down to reality.

Haha, you cannot answer it because you are not allowed to.

Again you are exposed for what you really are.

Have a nice day.

Edited January 5, 2016 by KunMatt

[phuketandsee]

Have the Court released the full transcripts of the trial yet?

And if not, are they going to?

Transcripts? Surely you jest.

[smedly]

"the CCTV shows that it was the owner of the Bar that Hannah and David had just been at, the boss of the B2"

You talk as if you have seen said footage, you haven't. You accept the say so of the police as the inerrant truth for this six words "definitely implicated them in the crime" and dismiss it as a pack of lies for any and every other instance that doesn't fit your preferred narrative; even when shown that just a few days previously they erred in the same way, naming a person as being the murderer and backtracking by the next day.

I presented a chain of events, people on CSI-LA decided that Nomsod is the man on the footage then police announce they think they are the men on the footage, police backtrack the accusation and blame it squarely on Social Media speculation. The three events are concordant, your rebuttal is nothing but empty speculation.

After all your bluster you avoided the one question that I put to you:

I'm open to the scenario that the B2 were present with several members of the AC Bar and were witnesses or complicit in the crime. Are you?

I'm open to anything that can be substantiated with credible evidence, evidence that other people were involved in the murders: 0

Evidence that Wei Phyo and Zaw Lin murdered those two people: enough to reach a guilty verdict as explained in the court report.

So we agree. Mon and Nomsod were caught on CCTV at the scene of the crime and were said to be "definitely implicated", right?

So we can agree that there is credible evidence that they and the B2 committed the crime together, right?

So you are open to the possibility that they were all involved in the crime together?

it would be wrong to assume that all cctv footage was released into the public domain, in fact we are only aware of about 40secs worth from the whole morning taken from various cameras, the rest was concealed from both the public and the defence - go figure, if police viewed all cctv footage from that morning then the defence should also have been given access to it - all of it

[rockingrobin]

Your logic depends on the presupposition that Nomsod was guilty, therefore you take any amount of time between the crime and him contacting the police as him being in hiding; then you use that amount of time as evidence that his behaviour was suspicious but since you started with the presumption of guilt it all adds up to circular reasoning. Ergo, flawed logic.

Q.E.Doh

Errr.....no AleG. The debate was a micro-debate about the amount of time it took for Nomsod to come forward, not an overview of the case. You claimed it was two days, but it was ten. The murder happened virtually in his back yard, but not a peep from him.Even his girlfriend couldn't get hold of him for a while

He was very active in the CSI-LA forum, that's why they ended up naming him as the "Running Man" when they became annoyed with him defending his uncle against their speculation and theories; you know, like you guys do here with anyone that doesn't buy your narrative, that recurring theme of "if it's not one of us, it must be one of them".

The RTP did not investigate rumours ,

[AleG]

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KOH TAO MURDERS: The outcome of the trial was a terrible setback 4 Zaw Lin & Wai Phyo. UNEXPLAINED DEFENCE EVIDENCE

That pretty much supports the thoughts of most people here, I notice that certain people didn't have much to say on Ian Yarwoods comments, of course he is a practising Solicitor, maybe it should have been him in the stand for the defence

Ah yes, the supposed scrappy DNA summary, handwritten and crossed out documents that prove what a sham it all was. Why they didn't even follow the ISO17035 standard!

Well, what does that standard say?

"4.13.2.3 When mistakes occur in records, each mistake shall be crossed out, not erased, made illegible or deleted, and the correct value entered alongside."

[AleG]

So we agree. Mon and Nomsod were caught on CCTV at the scene of the crime and were said to be "definitely implicated", right?

So we can agree that there is credible evidence that they and the B2 committed the crime together, right?

So you are open to the possibility that they were all involved in the crime together?

it would be wrong to assume that all cctv footage was released into the public domain, in fact we are only aware of about 40secs worth from the whole morning taken from various cameras, the rest was concealed from both the public and the defence - go figure, if police viewed all cctv footage from that morning then the defence should also have been given access to it - all of it

Was the defense locked out of the room on the day over 12 hours of CCTV footage were presented in court by the prosecution?

Again you are talking about things you don't know; I bet the Miller family knew about it though.

Edited January 5, 2016 by AleG

[MrTee]

So we agree. Mon and Nomsod were caught on CCTV at the scene of the crime and were said to be "definitely implicated", right?

So we can agree that there is credible evidence that they and the B2 committed the crime together, right?

So you are open to the possibility that they were all involved in the crime together?

it would be wrong to assume that all cctv footage was released into the public domain, in fact we are only aware of about 40secs worth from the whole morning taken from various cameras, the rest was concealed from both the public and the defence - go figure, if police viewed all cctv footage from that morning then the defence should also have been given access to it - all of it

Was the defense locked out of the room on the day over 12 hours of CCTV footage were presented in court by the prosecution?

Again you are talking about things you don't know; I bet the Miller family knew about it though.

12 hours of CCTV footage? or 12 hours discussing CCTV footage? I heard the latter..

[rockingrobin]

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KOH TAO MURDERS: The outcome of the trial was a terrible setback 4 Zaw Lin & Wai Phyo. UNEXPLAINED DEFENCE EVIDENCE

That pretty much supports the thoughts of most people here, I notice that certain people didn't have much to say on Ian Yarwoods comments, of course he is a practising Solicitor, maybe it should have been him in the stand for the defence

Ah yes, the supposed scrappy DNA summary, handwritten and crossed out documents that prove what a sham it all was. Why they didn't even follow the ISO17035 standard!

Well, what does that standard say?

"4.13.2.3 When mistakes occur in records, each mistake shall be crossed out, not erased, made illegible or deleted, and the correct value entered alongside."

4.11.2 Cause analysis The procedure for corrective action shall start with an investigation to determine the root cause(s) of the problem. NOTE Cause analysis is the key and sometimes the most difficult part in the corrective action procedure. Often the root cause is not obvious and thus a careful analysis of all potential causes of the problem is required. Potential causes could include customer requirements, the samples, sample specifications, methods and procedures, staff skills and training, consumables, or equipment and its calibration. 4.11.3 Selection and implementation of corrective actions Where corrective action is needed, the laboratory shall identify potential corrective actions. It shall select and implement the action(s) most likely to eliminate the problem and to prevent recurrence. Corrective actions shall be to a degree appropriate to the magnitude and the risk of the problem. The laboratory shall document and implement any required changes resulting from corrective action investigations

[AGareth2]

lol

corrections?

who is to say they aren't falsifications?

[boomerangutang]

Your logic depends on the presupposition that Nomsod was guilty, therefore you take any amount of time between the crime and him contacting the police as him being in hiding; then you use that amount of time as evidence that his behaviour was suspicious but since you started with the presumption of guilt it all adds up to circular reasoning. Ergo, flawed logic.

Q.E.Doh

Errr.....no AleG. The debate was a micro-debate about the amount of time it took for Nomsod to come forward, not an overview of the case. You claimed it was two days, but it was ten. The murder happened virtually in his back yard, but not a peep from him.Even his girlfriend couldn't get hold of him for a while

He was very active in the CSI-LA forum, that's why they ended up naming him as the "Running Man" when they became annoyed with him defending his uncle against their speculation and theories; you know, like you guys do here with anyone that doesn't buy your narrative, that recurring theme of "if it's not one of us, it must be one of them".

The initial investigative team, me, and hundreds of thousands of concerned observers see the striking resemblance of Nomsod and the person shown in the 'Running Man videos.' I know that bothers AleG to no end, and am also sure that Mon is mighty annoyed that he didn't find and trash that video in the first hours after the crime. Mon was able to stifle many things, including CCTV from his bar, but darn, that pesky Running Man video somehow got out of the bag. No worries Mon and AleG, as the investigative team was changing heads, both Nomsod and Mon went from being prime suspects to becoming permanently excused. So don't worry. Nomsod is perpetually free from inquiry. And the statute of limitations for murder in Thailand is 20 years, so those guys are already 7% there.

Thailand's top cop, based in Bangkok, put himself in charge, and Panya was given a promotion, a desk job and told to keep his mouth shut about the case forever. He's a good boy, and did what he was told. The new head investigator already got Mon and Nomsod permanently excused, and (surprise!) found scapegoats who were poor and powerless. Well, actually one of the scapegoats, MM, wasn't as clueless as the other two. He probably asked for a lawyer to be present. Anyhow, he wasn't as pliable as the other two, so he was let go (even tho he shows up on CCTV several times that night). Interesting that even the RTP claim there had to be more that two perps, to overtake a big guy like David. The self-replacement head investigator, after arranging things to please the headman (and headman's people), then miraculously was able to purchase $12 million in stocks at Wattana Capital investment firm. We don't know whether the headman moved large amounts of money, because no Thai can look into that. Off limits, as is Nok Air flight manifest, phone records, CCTV from the bars, boat drivers from KT, and many other items which could shed light on who's responsible for the murders.

[boomerangutang]

So we agree. Mon and Nomsod were caught on CCTV at the scene of the crime and were said to be "definitely implicated", right?

So we can agree that there is credible evidence that they and the B2 committed the crime together, right?

So you are open to the possibility that they were all involved in the crime together?

it would be wrong to assume that all cctv footage was released into the public domain, in fact we are only aware of about 40secs worth from the whole morning taken from various cameras, the rest was concealed from both the public and the defence - go figure, if police viewed all cctv footage from that morning then the defence should also have been given access to it - all of it

Was the defense locked out of the room on the day over 12 hours of CCTV footage were presented in court by the prosecution?

Again you are talking about things you don't know; I bet the Miller family knew about it though.

12 hours of CCTV footage? or 12 hours discussing CCTV footage? I heard the latter..

One cop in the investigative team (if they even deserve such a title), claimed there was 60 hours of CCTV from that night. He claims they looked at it, and the only bits worthy of showing to the public was what we've seen (about 2 minutes). If a person believes the police had a thick agenda (to shield the Headman's people) as I do, then it doesn't take much brain power to imagine that some of those 60 hours of CCTV footage could have incriminated people the police are required to shield. So, what would the cops do with such footage? Well, if they hid it without destroying it, then it might come back and haunt them. So, most likely they simply destroyed it. If that's proven to have happened, then it could have legal consequences (destroying evidence) - but only in a real court like one in Europe or N.America - not a court in Thailand.

And then there's footage which may have been very useful but, COPS DIDN'T EVEN VIEW !!! because they deemed it was unimportant. I'm referring to one or more boats leaving the island soon after the crime (which cops admit to not viewing), but there may be other footage which fits in that category. Of course the cops could be lying, which they so often do. They probably saw the boat footage and realized it was incriminating to the people they're sworn to shield. In court, the translation said the cop has the footage, but I think it was badly translated. The correct verb is probably HAD, not HAS. It's certain that the footage is missing or destroyed, as are so many other items (clothes, hair, DNA samples, etc) which could be useful in finding who really did the crime.

Edited January 5, 2016 by boomerangutang

[kcirtapyelrah]

Your logic depends on the presupposition that Nomsod was guilty, therefore you take any amount of time between the crime and him contacting the police as him being in hiding; then you use that amount of time as evidence that his behaviour was suspicious but since you started with the presumption of guilt it all adds up to circular reasoning. Ergo, flawed logic.

Q.E.Doh

Errr.....no AleG. The debate was a micro-debate about the amount of time it took for Nomsod to come forward, not an overview of the case. You claimed it was two days, but it was ten. The murder happened virtually in his back yard, but not a peep from him.Even his girlfriend couldn't get hold of him for a while

He was very active in the CSI-LA forum, that's why they ended up naming him as the "Running Man" when they became annoyed with him defending his uncle against their speculation and theories; you know, like you guys do here with anyone that doesn't buy your narrative, that recurring theme of "if it's not one of us, it must be one of them".

The initial investigative team, me, and hundreds of thousands of concerned observers see the striking resemblance of Nomsod and the person shown in the 'Running Man videos.' I know that bothers AleG to no end, and am also sure that Mon is mighty annoyed that he didn't find and trash that video in the first hours after the crime. Mon was able to stifle many things, including CCTV from his bar, but darn, that pesky Running Man video somehow got out of the bag. No worries Mon and AleG, as the investigative team was changing heads, both Nomsod and Mon went from being prime suspects to becoming permanently excused. So don't worry. Nomsod is perpetually free from inquiry. And the statute of limitations for murder in Thailand is 20 years, so those guys are already 7% there.

Thailand's top cop, based in Bangkok, put himself in charge, and Panya was given a promotion, a desk job and told to keep his mouth shut about the case forever. He's a good boy, and did what he was told. The new head investigator already got Mon and Nomsod permanently excused, and (surprise!) found scapegoats who were poor and powerless. Well, actually one of the scapegoats, MM, wasn't as clueless as the other two. He probably asked for a lawyer to be present. Anyhow, he wasn't as pliable as the other two, so he was let go (even tho he shows up on CCTV several times that night). Interesting that even the RTP claim there had to be more that two perps, to overtake a big guy like David. The self-replacement head investigator, after arranging things to please the headman (and headman's people), then miraculously was able to purchase $12 million in stocks at Wattana Capital investment firm. We don't know whether the headman moved large amounts of money, because no Thai can look into that. Off limits, as is Nok Air flight manifest, phone records, CCTV from the bars, boat drivers from KT, and many other items which could shed light on who's responsible for the murders.

How can anyone disagree with that? sick comes to mind!

[mrrizzla]

The CCTV thing really bugs me.

I have been to Koh Tao and that stretch of Sariee is long and narrow with many shops/bars/resorts flanking both sides of a narrow path. There must be ample amounts of CCTV a long the route. And it was known that David and Hannah were in AC Bar that night.

Now instead of the village headman goading people into trying to prove his families guilt and offering rewards for doing so, why doesn't he completely exonerate his family by releasing CCTV of that night? If there was no Nomsod there, no scuffle (which is alleged to have happened when Hannah rejected certain people advances) and it would go a long, long way quelling some of the massive suspicion surrounding him and his family. Who have by the way, boasted and mocked the killings with fake hoes on social media. And by the way was the running man ever identified in court?

The farce of a DNA test of Nomsod proves nothing, look at how the DNA in the court. It was clear by then that the money trail had gone all the way to the top. Any of them hang em high brigade shouting conspiracy cannot deny the amount of outright corruption that exists in all government agencies, not just the cops.

60 hours of CCTV footage, you would think if anything that there would be MORE that the cops could use to incriminate the B2 with the amount of coverage that island has. Yet strangely it hasn't come to surface.

I hope the protests keep going and this case is still in the limelight right throughout the appeals process. Perhaps, one day, with perseverance the truth will come out. Or perhaps it'll take another set of murders on that island for real action to be taken.

[smedly]

it would be wrong to assume that all cctv footage was released into the public domain, in fact we are only aware of about 40secs worth from the whole morning taken from various cameras, the rest was concealed from both the public and the defence - go figure, if police viewed all cctv footage from that morning then the defence should also have been given access to it - all of it

Was the defense locked out of the room on the day over 12 hours of CCTV footage were presented in court by the prosecution?

Again you are talking about things you don't know; I bet the Miller family knew about it though.

12 hours of CCTV footage? or 12 hours discussing CCTV footage? I heard the latter..

One cop in the investigative team (if they even deserve such a title), claimed there was 60 hours of CCTV from that night. He claims they looked at it, and the only bits worthy of showing to the public was what we've seen (about 2 minutes). If a person believes the police had a thick agenda (to shield the Headman's people) as I do, then it doesn't take much brain power to imagine that some of those 60 hours of CCTV footage could have incriminated people the police are required to shield. So, what would the cops do with such footage? Well, if they hid it without destroying it, then it might come back and haunt them. So, most likely they simply destroyed it. If that's proven to have happened, then it could have legal consequences (destroying evidence) - but only in a real court like one in Europe or N.America - not a court in Thailand.

And then there's footage which may have been very useful but, COPS DIDN'T EVEN VIEW !!! because they deemed it was unimportant. I'm referring to one or more boats leaving the island soon after the crime (which cops admit to not viewing), but there may be other footage which fits in that category. Of course the cops could be lying, which they so often do. They probably saw the boat footage and realized it was incriminating to the people they're sworn to shield. In court, the translation said the cop has the footage, but I think it was badly translated. The correct verb is probably HAD, not HAS. It's certain that the footage is missing or destroyed, as are so many other items (clothes, hair, DNA samples, etc) which could be useful in finding who really did the crime.

and while we are on the subject of cctv, another very very important piece that again is missing, it was reported that B2 had a motorbike with them at the beach, this motorbike was also seen earlier with B3 onboard, the police claimed that B2 rode the motorbike when they left the beach which means they must have rode it on the street with all the cctv cameras - this would have confirmed -

1. What time they left the beach

2. What they were wearing

Was this cctv material ever revealed

[mrrizzla]

and while we are on the subject of cctv, another very very important piece that again is missing, it was reported that B2 had a motorbike with them at the beach, this motorbike was also seen earlier with B3 onboard, the police claimed that B2 rode the motorbike when they left the beach which means they must have rode it on the street with all the cctv cameras - this would have confirmed -

1. What time they left the beach

2. What they were wearing

Was this cctv material ever revealed

I personally think the CCTV from that night reveals A LOT and the running man footage was released before certain people were yet to receive brown envelopes and prices were being negotiated.

After all that was cleared up it suddenly become irrelevant

[Luang]

Besides the ping pong of claims and counter claims on here, what puzzles me is why the Burmese are continuing with the same defense (assuming it is, and I may be wrong with that). Sounds like they failed big style first time around, why are they getting another shot at failure? if I were the defendants I wouldn't want a single Thai near my defense team.

Anyone with any insight on the choice of the lawyers? Do they have to have thai lawyers involved at all?

Edited January 5, 2016 by Luang

[lkv]

now you are being just a little bit silly, how about there was no sperm at all, since we have no physical evidence of it, the police thus far have not produced it.

So if the police did not produce that DNA evidence, did I misunderstand that they were also convicted on the charge of rape, and if so, on what basis?

It's certain that the footage is missing or destroyed, as are so many other items (clothes, hair, DNA samples, etc) which could be useful in finding who really did the crime.

I would not be surprised if they kept some of it. Why would they destroy something that has the potential to provide further revenue? I mean, if I was rogue law enforcement, I would milk them endlessly, as the case went along. The more attention it attracted (like now), the more money I would ask them for.

Don't forget, in Thailand asking for more money is a never ending story.

[Khun Han]

I'm open to anything that can be substantiated with credible evidence, evidence that other people were involved in the murders: 0

Evidence that Wei Phyo and Zaw Lin murdered those two people: enough to reach a guilty verdict as explained in the court report.

Blond hair

Dna on the right shoe

Dna on the murder weapon

Police statement Oct 29 2014

"If the DNA results turn out to match with the samples taken from the crime scene, Mr Warot will become an accomplice. If the DNA doesn't match, then society must give justice to Mr Warot's family too," the national police chief said - See more at: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-koh-tao-murder-suspects-offered-2nd-dna-tests-49403.php#sthash.NBZ7xOUh.dpuf

On one hand wishful thinking that those things would produce a match with Nomsod, even though he was proven not to be on the island at that time... on the other hand evidence that was subjected to scrutiny during a trial that has proven the B2 did it.

Tough choice.

Seriously, it's nice down here on Earth. A bit complicated some times but we get by just fine.

Meanwhile, down on the Planet Earth that I inhabit, on the one hand we have a Thai judiciary that has been repeatedly found wanting over the years, and a Thai police force that is proven to be corrupt and has repeadly been proven to use scapegoats to 'solve' crimes. On the other hand we have a whole raft of international experts and investigative journalists who are deeply suspicious of the evidence and verdict in this case. Now.....which side would a westerner educated to a high standard in logical, analytical thought tend to lean toward? Hmmm.....tough call, isn't it. Get back to me when you've worked it out (or worked out some mind-numbing prevarication).

[Khun Han]

Have the Court released the full transcripts of the trial yet?

And if not, are they going to?

Transcripts? Surely you jest.

"Sorry. Used up, krup."

[rockingrobin]

I'm open to anything that can be substantiated with credible evidence, evidence that other people were involved in the murders: 0

Evidence that Wei Phyo and Zaw Lin murdered those two people: enough to reach a guilty verdict as explained in the court report.

Blond hair

Dna on the right shoe

Dna on the murder weapon

Police statement Oct 29 2014

"If the DNA results turn out to match with the samples taken from the crime scene, Mr Warot will become an accomplice. If the DNA doesn't match, then society must give justice to Mr Warot's family too," the national police chief said - See more at: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-koh-tao-murder-suspects-offered-2nd-dna-tests-49403.php#sthash.NBZ7xOUh.dpuf

On one hand wishful thinking that those things would produce a match with Nomsod, even though he was proven not to be on the island at that time... on the other hand evidence that was subjected to scrutiny during a trial that has proven the B2 did it.

Tough choice.

Seriously, it's nice down here on Earth. A bit complicated some times but we get by just fine.

To requote what you posted

"I'm open to anything that can be substantiated with credible evidence, evidence that other people were involved in the murders: 0 "

I take it from your response that you are not open to any other evidence

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StealthEnergiser, on 05 Jan 2016 - 09:57, said:

Anonymous Hacks Police Sites to Campaign for ‘Justice’ in Koh Tao Murders

BANGKOK — Hacker collective group Anonymous last night claimed responsibility for taking down at least 14 police websites in Thailand, in a campaign for “justice” for the Koh Tao murder case.

The affected websites include those of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau, the General Staff Division of Royal Thai Police and regional police stations. The sites appeared to be taken down on Monday and some of them are not yet back online at the time of writing.

The attack followed an announcement posted by Anonymous on Sunday, claiming that police used the two Myanmar migrant workers as ‘scapegoats’ in the murders of two British backpackers on Tao island murder in September 2014. The hacker group said the case highlighted the Thai police’s lack of skill and efficiency to investigate serious crimes.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1451976348

Oh deary me. Well, if Anonymous can take down the websites of ISIS/Daesh, I guess they can do anything . The story's in the BKK Post now.

[tomacht8]

that a page is hacked can happen.
Interesting is the statement Link

[KunMatt]

StealthEnergiser, on 05 Jan 2016 - 09:57, said:

Anonymous Hacks Police Sites to Campaign for ‘Justice’ in Koh Tao Murders

BANGKOK — Hacker collective group Anonymous last night claimed responsibility for taking down at least 14 police websites in Thailand, in a campaign for “justice” for the Koh Tao murder case.

The affected websites include those of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau, the General Staff Division of Royal Thai Police and regional police stations. The sites appeared to be taken down on Monday and some of them are not yet back online at the time of writing.

The attack followed an announcement posted by Anonymous on Sunday, claiming that police used the two Myanmar migrant workers as ‘scapegoats’ in the murders of two British backpackers on Tao island murder in September 2014. The hacker group said the case highlighted the Thai police’s lack of skill and efficiency to investigate serious crimes.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1451976348

Oh deary me. Well, if Anonymous can take down the websites of ISIS/Daesh, I guess they can do anything . The story's in the BKK Post now.

Fantastic. It's also on the BBC news. It's very good that this is not just going to disappear and international attention is still on the corruption of the case.

Good old Anonymous, I forgive them for taking Playstion Network offline for a month in 2011 now.

[Luang]

StealthEnergiser, on 05 Jan 2016 - 09:57, said:

Anonymous Hacks Police Sites to Campaign for ‘Justice’ in Koh Tao Murders

BANGKOK — Hacker collective group Anonymous last night claimed responsibility for taking down at least 14 police websites in Thailand, in a campaign for “justice” for the Koh Tao murder case.

The affected websites include those of the Bangkok Metropolitan Police Bureau, the General Staff Division of Royal Thai Police and regional police stations. The sites appeared to be taken down on Monday and some of them are not yet back online at the time of writing.

The attack followed an announcement posted by Anonymous on Sunday, claiming that police used the two Myanmar migrant workers as ‘scapegoats’ in the murders of two British backpackers on Tao island murder in September 2014. The hacker group said the case highlighted the Thai police’s lack of skill and efficiency to investigate serious crimes.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1451976348

Oh deary me. Well, if Anonymous can take down the websites of ISIS/Daesh, I guess they can do anything . The story's in the BKK Post now.

Good for them! Now get on to the British FCO (Hugo Swire) and ask them a few questions re. why they are comfortable with all this. I won't say 'complicit' or I might land in trouble

Edited January 5, 2016 by Luang