webfact Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 No white paper to be published on Ratchapakdi Park investigationBANGKOK, 4 January 2016 (NNT) - The Ministry of Defense has said there is no need to produce a white paper on the investigation into Ratchapakdi Park, because an investigative panel has already produced a report on the matter.Permanent Secretary of Defense Gen Preecha Chan-o-cha explained that once the panel announces the results of the investigation, the distribution of a white paper or an authoritative report will be redundant.Gen Preecha added that the Office of the Auditor General of Thailand is responsible for conducting a parallel investigation into the park, so there is no need to forward the panel's report to them. He said that the investigation is not intended to lay blame, but to assure Defense Minister Gen Udomdej Sitabutr of the project's fair practices.Deputy Permanent Secretary of Defense Gen Chaichan Changmongkol said the ministry has already received the panel's report, and welcomes any other organization with legal jurisdiction to review their findings.-- NNT 2016-01-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 He said that the investigation is not intended to lay blame, but to assure Defense Minister Gen Udomdej Sitabutr of the project's fair practices. That pretty much says it all. It WAS a whitewash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) We were caught with our pants down. The little and medium fish were given a heads up and fled the country, the big fish have already been cleared because they are 'good people'. We are now white washing this and sweeping it under the carpet, and if you dare to question this you get arrested. But Thaksin etc. Edited January 4, 2016 by mrrizzla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let's put a fine point on this. Finding and reducing corruption is not a priority for the military. Those poor souls who thought otherwise should recalibrate in the face of clear evidence. The alternate explanation is that the bogeyman in Dubai has orchestrated the whole mess, aided and abetted by foreign powers. Yep, that must be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let's put a fine point on this. Finding and reducing corruption is not a priority for the military. Those poor souls who thought otherwise should recalibrate in the face of clear evidence. The alternate explanation is that the bogeyman in Dubai has orchestrated the whole mess, aided and abetted by foreign powers. Yep, that must be it. It's a smear campaign ordered by the devil in Dubai. Just like the protests against the Koh Tao conviction in Burma... In actuality I think Thaksin is smart enough to know he doesn't really need to do anything really. His enemies are doing a fine job of discrediting themselves with no input from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let's put a fine point on this. Finding and reducing corruption is not a priority for the military. Those poor souls who thought otherwise should recalibrate in the face of clear evidence. The alternate explanation is that the bogeyman in Dubai has orchestrated the whole mess, aided and abetted by foreign powers. Yep, that must be it. It's a matter of National Regime Security, so it makes perfect sense to classify this investigation as Top Secret. Pick a color, any color, red, yellow, pink, blue, or magenta with lime polka dots, they are all crooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Lot of talk of Thaksin in many topics, is he still relevant? Yes I am aware the NCPO still responds to any news of him, so maybe he still is, if so why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 >> He said that the investigation is not intended to lay blame, but to assure Defense Minister Gen Udomdej Sitabutr of the project's fair practices.<< Quote So the intention was to assure the alleged thief, that everything was above the table............... Makes a lot of sense......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rest assured, that the report is exactly as Prem ordered it..................... Seriously there is no hope for Thailand !! Even the already extremely wealthy can't help themselves, when is comes to stealing and corruption !! Must be something in the DNA !! What a surprise to see Prayuths brother heading the "investigation"............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So now when "the brother" gets mentioned it does'nt necessarily refer to the Shinawatra 'clan' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Seriously there is no hope for Thailand !! Even the already extremely wealthy can't help themselves, when is comes to stealing and corruption !! Must be something in the DNA !! What a surprise to see Prayuths brother heading the "investigation"............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Transparency these days looks remarkably similar to something that is very opaque. Edited January 4, 2016 by oneday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seastallion Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 He said that the investigation is not intended to lay blame, but to assure Defense Minister Gen Udomdej Sitabutr of the project's fair practices. That pretty much says it all. It WAS a whitewash. Yep. " He said that the investigation is not intended to lay blame, but to assure Defense Minister Gen Udomdej Sitabutr of the project's fair practices." The investigation was made ONLY because of outside pressures, and had the intention all along to NOT find any fault. A waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 No white paper required as the brown paper contents have already been distributed and accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 No need for a white paper when the instructions to the investigative panel were to perform a white wash. After the spin cycle, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 So now when "the brother" gets mentioned it does'nt necessarily refer to the Shinawatra 'clan' Not Brother Number Two, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 bad move, they should put it all out in the open if they have nothing to hide, this simply makes them look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 bad move, they should put it all out in the open if they have nothing to hide, this simply makes them look bad. "...if they have nothing to hide..." Well, that's the crux of the matter, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The result of the investigation will be that it was all a misunderstanding. Key words:- '' He said that the investigation is not intended to lay blame ''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 No white paper to be published on Ratchapakdi Park investigation Just whitewash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldiablo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Is anyone here really surprised by this? I think we all knew this is how it would turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Lot of talk of Thaksin in many topics, is he still relevant? Yes I am aware the NCPO still responds to any news of him, so maybe he still is, if so why? Just a convenient bogeyman for the junta and it's fanboys to blame for all it's cock-ups. If it wasn't him it'd be some other ex ELECTED official. It's a way of trying to discredit true democracy and replace it with their version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 it is amazing to me how these dolts come out and admit their own dishonesty and how they do that on a regular basis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) They mean this "investigation"?http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/882768-no-irregularities-found-in-fund-spending-on-rajabhakti-park/Where you can read sentences like:"The committee did not have the legal authority to investigate alleged irregularities. Such power was with other agencies authorised by the law to investigate corruption, he said.""Concerning the casting of the statues of the past kings by foundries, the committee did not have the authority to summonse their owners for interviews about the alleged demands of kick-backs.""Some of them refused to give information and some were not available to cooperate, Gen Chaichan said.""He said the committee did not have the authority to point out what was right or what was wrong." Edited January 4, 2016 by tomacht8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrizzla Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 They mean this "investigation"? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/882768-no-irregularities-found-in-fund-spending-on-rajabhakti-park/ Where you can read sentences like: "The committee did not have the legal authority to investigate alleged irregularities. Such power was with other agencies authorised by the law to investigate corruption, he said." "Concerning the casting of the statues of the past kings by foundries, the committee did not have the authority to summonse their owners for interviews about the alleged demands of kick-backs." "Some of them refused to give information and some were not available to cooperate, Gen Chaichan said." "He said the committee did not have the authority to point out what was right or what was wrong." You know what I find strange (fingers crossed behind my back) That wasn't article 44 implemented for JUST this kind of situation? You know, it cuts through all the red tape. Why didn't the PM allow its use in this case and show that no one is safe from his 'anti corruption' pledge, even those in the army? I guess those poor people encroaching on a bit of land deserve it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadGeordie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 My opinion in respect of this debacle is very, very simple..... Article 44, Article 112...not knowing them all, computer crime, sedition, abuse to a dog, eating with mouth open, breathing whilst being poor. Etc,etc,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegee Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 They mean this "investigation"? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/882768-no-irregularities-found-in-fund-spending-on-rajabhakti-park/ Where you can read sentences like: "The committee did not have the legal authority to investigate alleged irregularities. Such power was with other agencies authorised by the law to investigate corruption, he said." "Concerning the casting of the statues of the past kings by foundries, the committee did not have the authority to summonse their owners for interviews about the alleged demands of kick-backs." "Some of them refused to give information and some were not available to cooperate, Gen Chaichan said." "He said the committee did not have the authority to point out what was right or what was wrong." Someone should tell the junta to tell their mum they're on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 They mean this "investigation"? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/882768-no-irregularities-found-in-fund-spending-on-rajabhakti-park/ Where you can read sentences like: "The committee did not have the legal authority to investigate alleged irregularities. Such power was with other agencies authorised by the law to investigate corruption, he said." "Concerning the casting of the statues of the past kings by foundries, the committee did not have the authority to summonse their owners for interviews about the alleged demands of kick-backs." "Some of them refused to give information and some were not available to cooperate, Gen Chaichan said." "He said the committee did not have the authority to point out what was right or what was wrong." You know what I find strange (fingers crossed behind my back) That wasn't article 44 implemented for JUST this kind of situation? You know, it cuts through all the red tape. Why didn't the PM allow its use in this case and show that no one is safe from his 'anti corruption' pledge, even those in the army? I guess those poor people encroaching on a bit of land deserve it more. I can not understand that, too. Hey 300.000 Baht (what the amulet trader has allegedly siphoned off) are peanuts for the people staying on the top of the pyramid. Why they do not make a clear and transparent cut, I really do not understand that. And if there are a few low ranked people that have made there pockets full, why not show them the red card? The credibility depends often on small tiny things. They have set out to bring the country forward, and allow, that so little shit stuck on there shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Oooooooohhhhh reeeeaaaaallllyyy!!?? That's just completely unpredictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 Rajabhakti team mumThe NationBANGKOK: -- THE Defence Ministry panel looking into the Rajabhakti Park scandal says it has no plans to release its investigation results to the public.Nor will it submit the results to the Office of the Auditor-General (OAG), which is also investigating alleged corruption."We have checked all facts about the Rajabhakti Park project. It's not about nailing down culprits," the ministry's permanent secretary General Preecha Chan-o-cha said yesterday.He explained that his ministry had already provided all relevant information on the project, except identifying culprits. That would be the duty of other related agencies.The Defence Ministry set up the fact-finding panel late last year, after the park project became mired in corruption allegations. The park is located on land owned by the Army in Hua Hin.At the centre of the scandal is Deputy Defence Minister General Udomdej Sitabutr, who was Army chief when the park, which features giant statues of seven former Thai kings, was being built.Preecha said yesterday he personally believed that Udomdej had nothing to do with the corruption."But I am not sure about others who have taken part in the project," he said.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Rajabhakti-team-mum-30276125.html-- The Nation 2016-01-05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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